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Orange, CA | Re: Hrm Nope, they will just turn up the bandwidth (Docsis 3.0). Its called COMPETITION!!! Now the cable companies actually have something to fight for, of course only in the areas that FIOS is being deployed. We need a state or federal broadband PLAN. | |
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| Re: Hrm I am going to amaze you MORE, I AM A REPULICAN. But I am also an IT man and know the climate of broadband in this country. I know that the current scheme of less than five companies competing against each other. Is NOT going to cut it. We need to drive competition and one of the ways to do that is REFORM. | |
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| Re: Hrm That sounds like something I would hear on Leykis 101.
I do agree that a Republican (I'm a moderate myself), asking for a federal broadband plan is not a true republican.
Competition is a good thing, and a certain amount of government regulation would be good to kick start everything, however, the FUSF/USF, etc. should have been funding this, not the telco's slush fund. | |
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| said by UncleDirtNap  :Since when has Government intervention and regulation ever driven competition? Has worked in many EU countries... Probably elsewhere as well..
Incumbents have been forced to share the network they inherited. But this was done already in the US with CLECS and ILECS, afaik.
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| Re: Hrm said by RideRed :Pigs will fly before we see DOCSIS 3. Well I hope you are better at hunting birds than Cheney, because thats the only way you are getting your bacon.
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| Re: Hrm said by Loker :said by RideRed :Pigs will fly before we see DOCSIS 3. Well I hope you are better at hunting birds than Cheney, because thats the only way you are getting your bacon. I have little to worry about. The pigs will be on the ground for long into the future. People will talk about flying pigs, but we won't ever see one.
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| said by RideRed :Pigs will fly before we see DOCSIS 3. Pardon me?!? Pigs can fly now. It's called propulsion. Simply a matter of the correct placement of the right quantity of dynamite, solid rocket fuel or similar material.
And oddly enough, dynamite is roughly what would be required to get the existing cable and phone companies off their butts and really interested in "eating their own children" by deploying next generation services that could potentially eliminate their current cushy revenue streams.
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| said by tristansbs :Could this be the final blow for cable companies in areas that are served by FIOS? I sure hope so. Yeah how many areas is that? Not many. Color me excited when FIOS gets near me. Right now I don't think there is any FIOS within 600 miles of me. | |
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| Re: Hrm That is because you are in an area currently served by BellSouth (which is being bought by the not-so-new AT&T). I live in a VZ-serviced area (Maryland, to be specific) and have FIOS available *right now*. While VZ services a lot of the US, it does not cover the *entire* US. The majority of folks in DSLR won't be happy until FIOS/FTTP is available nationwide. *That* won't happen unless VZ is premitted to buy *all* the RBOCs (that won't happen) or they are allowed to compete heads-up with each other for basic phone service (that won't happen, either). | |
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| said by tristansbs :Could this be the final blow for cable companies in areas that are served by FIOS? Sorry, but no. | |
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Tools Are Using Me
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Erial, NJ | I don't care!! I don't care if it's BPON or GPON or FON (ok I do care about that) I just want FIOS sometime this decade!! Glad to see they keep pushing foward where it already is though. | |
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| I sooo wish I could get fios here. i'm in sbcland though, so it'll never happen, and project lightspeed is looking like garbage more and more every day.
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| Re: I don't care!! said by jjsk8r85 :I sooo wish I could get fios here. i'm in sbcland though, so it'll never happen, and project lightspeed is looking like garbage more and more every day. That's why comcast makes so much money around here, they're the fastest you can get. At least they aren't HQed in your city. I won't be seeing Fios for lord knows how long. Thankfully, TWC is competitive and love to make AT&T look like crap any chance they get....  | |
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Boston, MA | Re: Amazing ! It seems it's Alcatel-Lucent that's actually pushing the envelope and Verizon is just buying their products, no?
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| said by BosstonesOwn :I sort of remember people saying Verizon stopped "developing" new things for FIOS because the Investors were scared. Guess they were wrong eh. Verizon is on the right track. They can keep pushing the envelope like this, and soon cable maybe hurting. Hmm Guess Brian Roberts BMW , May be passed by Ivan's Bentley soon By soon you must mean sometime in 2015 or so when Comcast has snatched up all of Verizon and Att's local phone subs.
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Saginaw, MI | Re: Amazing ! The war isn't over the home phone subs... the new war is in purely wireless and data (internet). I truely think the baby bells can care less about res telco subs as much as the push and energy has been given to wireless and data. | |
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| Re: Amazing ! said by tschmidt :To their credit they have be the most aggressive Telco deploying FTTP. You're right.. not the first, and STILL not the best speed offering over fiber either.. but the most aggressive..
However, I wouldn't give them even credit for being aggressive.. I DO give them credit for RESPONDING well to being wiped out. They aren't innovating, they made the right choice. Other phone companies have been rolling out fiber for as long as 8 years now. When it comes to choice, I don't care if they are large medium or small.. it's all relative. For this, I give VZ a fail. I also give SBC a fail as well, however, that's more because the CEO was too busy finding something that 'works' to get them by before he retires so he can take the large pay out he's getting. When W. is gone from SBC, you will see fiber in the works.. that's my prediction.
But Verizon.. I give them credit for making the RIGHT decision to cable in taking their customers right out from under them hand over fist. If anyone has been proactive, it's been cable.. period. Cable isn't reacting to phone, rather phone is reacting to cable. Think of this as a poker game. Cable made a bet, cable matched, and is raising, and now phone is calling the bet. It's coming to a point where the cards will get laid down.. only neither is going to be the "winner".. well, actually, the spectators in this game, the customers, WILL end up winning.. at least those that are part of the audience.. the larger cities. (for now at least)
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4 edits | Re: Amazing ! As you mention in other posts, PRICE is king. Verizon has nothing to worry about so long as cable continues their 3x inflation yearly increases and cable telephony has nothing to worry about so long as telcos charge $7.50 for Caller ID and $1.50 to keep you name out of the phonebook.
Cable will continue to react to telco competition by ramping up speeds where they see FiOS. Telcos will continue to react to cable competition by deploying video services and trying to sue VOIP providers like Vonage out of existence.
Personally I think I'll see pigs fly before I see TWC deploy DOCSIS 3 in my 'hood. They have no worries though as FiOS in my neighborhood sucks serious ass. | |
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thender2
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Staten Island, NY | Suddenly 9.5 mbps up doesn't seem so special. Other companies who cap uploads to "preserve the integrity of the network" will soon have some explaining to do. | |
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| Re: Suddenly 9.5 mbps up doesn't seem so special. said by fiberguy :...yup! ...to that 1% of the customer base that cares. Someone like you was around when people like me were complaining about 608/80.
Joe Blow Musician A wants to send session that they did in his basement to musician B's house. He finds out it takes over an hour to send 350 MB, and decides to begin looking for a new internet connection.
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| Re: Suddenly 9.5 mbps up doesn't seem so special. "Someone like you was around when people like me were complaining about 608/80"
huh?
FYI.. not only was I an early adopter of 384/128 Pacific Bell DSL for $90 a month, a 2 year commit, and $300 install + $120 alcatel 1000 modem fee, I was the first guy in Sacramento to have it installed.. at least according to all the press people, and company officials that were at my place.. but then again, I guess I've been through all the growing pains too. When the service first came out, unlike some, I was doing ANYTHING but complaining... I was EXTREMELY happy to pay that $90 a month for it. Many people can THANK the likes of me for shelling out the money for the service to get it off the ground so they can have the $14.95 1.5 or $20 3.0 DSL they enjoy today.
And also.. it's an hour.. it's not like you're running on a tread mill for an hour.. start the transfer and let it go.
I'm not saying that faster speeds aren't nice to have.. but, like you said, musicians, especially the ones you're talking about, are still that small percentage.
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| Re: Suddenly 9.5 mbps up doesn't seem so special. Musicians were just an example. Sessions do go up to 4-9 gigs so, an hour with FIOS beats 14 hours on Comcast. There is absolutely no excuse for stopping the progression of technology just because a few people won't care. The people who don't care now will in the future when someone comes up with an idea that brings with it requirements for more bandwidth.
This was said about so many technologies, that were "just for nerds" that are now widespread. If R&D didn't bother going for better just because joe blow doesn't care, we'd live in a very different world. There are many reasons not to go for better. It won't work, it'll cost a ton of money, it has no practical use. But.. because the average user doesn't care? No, I don't buy that.
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| Re: Suddenly 9.5 mbps up doesn't seem so special. You're right.. and I agree with you..technology should always push forward.
Now.. also take into consideration this:
If you were a service provider with large land based networks, would you invest in every single incremental technology that give a little more? That's what you're asking/getting-at.
Think computers.. starting at the 700mhz, then the 800, 900, 1.0, 1.2 and so on. In that path, I didn't upgrade from a 700 until the 1.2 came out. The next step was a 2.0, then a 3.0. I didn't make a bunch of little moves as the cost was too much. I waited a little for the technology to really convince me.
Cable/DSL providers are in the same boat. The market is uber competitive, and consumers want the prices lower. (A little misplaced desire, but I digress) At the same time, they consumer wants more. (Makes no sense in the real world) Cable, for example, isn't going to move from DOCSIS 1.1 to 2.0 with 3.0 on the table. There's not a lot of reason to make a move to 2.0.
In case you haven't noticed, technology HAS improved and people HAVE in fact seen it. DSL was only 256 for a while then moved up to that 1.5 limit. Now, in a few short years, you see people getting up to 7.0 - and prices are going down.
Cable use up to 1.5, not you see speeds at 16 and in some rare cases, 30. It's only really been about 7 years since broadband was really adopted and it became 'the way to connect to the internet'...
Technology is being tossed out almost daily.. people are coming into new ways to push more at faster speeds to more people. Like you, the consumer, with people throwing HD TV and other stuff your way, do you buy? or do you take a step back because you KNOW the moment you buy that TV, something better will be out in a month for a little less even (possibly) ...
Operators are no different. They ARE consumers just like you. They also have to ensure that people are going o buy it. I personally don't think that things have not moved forward .. in the last 7 years, much have moved forward. To be honest, Verizon, in their glory of Fios, sat on that technology for those same 7 years. WinFirst and Surewest had been running fiber since 2000. Fiber isn't new.. it's just new to Verizon. There are many fiber projects that have been going on for a while now.
No one said this was a technology just for nerds... and to be honest.. yes, you're group is in the minority. Minorities DON'T pay the big bills it takes to upgrade these networks with the new technologies. I know it's hard to swallow this, but your group doesn't matter to them - and I agree. They move at the pace of the bulk of their clients in this capitalistic society we live in. Supply and demand doesn't get driven by the 1%. Other people in your needs actually spend money to have the resources needed and don't expect charity from another business to give it to you at a cut rate price unlike others who are more professional in their operation and realize that if they need to push the data, they put in T-1's or better. Just like if you run a business from home, have a real need for phone lines but feel you can't afford them and you want better for less. (Sorry, call me Simon Cowel here, but sometimes the truth needs to be told and it hurts)
But, to end with what you started off with - again, no one has stopped progression.
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| To soon? I think its currently a waste to upgrade to GPON, they are by NO MEANS currently pushing BPON to the limit to warrant a upgrade to GPON.
I think its a waste of money, that money their using to upgrade could be used for further their range to fios customers (more customers)
Hell they dont even have that many customers and they arent pushing this service like they should be to get it to the masses. | |
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| Re: To soon? said by ztmike :I think its currently a waste to upgrade to GPON, they are by NO MEANS currently pushing BPON to the limit to warrant a upgrade to GPON. I think its a waste of money, that money their using to upgrade could be used for further their range to fios customers (more customers) Hell they dont even have that many customers and they arent pushing this service like they should be to get it to the masses. Yeah because the $20 more per sub that it takes is to much !
How about 10 years down the road when now they don't have to upgrade to gpon cause all new builds have it already ?
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join:2002-12-04
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| Why wait until there is a pressing, absolute need to upgrade before doing so? I think it's a waste of money to NOT upgrade. You're buying something (BPON) that will be needed in the future. I would hope that new delpoyments would be GPON and the old BPON would be replaced. That's the problem with big businesses some times. I'm glad Verizon is doing things the right way... Or at least in a way where there not going to be hurting a few years down the road. I call it smart business.... ALso, I agree with you about the fact that Verizon isn't pushing as hard as they should, but they don't really have to right now. I had FiosTV and Internet for 8 months. The installers were having trouble keeping up with the present work load. | |
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| You should think that the markets serve by VZ have past the Break Event Point
So increesing speed should make more money when they sign another 10-20% of the market...
either way with the discounts on volume purchasing from equipment manufacturer...
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| a subscriber will demand between 35 and 70 Mbps by 2010 That’s why the race is on for the cable companies
To upgrade their current Hybrid Fiber Coax (HFC) to Fiber to the Home (FTTH). It's looking like Comcast could deploy (FTTH) for a lot less than Verizon currently is. But, this GPON is some good stuff. Go Verizon! | |
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| Re: a subscriber will demand between 35 and 70 Mbps by 2010 Well... hmmm.. let's see. I'm not sure where you got those numbers from.. 35/70 demand in less than 3 years? I don't buy that..
Most consumers shop by price, not speed. They shop for perceived value, not speed. Your subject should have read, SOME subs will... not sure why you said "A sub" but anyway.. the numbers are strange.
Being that it may be anyway... cable still has the advantage over verizon. What people don't get is this.. DOCSIS 3.0 is still easier for them to deploy than a fiber rebuild. You are right that cable can push fiber that last mile to the home quicker than VZ can rebuild. HOWEVER, VZ still can't touch apartments.. cable can. In alot of the markets that VZ serves, there are TONS of apartments that are out of reach for them.. but not for cable and 3.0.
Right now, VZ is making headlines.. their turning on light.. it's good for them.. this will continue for another year or so before their project becomes old news. Cable will flip the switch on 3.0 and instantly, system to system, have access to 3.0 benefits, in virtual terms, pretty much over night.
To be honest, this is why cable puts their money in 3.0 rather than fiber. Once you go fiber, in an established network, the installations get longer, more of them come at you faster, more room for even more errors, more equipment to chase around in an established system..etc. This is similar, for cable, as it was when some systems launched digital phone and the RSU was introduced to the side of the house. (Similar to a ONT) Cable can play play the up-man game easier and THEN figure out if they want to push fiber out farther at a more relaxed pace.
One last thing that I've said many times over.. I don't root for cable and I don't root for phone.. I root for both. They keep each other in reasonable check. People call for the elimination of cable.. what good is that? Phone will just start abusing people again. Phone is playing the good guy now because it's convenient and their turn. With out cable, phone would continue it's history of customer abuse. Take phone away, and cable gets even more bold. They BOTH need to be there other wise you don't see advance.. the very reason cable merged was to be competitive with phone.. it worked. When the cable co's merged, more was put out to the consumer.. now phone is reacting.
Will you see your faster speeds? I'd say most people in larger cities will have access to at least 15mb or 25 mb by 2010...maybe more.. depending on 3.0.
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| Re: a subscriber will demand between 35 and 70 Mbps by 2010 question.
HOW can cable "turn on 3.0 overnight" when most people barely have 2.0 compliant modems?
are thay going to just mass mail every one a new modem or run
2.0/3.0 at the same time
even then what about the people that have 1.1 or less modems
when there net just stops working one day?
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joe sixpack: my net doesnt work
cable rep: were sorry we upgraded the network youll have to pay $X more for a new modem
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| Re: a subscriber will demand between 35 and 70 Mbps by 2010 3.0 is backwards compatible with the earlier versions.. that's how.
The channel bonding is done in a way that the 1.1/2.0 modems will see the one channel and use it while 3.0 modems will take advantage of the full spectrum.
That is the simple answer.
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But boy, when it does in say the corporate HQ town of Comcast, Time Warner, or Cablevision's backyard for that matter.. I can just hear the orders fly..
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| Fiber is liberating Whether from Verizon or other FTTH providers like Paxio (»www.paxio.com) I can tell you that fiber is a whole new experience when surfing at home. True, you find out just how slow the servers are on the other end but sometimes you are just amazed at how fast that Linux distro just downloaded.
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Same Old Jets
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join:2007-03-07
Argyle, TX
| GPON Central Office Architecture Here's a good article that will give you an idea what is going to be happening changing from BPON to GPON inside Verizon's central offices....
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emixnem
Dill Dough
join:2000-10-16
Reno, NV | gpon so it goes from bpon to gpon .. whats after gpon, anyone?
and how much faster is it than the former. | |
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PGHammer
join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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·Comcast
| Re: gpon I have no idea how fast BPON is; however, another related GPON thread has some rather surprising factoids and infobits:
1. GPON is actually *less* equipment-intensive than BPON at the CO/wirecenter level.
2. GPON results in lower electric bills than BPON.
3. GPON has longer range than BPON.
4. The largest planned GPON installation/upgrade in the world is.....in the US (specifically, the VZ FIOS Network, which will be all-GPON).
And when I mean lower electric bills, I mean at the CO/wirecenter level. The thread discusses a 16,000-subscriber wirecenter/CO (such an example exists: Indian Head, MD is a CO/wirecenter of exactly this size). A typical CO uses 67 kW of electricity on a monthly basis to service those 16,000 subs with a point-to-point (typical copper, BPON or EPON) network. GPON requires only 4.8 kW to service the same number of customers; even scarier, it services the same number of customers while requiring a mere *one percent* of the rack space (one square meter vs. one hundred square meters). The larger the CO, the greater the savings. | |
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Quahog
join:2002-10-26
South Paris, ME
·Great Works Internet
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | Re: gpon To all those who can get FIOS or who will be getting it soon. Damn am I jealous !!
I live in broadband no mans land otherwise known as Maine.
We won't be seeing FTTP here for quite sometime if at all unless a third party telco offers it. We are a VZ territory but not for much longer. I laugh and cry at the thought of fairpoint NE buying VZ out.
As for WDM I used to work for LVLT (Level 3) in cambridge Mass and we were doing some amazing things with the technology and this was 7 years ago. WDM over an OC768 circuit was incredible. | |
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WhyZeeGuy
Premium
join:2004-06-06
Addison, TX
2 edits | Lewisville Why Lewisville? I live in Flower Mound, next to Lewisville and because of the demographics it would make more sense to upgrade Flower Mound rather than Lewisville. There are 4 telecommuters on my street alone, and probably 25 or so in my subdivision. I bet my subdivision has more telecommuters and potential clients than all of Lewisville combined 
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