  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD |  Love Google Voice
If there's a new alternative for SMS from Facebook... I say bring it on!
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Rochester, NY | Re: Love Google Voice This is bad for google voice users! | |
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If there's a new alternative for SMS from Facebook... I say bring it on!
Does GV support MMS or IM to SMS? Until that happens it's no deal. | |
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| | | said by pnh102:Setting up Google Voice for messaging and blocking all messages through Verizon was one of the first things I did when I got my wife a Droid X. I can't pay for messaging on principle...
If there's a new alternative for SMS from Facebook... I say bring it on!
How does she handle one number for voice and one for SMS. I have a Droid X but that seems to be an issue. Also all of the SMS forwarding aps suck. Every time I try to use a forwarding ap it just displays my Verizon number and not the number of the person it came from. If you think you can help please IM me.
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kudos:2 | Re: Love Google Voice Simple, use your GV number for voice as well...assuming you don't experience the annoying latency that some GV users experience. | |
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| | | | | Re: Love Google Voice said by openbox9:Simple, use your GV number for voice as well...assuming you don't experience the annoying latency that some GV users experience.
Thant my issue. I would like to use my Verizon # for voice and GV for SMS. All this without completely confusing people. Including myself 
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kudos:2 | Re: Love Google Voice So you want to use two separate numbers? The GV app has an option "Making Calls" in the settings. Set that to not use GV to make calls. There are many additional settings if you log into your GV account with a browser. | |
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join:2011-03-03
Pennsauken, NJ | I use an app for the iPhone called TextNow. They give you a free text number. I blocked SMS on my voice number so no more SMS surpises.
You can also use your TextNow texting number as a voice number (for a fee), which would be great if you didn't have to sign up for a voice plan with your cell phone. You could just use your data plan and sign up for a voice over data for cheap.
We can't have that because it would shrink profit margins for the big boys. | |
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| | pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Lets Go:How does she handle one number for voice and one for SMS. I have a Droid X but that seems to be an issue. Also all of the SMS forwarding aps suck. Every time I try to use a forwarding ap it just displays my Verizon number and not the number of the person it came from. If you think you can help please IM me.
She just gives people the Google Voice number for everything. SMS forwarding would not work for her since I disabled the native texting through Verizon.
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| | | | | Re: Love Google Voice said by pnh102:said by Lets Go:How does she handle one number for voice and one for SMS. I have a Droid X but that seems to be an issue. Also all of the SMS forwarding aps suck. Every time I try to use a forwarding ap it just displays my Verizon number and not the number of the person it came from. If you think you can help please IM me.
She just gives people the Google Voice number for everything. SMS forwarding would not work for her since I disabled the native texting through Verizon. Has she had any issues with the "voice" part of Google voice? This is what I am worried about.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Love Google Voice said by Lets Go:Has she had any issues with the "voice" part of Google voice? This is what I am worried about. She just calls people using the normal phone function. Since most of the people she calls have her listed under her name rather than number, at most it was just one call that resulted in confusion.
Of course, the people who would send her texts need to make sure they pick the correct number, but I am not paying extra for texting just to save other people the hassle of doing that.
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| | | | | | | Re: Love Google Voice wow that sounds like a PITA to save a little bit of money... | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Love Google Voice said by kirk1233:wow that sounds like a PITA to save a little bit of money... Whatever it takes I will do it. I don't have unlimited funds.
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| | What ever happened... To the good ol' days of Free SMS?
I remember in 03' it was included free!!!
I still think it's rediculious they charge soo much or SMS. | |
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Re: What ever happened... 5 cents per outbound text, inbound free. Was nice...
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if you just txt 1 character it's .05
if you text 160 it's .05
it adds up. you may have heard about excesive data charges but what about SMS. I hear they could be just as bad as excess Data. | |
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|  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
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kudos:1 | If something like this takes off, SMS will become just another bundled service.
I'm not on Facebook. I deleted my account almost a year ago, and I don't miss it one bit. I really have no intention of using any of their products. All you're doing is throwing more private information into their data mining operation.
I really don't need Facebook reading my TXT messages and putting ads in them....
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| Re: What ever happened... Hate to break it to ya(N3OGH), but you seem to be paranoid to the extreme. If you didnt know, Google datamines nearly every site on the internet, via the "google-analytics.com" web address. How do you think they web site usage statistics. You are just a moron. They cant take personally identifiable information, and publish it, that is still deemed illegal. Same with facebook. You have to "opt-in" to share ANY personal information on facebook now. Get over it. | |
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San Francisco, CA | Re: What ever happened... It isn't illegal. You should get your facts right before you lob insults at people more intelligent than yourself. | |
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kudos:1 | You just have to LOVE name calling on the Internet.
I'm well aware of how Google analytics works.
Seeings as I'm not handing Google; My Sex, age, race, relationship status, complete list of past & present employers, past & present schools attended, a list of my friends and relatives, my picture, and what I did for fun last night I would say it's a very very POOR comparison.
The news is RIFE with people who got fired over posting on Facebook. I personally know someone who got fired for calling out sick to attend a MLB game. His boss found out through his WIFE'S Facebook page. She updated her status as being at the game. The boss knew the wife would not go to the game without her husband, and knocked on his door. So fired.
Is it usually something bone headed like that? Sure. But, we all make mistakes (like you calling me a moron), so I see no need to take chances. I'm perfectly fine with meeting my friends in person and sharing what's going on in our lives. I actually prefer to have social interaction with living, breathing people.
You probably like hanging out in your parent's basement with your home built KeWl HaCkEr WaReZ computer with some sort of blue light emanating from the case. Afraid to talk to a (gasp!) real girl. The Internet being the ONLY place you could ever bring yourself to be assertive with anyone, except when you're "Dungeon Master".... 
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| | | | | | Re: What ever happened... Your credibility and maturity just went down... a lot.
By attacking back makes you the smaller person, and makes you look like a complete loser. Sorry, it's the truth. | |
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join:2003-11-11
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kudos:1 | Re: What ever happened... Shrug. Why post Anon when you speak of credibility? | |
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Oakland, CA | Your comment made me laugh. I had blue lights but it came with my case and that got boring quick, so I removed it. I did get arena dominator once at Qzar (lazer tag).
There's a ton of tech nerds that fit into your description though. Those are the hardcore fanboys who can't accept other people's preferences. If we're not using what they're using, we suck in their eyes. Even if they can't explain why. | |
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kudos:2 | said by djhexer:I still think it's rediculious they charge soo much or SMS. If people weren't willing to pay it, they wouldn't charge so much. | |
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| | Every industry needs an annuity..... Or 'cash cow' as Karl puts it. The printer industry has it in ink (black gold), car manufactures have it with their options packages, retailers have it selling product insurance, etc, etc. It's revenue companies can depend on and get them through the rough spots.
Karl is right, now that the disruptor's are here, carriers will be under tremendous pressure to make up for the losses elsewhere and the marketplace will decide what succeeds and what won't. | |
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| | | Re: Every industry needs an annuity..... said by JasonOD :Or 'cash cow' as Karl puts it. The printer industry has it in ink (black gold), car manufactures have it with their options packages, retailers have it selling product insurance, etc, etc. It's revenue companies can depend on and get them through the rough spots.
Karl is right, now that the disruptor's are here, carriers will be under tremendous pressure to make up for the losses elsewhere and the marketplace will decide what succeeds and what won't.
Very true... it's really just business as usual. You lose profits on one stream of income so now you have to find something to replace it. It's been like this since businesses were first created. | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Cash cow or not, what you also so eagerly left out was that the more these cash cows shrink, something you celebrate, people lose jobs.
I love how so many people here want to see business revenue shrink but forget that it cots jobs and hurts the economies.
Stream lining and automation isn't always a good thing, like it or not. it just means that these disruptor live up to their name, only they disrupt the economy in a whole. So great, facebook and google want to start offering these services for free. At their profit margins and ads and other sources of revenue that requires these 'free services' to be popular, you can now be angry that these other companies are many even higher profit margins on the same service.. and they employ less people in the process.
Celebrate!
It takes money to make the world go around. I'd be fine with this so long as it introduced competition that generated revenue.. this kind of disruption hurts in the long run... not helps. | |
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join:2001-10-19
Naples, FL | Why is SMS still relevant? I am surprised that SMS is even used when stuff like email exists.
Didn't the first iPhone not have SMS? | |
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| SMS is already a required service on ANY carrier.... how does this change anything? AT&T, Tmobile, Verzion, Sprint, and many smaller US wireless carriers already REQUIRE SMS services, so how does this change anything? they will raise rates for SMS, and data at the same time, all while forcing you to pay for something you dont really need/want anymore. This is a lame attempt at facebook to "own" the infrastructure that they already use. Facebook uses a SMS reciever service to allow updating of your facebook page with SMS messages. They obviously need an in-between for that service to work, so they contracted someone out to do it, and thus, they have now bought the people that did it, as to cut costs after the 1 year contract expiration. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: SMS is already a required service on ANY carrier.... said by Chubbysumo:AT&T, Tmobile, Verzion, Sprint, and many smaller US wireless carriers already REQUIRE SMS services VZW doesn't and I don't believe the others do either. | |
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|  DataDocMy avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC | I'm on T-Mobil and I have NO data services.
Yet the occasional text message still get through. 
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| When is the CellPhone just going to be another DATA device. Where it only has a single connection it uses for Voice and Data and only one bill for said usage... Talk time is no longer relevant... why not just have a billing system like Home internet... $50 a month per device unlimited.
And the true definition of unlimited. No shaping, blocking, caps, overages, DNS trickery, http redirection and such. A nice dumb pipe. | |
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| | | Re: When is the CellPhone just going to be another DATA device. t-mobile already has this. It's 49.99 a month (no minutes or texts).
They do not have overages, but reserve the right to throttle users after 5GB although i've never been throttled for going over. | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | What? you think people don't talk any more? how silly you are.
KIDS don't talk anymore, maybe.. but sorry to say, that's because they're too cost conscious to use minute.. that, and I think they realized that they have really nothing worth the 'VALUE' that really needs to be said when we're talking about a per-minute charge.
but I'm sorry to burst your bubble, people still do talk on the phone. But, what I do agree with is that cell PHONES ultimately need to become a one price for all billing method. | |
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join:2000-10-05
Wallingford, CT | BlackBerry Messenger I love using that. And it looks like it'll be running on Driod and possibly IOS. I never text...I BBM.
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| Re: BlackBerry Messenger said by Glenn:I love using that. And it looks like it'll be running on Driod and possibly IOS. I never text...I BBM.
Apparently for a fee or a reoccurring fee. Plus it will be a stripped down version. Depending what is not included, this may just be worthless.
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join:2001-01-13
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| Never Had an SMS Plan I never had an SMS plan an used it very infrequently on my cell. When T-Mobile offered the option to turn it off I did. However, when I got my iPod Touch, I discovered the various free SMS services and now use TextFree.us quite a bit. Still, even with the free service, I never consume enough messages to justify even the lowest cost SMS plan. Eventually the cell model is going to be pure data with SMS and voice just another data stream on the link.
I know, the cell companies are terrified of that!
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| | | Re: Never Had an SMS Plan said by n2jtx:I know, the cell companies are terrified of that!
I don't think they're terrified of it.. they're just confused. They are trying to find replacements for these lost revenues. Innovation will always win out and once they come up with something else they'll be just fine. Everything in life changes so the smart Telcos are already two steps ahead in the game. | |
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join:2000-01-13
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| I've said it all along, it's all data It's all data, they just made the choice to abuse this old system that used to be used for voicemail notification only, and charge money for. Charging for sms was a scam to begin with, and people figured out it was sometimes cheaper to send a text than use their minutes.
Everything should be data, period voice calls are all data now since analog is truly dead, and they want to charge us even for for accessing other data via this same data connection, however carriers haven't figure out how to allow multiple streams over the same data connection, others have parallel data connections, one dedicated to the voice.
I used to e-mail, or chat on my phone over the internet instead of sms all the time, however some people still use the standard method. E-mailing allows you to do international sms for free instead of the insane international sms rates.
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| | Interesting perspective but... Data plans and capable phones cost much more than unlimited SMS on most carriers.
I guess you could argue people would want data for other reasons and refuse to pay extra on top of it for unlimited SMS however globally my guess there is still a large base not willing to pay for a data plan.
Also SMS works in more areas than data does and will generally be cheaper than data when roaming.
Given economies of scale involved that mobile is still soo expensive is hard to justify. Other countries pay far far less for the same service. What we really need is more spectrum opened up and more competition. | |
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join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1 | Wifi who cares I have Wifi at home, and at work, and at train stations. The only time, i depend on cellular is in between. Otherwise its totally free sms for me. | |
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join:2007-09-04
Canada
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| Die. I wish Facebook would just die already. It is such a horrible thing I don't see why so many people are addicted to it. I had signed up but after a while all the conversations and messages are just useless boring banter. Their photo album feature is useless, you can't view the original photo only a browser-sized version. Video is equally shitty. You get spammed with requests to participate in various useless apps and games. Any measure of privacy is practically non-existent. Sure you can lock down your profile and all that but it won't stop other people from sharing your information.
Needless to say, didn't take long until I decided to delete my account.
Oh, and I don't care much for SMS either. I find it more of a chore than anything. Easier to just call and talk to the person directly or leave a voice mail. | |
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I do not use facebook, do not understand why people use it, and hope it goes away as quickly as it became popular. It is a company that neither produces nor creates anything, all it does is charge people for useless random impulse things.
People say "well i can't text and i don't have a messenger (yahoo, aim etc) but you can add me on facebook". I say to them, "nah it's cool". If they want to actually be social, do it in real life, not via some out of control 80's high school movie made into a website.
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