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How nice of Verizon....They were really looking out for US when doubling the ETF | |
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openbox9
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2010-Jan-20 10:05 am
Re: How nice of Verizon....Why exactly would you expect them to look out for you? It's business. Don't like it, then don't buy it | |
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Re: How nice of Verizon....said by openbox9:Why exactly would you expect them to look out for you? It's business. Don't like it, then don't buy it I don't expect anything from them. I am just responding to what they are telling me. It's sweet they have me and other customers in mind when doubling the ETF. Real sweet | |
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Re: How nice of Verizon....Theres an easy way to beat the ETF. Any way I cancelled my droid and it's data plan, unfortunately my wife loves hers so I left it active. $40 less they will be getting from me. I'll put my droid on ebay for $200 and I broke even. Im thinking of going to a prepaid provider and gsm phone. I am so tired of being screwed around by these companies for every little dime , especially in a bad economy. | |
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said by openbox9:Why exactly would you expect them to look out for you? It's business. Don't like it, then don't buy it That's not how business works. Capitalism has always been about competitive markets, and without it there's no incentive for a business to actually cater to its customers' wishes. | |
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openbox9
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2010-Jan-21 2:31 pm
Re: How nice of Verizon....Perhaps you didn't read my post. I merely wrote it's business and that if someone doesn't like the company with which they are doing business, the option exists for them to not do business with that company. | |
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to Bill Neilson
We need to divorce the phone manufactures from the service providers to spur competition and lower hardware prices. I would like to be able to go to Walmart, Target or wherever and buy a phone, then at my leisure decide which provider to use.
For the record I don't like it and I haven't bought it. In the same way the internet began and evolved based on standards so too should cellular. | |
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Re: How nice of Verizon....Competition seems to always bring us the lowest prices possible
More reason we see less and less of it | |
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BCSman
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2010-Jan-20 9:30 am
Reality bitesWe have to accept that Verizon along with the majority of large corporations are not interested in the welfare or what is fair or right or moral. The bottom line ROI is all that matters and they will do whatever it takes to increase that ROI. Our politicans won't do anything because they would be biting the hand that feeds them so to speak. Welcome to the 21st century. | |
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FFH5
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2010-Jan-20 12:40 pm
Re: Reality bitessaid by BCSman :
The bottom line ROI is all that matters and they will do whatever it takes to increase that ROI. They are in business to make money - NOT better mankind. We can leave that claim to lying politicians. » Fewer Verizon Phones Will Incur New $350 ETF [24] commentsDespite calling Verizon's answers to their inquiry "unsatisfying" and "in some cases, troubling," there's no indication the FCC's going to take any action. And why should they? Verizon isn't a monopoly and the gov't should stay out of pricing decisions. | |
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Re: Reality bitessaid by FFH5:said by BCSman :
The bottom line ROI is all that matters and they will do whatever it takes to increase that ROI. They are in business to make money - NOT better mankind. We can leave that claim to lying politicians. » Fewer Verizon Phones Will Incur New $350 ETF [24] commentsDespite calling Verizon's answers to their inquiry "unsatisfying" and "in some cases, troubling," there's no indication the FCC's going to take any action. And why should they? Verizon isn't a monopoly and the gov't should stay out of pricing decisions. Because the government, empowered by the people, provides these corporations with various legal and physical protections that they couldn't otherwise afford by themselves. Businesses are allowed to operate in a capitalistic environment under the implicit assumption that thisl will benefit society more than any other system. | |
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33358088 (banned)
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2010-Jan-20 9:38 am
350? why not 1000000000000then those pesky kids will never leave us
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iansltx
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2010-Jan-20 12:45 pm
Re: 350? why not 1000000000000Because they'll never join in the first place. | |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD 1 edit
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pnh102
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2010-Jan-20 9:40 am
As Usual, FCC Blows ItThe higher ETF is not the big problem here. Most people can easily dodge payment of an ETF by either buying a phone outright or by verifying that their service is acceptable before the cooling off period for a phone purchase expires (and as a result not having a need to cancel the service).
The FCC needs to instead look at the hidden fees that phone companies are allowed to tack onto bills. Unlike the ETF, none of these fees are disclosed to consumers ahead of time so a customer has no idea that their $40 a month plan is really a $50 a month plan. The costs of these fees should be included in the advertised price of the service.
I'd even dare claim that the costs of hidden fees are far higher than the ETFs that most people DON'T pay. | |
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Re: As Usual, FCC Blows ItHow about the FCC just ignore all of it aside from a few tersely worded press releases? Because I believe that's what we'll be getting. The use of unfees to jack up prices beyond the advertised price has been a problem for years -- but there's never any traction on the issue. | |
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pnh102
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2010-Jan-20 10:19 am
Re: As Usual, FCC Blows Itsaid by Karl Bode:How about the FCC just ignore all of it aside from a few tersely worded press releases? Because I believe that's what we'll be getting. The use of unfees to jack up prices beyond the advertised price has been a problem for years -- but there's never any traction on the issue. The funny part being that certain cell phone companies will simply deny these fees exist to begin with. | |
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i1me2ao
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2010-Jan-20 6:24 pm
Re: As Usual, FCC Blows Itcall and ask and you get run arounds because no one will say.. | |
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to pnh102
Agreed...
I was recently looking to make some changes to my verizon wireless account, and I went through several customer service representatives (online and on the phone). They COULD NOT EVEN GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE of the taxes + fees. I believe the online chat representative even told me that "it will be on my bill."
IMHO, the part that really needs investigating here are the "fees". These are added to every bill to "help recover" costs that the carrier has to pay for providing you service. The fact that they are allowed to ADVERTISE service at one price, and then arbitrarily add fees onto your bill is completely wrong. | |
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Agreed. I'm out of contract on my Sprint plan at this point, so there's absolutely no possibility of me paying an ETF to switch carriers. However what I DO pay is about $7 in junk fees on my $30 +plus insurance plus TeleNav) plan. Which kinda sucks. I'd honestly rather the plan be advertised as $36.99 and billed that way as well, a la what MetroPCS is doing now. | |
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podstolom
Anon
2010-Jan-20 9:48 am
High ETF'sI find the lack of moral terpitude shown by shameless American Corporate Capitalist Opportunism reprehensible, despicable and morally repugnant. Since the essentially unregulated private sector is the dominant economic force in this country, "they do it because they can". | |
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FFH5
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2010-Jan-20 12:45 pm
Re: High ETF'ssaid by podstolom :
I find the lack of moral terpitude shown by shameless American Corporate Capitalist Opportunism . I applaud your observation that corporations show a complete lack of moral terpitude. turpitude - » www.thefreedictionary.co ··· urpitudea corrupt or depraved or degenerate act or practice | |
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Re: High ETF'ssaid by FFH5:said by podstolom :
I find the lack of moral terpitude shown by shameless American Corporate Capitalist Opportunism . I applaud your observation that corporations show a complete lack of moral terpitude. turpitude - » www.thefreedictionary.co ··· urpitudea corrupt or depraved or degenerate act or practice Ouch. You insulted his intelligence...by pointing out a misspelling. Ouch buddy. Ouch. | |
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Again... It's the network my assI'd find it hard to believe in most metropolitan areas that Verizon is the only carrier with acceptable coverage.
People take it up the ass 'cause they wanna. | |
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iansltx
Member
2010-Jan-20 12:48 pm
Going in the right directionSmartphones are the only phones that are havily subsidized by Verizon. As such, they should be the only ones with higher ETFs. Oh, and netbooks, but who wants to buy a netbook on a 2-year contract with VZW MBB? Show of hands? Me either. | |
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