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kudos:1 | Re: how much longer before well probably any day now | |
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| | | | Re: how much longer before never. att doesnt want them or they would have already picked up the market. Plus now with the Dems. ATT won't be getting much of anything. Why do you think the ATT/Cent Wireless deal is taking so long? | |
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| | |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| Re: how much longer before said by hottboiinnc:Why do you think the ATT/Cent Wireless deal is taking so long? Because frankly AT&T isn't keen on it anymore, When the economy tanked, the numbers went south, and now they are dragging their feet.
AT&T doesn't want Fairpoint. Remember we're talking about the dregs Verizon dumped because they didn't want them. The only way either of these two would pick this back up again is if they basically got it handed to them for free. And probably they'd demand some concessions from regulators on top of that!
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| Re: how much longer before ATT NEEDS CentWireless to cover MANY of their gaps in the Midwest, mainly in MI and Indy.
Cent will take and cover those without a problem, especially when CentWireless is the only provider expect for VZW (formally Alltel Wireless).
ATT isn't dragging their feet, they just want to make sure they can take CentWireless and some of Alltel Trust with them. | |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Good god That was Verizon's entire intention.
Sell it to eager morons to break it up and buy it back pennies on the dollar. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Good god Verizon's first intention was to devalue its rural assets to:
1. Make it easy to sell (nobody wants rural landline business these days)
2. Claim it as a loss so that it can get a huge tax break
3. Enjoy failure of new incumbent landline company
4. Deploy wireless and WLL / LTE and make more money. | |
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| said by Mike:That was Verizon's entire intention. Sell it to eager morons to break it up and buy it back pennies on the dollar. I don't think Verizon is interested in any copper plant. I wouldn't doubt that their long term plan is to have nothing but fiber and wireless.
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kudos:4 |  True?? Maybe or maybe not; time will tell
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| | | Re: True?? Maybe or maybe not; time will tell Seeing as how most of what you say goes against common sense and basic logic, and that this whistle blower is obviously putting his job in a difficult position by trying to be the anonymous informer, I highly doubt it. | |
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| | | | Re: True?? Maybe or maybe not; time will tell why? the union didn't want them taking over they wanted to keep VZ but yet bitched that VZ wouldn't maintain the network.
I call the Union on this one as well. | |
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| Re: True?? Maybe or maybe not; time will tell Yeah, it's gotta be the union spreading FUD. Uh, whatever.
The only thing the Union is guilty of is seeing the writing on the wall about the merger and being RIGHT about the outcome.
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| said by ThrowDemsOut:Could just be a union official trying to stir the pot and continue to blacken Fairpoint's reputation because the union didn't want this spinoff to occur. Anonymous accusations without documented evidence are suspect..... but baseless speculation apparently is ok...
It could ALSO be that the Unions had concerns about Fairpoint's financial position and ability to pull this off. Concerns that seem to be borne out by the chain of events.... and which jive with the CWA's statements BEFORE the merger happened.
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| | | | Re: True?? Maybe or maybe not; time will tell said by KrK:said by ThrowDemsOut:Could just be a union official trying to stir the pot and continue to blacken Fairpoint's reputation because the union didn't want this spinoff to occur. Anonymous accusations without documented evidence are suspect..... but baseless speculation apparently is ok... Neither are OK...I imagine the point is that without documented evidence, TK's baseless speculation has about the same credibility as the undocumented allegation, at least until corroborating evidence is provided.
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| Re: True?? Maybe or maybe not; time will tell Well, I did find it amusing that he said "Anonymous accusations without documented evidence are suspect....." and then followed it up with some pure speculation. "Probably the Union..." etc
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| | From the sounds of it I'm not being impressed about this acquisition. Fairpoint is supposed to be taking over Verizon's stuff here in Michigan sometime in the future.
Not looking forward to that, from what I've been reading. May have to go back to Charter cable when and if this happens.
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| | | Re: From the sounds of it LET'S MAKE THINGS SIMPLE. VERIZON HAD A COMPANY BOGGED DOWN IN HUGE DEBT. ITS LAND-LINE CUSTOMERS WERE LEAVING IN DROVES FOR WIRELESS SERVICE, LEAVING LITTLE HOPE OF RECOVERING THEIR INVESTMENT. FAIRPOINT COMES ALONG, PAYS SOME CASH AND TAKES ON THE HUGE DEBT. FAIRPOINT GOES BANKRUPT, THE DEBT PART DISAPPEARS IN BANKRUPTCY COURT, AND THE REMAINING DEBT FREE COMPANY IS SOLD OFF TO A RELIABLE COMPANY (THE WHITE KNIGHT) TO COME SAVE OUR DIAL TONE......IT WAS A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN BY VERIZON. NO-ONE ELSE WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO TAKE ON SUCH A LEMON OF A COMPANY (PLANT-WISE) TO BELIEVE THEY COULD MAKE MONEY HERE. IT'LL BE A BARGAIN FOR SOMEONE VERY SOON........ | |
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| | THE UNION???? COME ON NOW......THE UNION COLLECTS DUES AND IN RETURN ITS MAIN GOAL IS TO PROTECT THE UNION MEMBERS(IE: THE DUES PAYERS) WHAT PURPOSE WOULD IT SERVE THEM TO DRIVE THE EMPLOYER OUT OF BUSINESS FORCING LAYOFFS OF ITS MEMBERS? THE UNION WAS AGAINST THIS BECAUSE THE MEMBERS HAD FIRST HAND INFORMATION ON THE DETERIORATING COPPER PLANT THAT VERIZON TOUTED AS BEING PERFECT FOR DSL...IT'S GREEN AND BLUE DISINTEGRATING COPPER THAT BARELY HANDLES A POTS LINE.....THEY WERE SELLING A LEMON AND CALLING IT LEMONADE....PUC'S DIDN'T LISTEN AND NOW IT'S THE UNIONS FAULT? TRY AGAIN....... | |
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