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1 edit | Re: Cue said by snipper_cr :Cue comment overflow Im not sure how this opperates but I suspect comcast will try some legislation to lobbying to get this overruled or waivers to be allowed... They'll just go to the courts. The FCC attempt to do this before was overturned. It most likely will be again. »money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/art···UNE5.htm
A similar ownership cap that the FCC attempted to impose on the cable industry six years ago was tossed out by the courts, which argued the agency didn't have the authority to cap the growth of companies it regulates. -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | lameness Politicians and hearing speakers are both stuttering and shitting bricks at each other at the meeting and don't know what to say.  | |
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| This guy's a jerk Who is he to determine how big a company can grow as long as its not a pure monopoly. Total government control bs here. I'm no fan of the cable industry at all but if they can grow and keep their customer base, then more power to them. Unbelieveable. Evertime this guys picture is on the front page here it's about something incredibly stupid coming out of his mouth. | |
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join:2003-06-13 Washington, DC | Redux Let's see. . . .
2001:
FCC: "We've imposing a 30% ownership cap!" D.C. Circuit: "No, actually."
2007 (market very much more competitive):
FCC: "We're imposing a 30% ownership cap!" D.C. Circuit: . . . | |
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join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | how can one get rid of Martin? Change in Presidency? | |
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join:2000-12-01 New York, NY | Re: how can one get rid of Martin? yes. Presidential appointee. | |
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1 edit | said by inteller :how can one get rid of Martin? Change in Presidency? That won't do it. An FCC commissioner can't be fired by the President. Martin got a NEW 5 yr term beginning on April 25, 2006. So he can be, if he wants to and doesn't resign to move on to elected office in North Carolina, an FCC commissioner until 2011. The FCC is an INDEPENDENT commission and is not under control of the President except by persuasion and promises of future political support. The president can appoint, but not fire, FCC commissioners. And there must be at least 2 and not more than 3 commissioners from each political party on the 5 member commission.
»www.fcc.gov/commissioners/ »www.fcc.gov/commissioners/martin/ -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page
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| Re: how can one get rid of Martin? Does anybody else see the resemblance between Martin:

And Waldo?

I swear each time I see Martin's picture I say:
"There's Waldo!"
[NG]Owner -- It is impossible to create an idiot-proof product. Humanity is simply too adept at churning out better idiots. | |
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| Martin defends media ownership rules ...
...saying newspapers can no longer stand alone and provide news not fed to them by newswire services. They need big multi-media resources to survive. On that 1 issue he makes a valid point, because the internet is rapidly killing off newspapers and their employees. »www.fcc.gov/kjm121807-ownership.pdf
Consumers have benefited from the explosion of new sources of news and information. But according to almost every measure newspapers are struggling. At least 300 daily papers have stopped publishing over the past thirty years. Their circulation is down and their advertising revenue is shrinking.
Newspapers in financial difficulty oftentimes have little choice but to scale back local news gathering to cut costs. In 2007 alone, 24 newsroom staff at The Boston Globe were fired, including 2 Pulitzer Prize-winning reporters; the Minneapolis Star Tribune fired 145 employees, including 50 from their newsroom; 20 were fired by the Rocky Mountain News; the Detroit Free Press and The Detroit News announced cuts totaling 110 employees; and the San Francisco Chronicle planned to cut 25% of its newsroom staff.
Allowing cross-ownership may help to forestall the erosion in local news coverage by enabling companies to share these local news gathering costs across multiple media platforms. -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page
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| Re: Martin defends media ownership rules ... this business model is what destroyed the entertainment business. by allowing Clear Channel to buy all the radio stations nation wide they then began to fire employees to cut costs and played the exact radio format in every city. it was a failure of epic proportions. they failed to take into account that every market is different, people have different tastes. essentially they destroyed radio. myspace, streaming, their success was in part a reaction by people who didn't want to hear what the bad content Clear Channel allowed them to hear. they sought out other sources of content.
this has already happened with allowing one company to own all the tv stations. I recall last year somewhere in the midwest there was a horrible storm and there was no more local rado or tv stations and they couldn't alert people to the problem. I live in a big city and the first section I read everyday is the city section to see what's going on. communities will suffer greatly without good local content. | |
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now that they can make more money online and other sources why even continue the newspaper
why not just buy out newspaper and discontinue it after all its not as profitable as the tv or other news sources and competes with our other services | |
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join:2000-06-20 Ottawa, ON | Re: Martin defends media ownership rules ... Does anyone under 30 actually read newspapers any more?  -- "I reject your reality and substitute my own." | |
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| Re: Martin defends media ownership rules ... said by hurleyp :Does anyone under 30 actually read newspapers any more? I do, when I to the local Burger King, as they usually have the daily Newsday there. | |
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join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR | Does Not Matter . . . Most news outlets use same sources anyway. Such as AP, Reuters, etc.
It is the news sources that need more competition and diversity of views.
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| Re: Does Not Matter . . . I agree. I don't have a problem with cross ownership of TV, radio, newspaper in a given market.
What worries me is when ONE COMPANY owns multiple newspapers, radio and TV stations in a given market.
What government policy should do is to encourage a diversity of ownership and views without worrying too much about how those view are communicated. What is troubling today is a hand full of media giants control what is deemed newsworthy and manages news organizations as entertainment rather then journalism.
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| What about the Sirius and XM merger He's hell bent on screwing Comcast and providing relief to the media markets to own a newspaper but they cant seem to come to a decision on the piddly Sirius and XM merger after what 6mos to a year.
This guy reeks of taking bribes for his telco boys. -- Your friendly neighborhood cabledude. | |
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| Re: newspaper? said by dvd536 :who cares? people still buy the newspaper? I don't buy newspapers anymore. More advertisements, garbage and junk then there is news.
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| Re: WTF? said by rogunit :Who does this guy answer to? Thousands of normal people show up at hearings and tell him no. Congress tells him no. He just goes ahead and does it? WTF? Its won't Stand most likely the cable company's will take it to court and put em in his place it will just cost them money and if you have Cable that cost is going right to you no ifs ands or buts... -- "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin
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join:2006-10-19 Lindenhurst, NY | hmm So basically the fcc is making it so that ma bell comes back stronger then ever . They are capping cable and letting verizon and att do what ever they want. Come on thats really screwed up. This should also effect fios tv. | |
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| Martin who??? Bye, Bye, Martin.
I listened to Matin as he side-stepped questions from Senators or just refused to answer. He is another prime example of a DC pol who does not live in the real world. My thoughts on the whole thing will be laid out next November. I predict that is where the next American Revolution will begin. Most of us have had enough, already. -- Mac: No windows, No gates, Apple inside | |
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| Now what about Nielsen Media Research The real culprit for the lack of diversity on TV is Nielsen Media Research. Nielsen has a monopoly on the TV ratings system, they use archaic methods to gather ratings information that worked great in the 70s when there were 3 major outlets, but today's fragmented environment "not so much".
They also have a cozy, too close for comfort relationship with Univision, the nation's largest Spanish TV network, which has several ex employees now working at Nielsen and which, not surprisingly, dominates the Hispanic TV Ratings at #s that are too astonishing to believe when compared to other research (Census data, Tomas Rivera, etc.).
What government agency oversees Nielsen Media Research which is responsible the ratings data that are the currency that billions of ad dollars are based upon and determine what TV content you and I do or do NOT get to see?
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| Cable customers to dumb to see the forest for the trees Chairman Martin has been one of the few strong voices for "cable" tv consumers and should be lauded for his efforts.
It's a sad, sad day in the nation when the left, Democrats and corporate villains like Comcast that funnel obscene amounts of money to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have convinced so many people that government regulation and not free markets provide diversity and competition.
You have to be a complete dolt to believe that the same people pushing fascist legislation like the "Fairness Doctrine" in order to control dissemination of information over the radio air wave give one wit about fairness, diversity or competion in the cable industry. | |
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| Re: Cable customers to dumb to see the forest for the trees "Chairman Martin has been one of the few strong voices for "cable" tv consumers and should be lauded for his efforts."
No, actually he shouldn't be.
How exactly does capping cable growth help subscribers?
The largest cable companies are also the cable companies that offer the best line-up of services and have the money to upgrade, expand, and develop new services. . .benefiting cable customers and consumers as a whole. . .competition in the DSL and phone markets has had an affect on how telcos are doing business. Average phone rates have dropped and telcos have pressure on them to upgrade and offer better services. They wouldn't have, if Comcast and Time Warner had not been able to expand their service offerings.
We wouldn't have cable internet or cable voip without Comcast, Time Warner, and Cox leading the way. They were able to build the networks to offer these services because of their large TV business.
Companies have to be able to make money to provide better service, upgrades, and new services. Limiting growth of their video business is going to limit future innovation. | |
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| Re: Cable customers to dumb to see the forest for the trees "We wouldn't have cable internet or cable voip without Comcast, Time Warner, and Cox leading the way. They were able to build the networks to offer these services because of their large TV business."
They were only able to do any of this because of the unfair advantages they were granted by the FCC that allowed them be monopolies in a given area, take ownership stakes in content producing companies who they could then cut unethical deals with to provide content nobody wanted by way of forced bundling.
The caps only partially make up for the years of illegitimate growth they attained by holding entire populations hostage who had one option only to get these services and were forced to pay exorbitant rates for crap programming and inferior products.
The limits can easily be rescinded once true competition has been introduced, forced bundling is ended, exclusive franchise agreements are outlawed and the cable companies are required to compete fairly for customers.
As a decades long victim of the unethical business practices of Comcast and Time Warner I want nothing more than to see them knee-capped as badly as possible to give everyone and anyone who can a chance to compete. I wouldn't even shed a tear if both companies eventually went out of business as a result. | |
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| Re: Cable customers to dumb to see the forest for the trees said by UncleDirtNap :The limits can easily be rescinded once true competition has been introduced, forced bundling is ended, exclusive franchise agreements are outlawed and the cable companies are required to compete fairly for customers. You might to check on the facts... "Exclusive franchise agreements" are illegal. | |
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"Exclusive franchise agreements" are illegal. Ya right Duval county Fl has given comcast an exclusive agreement. If you want cable you have to have comcast. Does this effect service we have almost a million customers who have been out of service for two days. Comcast's response is to automate a message saying they know the service is down and are working on it. If you try another route for information you are placed on terminal hold. Will comcast make any adjustment on their bill not in a million years. After all they need that money. | |
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