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CableTool
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CableTool
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| Actually a good point Now that the cablecos are in the telco market they will need the resources and revenue of as many subscribers as they can get.
Capping them at 30% while the telcos work off of their monopolistic telco budget to further their foray into the Video delivery field is fucking insane.
In other news, Martin purchased a new home in the Hamptons from an undisclosed financial "investment"
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said by CableTool  :Now that the cablecos are in the telco market they will need the resources and revenue of as many subscribers as they can get. Capping them at 30% while the telcos work off of their monopolistic telco budget to further their foray into the Video delivery field is fucking insane. It won't matter. Comcast will take this to court once again. In fact, I would be surprised if they couldn't quickly obtain an injunction preventing any FCC action in this regard until a full hearing could be held - especially since they already won this battle once before.
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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| Beyond the fact that capping "pay TV" is simply ignorant in the first place (it's television folks and competition is available even if Comcast has 100% of the cable TV market), this will impact competition on the HSI market as well. Comcast won't be able to expand into new markets to compete with the behemoth telcos on the ISP front because of this "pay TV" limitation. | |
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halfband
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2 edits | Re: Actually a good point So he wants to limit a company that is trying to expand services across the country, but does nothing to get the incumbent telcos to roll out anything. Bellsouth, now ATT won't even bother to run DSL in many areas around here. And that is in the city, (too many load coils and old lines.) Try policies that promote over-builders, not restricting the ones that are actually investing in infrastructure. If this kind of policy was enforced it would just result in Comcast cherry picking their service areas to keep the most profitable 30%. I guess it is a good thing that no other companies have more than a 30% US market share  . KM appears to be either one of the most corrupt or incompetent officials we have seen lately.
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join:2000-10-17
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| Re: Actually a good point said by halfband :KM appears to be either one of the most corrupt or incompetent officials we have seen lately. Can he be both? | |
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
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| Re: Actually a good point said by AtlGuy :said by halfband :KM appears to be either one of the most corrupt or incompetent officials we have seen lately. Can he be both? Not only can he, but he is succeeding beyond even the wildest expectations.
Usually, I am satisfied with half a loaf. That said, in this case, that half a loaf is not better than no loaf at all. The only way for this to work would be to place hard levels of deployment on the telcos, who Martin seems to lie awake, at night, fretting over.
What all telecom/cable companies need is a few hard kicks in the ass, something Martin seems completely incapable of doing. | |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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| The FCC lately sounds like the most corrupt band of lunatics I've ever seen come out of the government.
It's blatantly obvious that Kevin Martin is in bed with the Telco's. Every single thing you hear from him is something to restrict Cable in some way or another, but you never hear anything about satellite or Telco TV. I don't see how an operation like this can survive for much longer without crumbling into little pieces.
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join:2004-07-03
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| said by CableTool :In other news, Martin purchased a new home in the Hamptons from an undisclosed financial "investment" Hahahahaha!!!! Accusing the competition of bribes!!! Hahahaha!!!! | |
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CableTool
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| Re: Actually a good point said by madrhino :said by CableTool :In other news, Martin purchased a new home in the Hamptons from an undisclosed financial "investment" Hahahahaha!!!! Accusing the competition of bribes!!! Hahahaha!!!! Your Hahas are cutting and deep. Ouch.
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join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | Telco should really be subject to the same rules as cable. Cable had been just as monopolistic until satellite TV came onto the scene. | |
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JSRoman
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Callahan, FL
1 edit | Headed to US court system. Stricken down once, will be stricken down again.
The vote looks to be schedued for 12/18. A lot can happen before the Telco whore gets to pat himself on the back.
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The Devil made me do it
join:2003-06-19
Oxford, MI
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| Where is Karl Rove when Comcast needs him ?? Dosen't the FCC realize ?? that limiting Comcast from entering "all homes" in the USA is a threat to National Security ? ..it is enhancing the Terror Mongers to tap your telephone ? ..unable to view "real time video" of couch potatoes ? Karl would never have let this happen !! Is Kevin Martin really a "Hillary transplant" and just acting out of self-centered greed so he can ensure his job security ? .. Damn ..saidf to see the Republicans heading for cover so SOON ..!
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join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | I'm not saying that I agree with the decision... but these monolistic companies need to get a little more agreeable with the customers or there shall be a lot more of this-maybe to go as far as being regulated as a utility. | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: I'm not saying that I agree with the decision... Ironically thats why I feel it's a good decision. | |
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LiamJunket
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Ocean City, NJ
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2 edits | FCC did not VOTE to limit Comcast YET - story is wrong
The vote is not scheduled until Dec 18 - if it makes the agenda which isn't released until Dec 11.
The headline should read "FCC May vote to cap cable ownership at 30%"
»www.philly.com/inquirer/business···air.html
He also is proposing a vote on the 30 percent limit for the FCC's Dec. 18 meeting, according to published reports.
FCC spokeswoman Mary Diamond said yesterday that the agenda for the meeting would not be published until Dec. 11. She did not have further comment. »news.google.com/news?svnum=10&as···G=Search
Mr. Martin circulated the proposals among the commissioners rather than presenting them in a formal meeting. The panel's two other members haven't voted yet but are expected to shortly. Under FCC rules, the commissioners who have already voted can still change their votes, but that isn't expected to happen.
So, what we have here is a "STRAW VOTE" with the 2 Dems saying how they will vote. But now there is 18 days worth of lobbying to come from the cable industry and Congress to change their minds.
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CableTool
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join:2004-11-12 | Re: FCC did not VOTE to limit Comcast YET - story is wrong Oh WTF!
Well, wake me when its over.
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Shill H8r
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1 edit | Re: FCC did not VOTE to limit Comcast YET - story is wrong said by CableTool :Oh WTF! Well, wake me when its over. I need to stop getting my industry news opinion from DSLR. There, fixed it for ya. | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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4 edits | Dangit, I was hoping they would have to sell thier franchise in my area :P
Payback for taking all those VOIP customers away from ... someone.
Hrm this could lead to cherry picking, or more probably, plums.
Its more important to stop them from violating network neutrality and abusing the internet by putting strain (and cost) on other providers from thier blocking. | |
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| said by LiamJunket :The story headline is WRONG!!! The Wall St Journal writer got it wrong. GASP!!!! that's just not possible - a writer getting something wrong??? | |
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antdude
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join:2001-03-25 | Drop monopolies. Let cable companies fight each other in each city! I hate having only one cable provider.  | |
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Charlton, MA | Re: Drop monopolies. Unfortunately your local cable company usually pays off the town/city big time to keep it as close to a one horse race as possible. Its not a direct cash pay off, but rather in services, donations of support, local access, stuff like that. | |
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| Re: Drop monopolies. said by haplo2112 :Unfortunately your local cable company usually pays off the town/city big time to keep it as close to a one horse race as possible. Its not a direct cash pay off, but rather in services, donations of support, local access, stuff like that. Yeah, see that sucks. Can't FCC or anyone else do anything about that? | |
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halfband
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Huntsville, AL
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| Re: Drop monopolies. said by antdude :Can't FCC or anyone else do anything about that? So you want a government organization that rules at the whim of political bribes, backscratching and payoffs to come up with regulations to prevent the locals from getting a piece of the pie? Don't hold your breath.
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batageek
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| That's not even remotely true.
What keeps out competition is the lack of interest, on the the part of cable companies, to actually compete within a given market.
There's nothing blocking multiple providers from going head to head. In fact it's against the law to block a provider from coming in.
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Belvidere, NJ
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| They didn't pay off jack, here. They came in to the town council meeting, told the council what they wanted and if they didn't get it, they would pull out of the town, stripping every inch of wire, every line amp and every tap as they left. Their demands were non-negotiable and by the way, they would be paying less than last time for the franchise rights.
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| Re: Drop monopolies. I'm going to call bullshit on that one. If nothing else, cablecos are very interested in making money, and nobody is going to dump X number of paying customers because of some municiple regulations. Municiple regulations that have no teeth to them. Franchise agreements are limited in their scope and the local franchise authority has very little power to regulate policies. | |
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| Re: Drop monopolies. said by SKYWARP :I'm going to call bullshit on that one. If nothing else, cablecos are very interested in making money, and nobody is going to dump X number of paying customers because of some municiple regulations. Municiple regulations that have no teeth to them. Franchise agreements are limited in their scope and the local franchise authority has very little power to regulate policies. Well, you go call it anything you like, Sunshine. I know what the councilman told me and he was about as non-prevaricating as they come.
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CableTool
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join:2004-11-12
| said by antdude :Let cable companies fight each other in each city! I hate having only one cable provider. Jonestown : We need more competition, lets solicit some other CableCos to come into our area..
Comcast : Sorry, due to a recent regulation, we can no longer provide service outside our current area.
Timewarner : Sorry, due to recent regualtions, we can no longer provide service outside our current area.
COX : Unofrtunately due to recent regulations we can only provide service to 1,000 residents in your town. We are currently at 29.500% of our cap..
WTF?
Suddenly things look a lot less competitive and stagnant.
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pavetheway
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| 30 percent good enuff' Hmm.. So when does the space ship come back to pick up it's 'cut'? (sorry, obscure star trek reference)
Does this mean that other cable companies can muscle in on a comcast territory? There'd be anarchy.. Does the FCC really want 2 cable companies and a telco overlapping/competing in the same municipalities? --Not to say some good wouldn't come of multiple service providers... (who truly want to compete)
Cable & telco monopolies weren't written into the constitution. If the FCC wants to do any good.. they can rewrite the rules to FORCE comcast into QOS rules that say.. if the competition does NOT have a comparable product making itself a Defacto MONOPOLY, they MUST comply with similar telco QOS rules and regulations. The idea being that if there was only a sub 1megabit dsl service (or worse dialup..) and a 6 megabit comcast cablemodem service.. that Comcast would be under stricter rules that force them to deliver reasonable QOS guarantees similar to telcos have with phone service as it has Defacto monopoly power being the only *reasonable* provider in town. | |
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | i smell something Sure cap comcast but AT&T can be back together buy Dish network up and NO stops them. my A** and TOTAL BS. | |
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hitman_001
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Laredo, TX | Surely the FCC wont "Cap" comcast More than likely they'll just send out a bunch of rst packets. | |
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morbo
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clubs: | Re: Surely the FCC wont "Cap" comcast good one. | |
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hitman_001
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Laredo, TX | Re: At least they told them what the cap is Haha, today is going to be a gooood day  | |
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smokarz
join:2006-07-24
West Hartford, CT
| can we all get along???? let comcast, cox, cablevision, verizon, att, and anyone else to want to join the party, compete in every single city/market in the US. whoever offers the best products/services to consumers will come out atop. peace out...and ahhh Martin, so suck some Telcos c*cks before the cablecos put a stick up your *ss..... | |
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join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY | hmm So basically the fcc is setting up for ma bel lto come back and instead of just owning the us telephone system now they will own telephone,tv,and itnernet?
Isnt that just a little screwed up? | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | You forget Comcast sucks I'm sure plenty of Comcast and former Comcast customers that Comcast can't expand further. I mean unless you want techs falling asleep at your house, hitting gas lines or murdering you. | |
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join:2006-06-13
Gaithersburg, MD | Ridiculous! What is the FCC going to do? Block subscribers from signing up with Comcast? Disconnect Comcast customers and shift them over to Verizon? Let Comcast work freely in the marketplace along with Verizon, Embarq, Qwest, Cablevision and all the others. | |
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join:2002-09-13
Salt Lake City, UT
| Re: Ridiculous! If only there were a way to make them all compete on a level playing field... Like have the local Governmet own the infrastructure and have companies compete on merit of content and services? It would be a Utopia!  | |
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Knoxville, TN
| said by DufiefData :Disconnect Comcast customers and shift them over to Verizon? If Martin had his way I would say this is not a rediculous statement...I mean he has to continue giving the telcos something for what is obviously going into his pocket.
If the government really wants to do something worthwhile they would look at the FCC and just see what is going on, why are they all of a sudden in bed w/ the telcos. I would venture to say there would be some late night shredding that would rival Enron! | |
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join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA
| Support Competition; Don't Cap Growth The FCC should be voting to ban all government regulations and dictates that obstruct competition. All adequately-funded companies willing to offer service in an area should be granted all appropriate licenses to do so, without having to pay the government anything for the privilege except the explicit costs of damages their facility installations cause to town property. No more sweet-heart deals. No more franchising authority extortion. | |
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DotMac
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1 edit | Rules should apply to everyone These ownership limits should apply to telco services as well, especially considering the size of the Death Star's footprint. | |
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| FCC is uterly turd... but so is TV FCC prob has some money grubbing reason for this or they wouldnt do it... gotta remember, anything the FCC does is motivated by pure greed... These 3 guys prob have shares somewhere else.. or know people who do... or had a bet on.. or fell out with somebody at comcast.
For sure they have no legit reason.
Either way cap or no cap, TV sucks more and more by the day so who cares what happens where hey? | |
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Smyrna, GA
clubs: | What does Comcast do... As they get close to the 30%, they sell small systems and focus on bigger ones. Smaller systems go to a company that has less to invest in upgrades, and you have more of a gap. What good comes of that? | |
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TraumaJunkie
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Knoxville, TN
| Re: LOL said by Sharingislegal :Am I suppose to feel sorry for Comcast? No one is asking anyone to feel sorry, just for an even playing field for all. The FCC has definately created a playing field tilted in the telco's favor. | |
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