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Atlanta, GA | Comcast DVR is already $12.95 The price for the Comcast DVR, in the Atlanta market, was raised to $12.95 on January 01, 2007. | |
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Looking forward to the future of things.
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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| Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 And in our area the DVR price was raised from $9.95 a month to $11.95 a month in January. I haven't heard any signs of it being raised another dollar to match the $12.95 that is talked about here. I bet next January we'll go up to the $14.95-$16.95 range to offset the expensive Cable Card box costs.
Say... how much more was that Comcast/Tivo supposed to be? Looks like it will be near $19.95/month if not more. | |
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join:2000-08-24
Berlin, CT
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| Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 said by pandora  :My Dish Network DVR price continues as it has been for many years, $0. I like it that way. pls x-plain | |
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1 edit | There is no Dish Network DVR fee for DVR models 508 and earlier.
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| Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 said by pandora :I have several dish DVR model 508's. There is no Dish Network DVR fee for DVR models 508 and earlier. Cool. Sounds like s great deal to me.
Is there anyway a new subscriber can get this deal? I want to loose comcrap. | |
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1 edit | Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95said by RipRap :said by pandora :I have several dish DVR model 508's. There is no Dish Network DVR fee for DVR models 508 and earlier. Cool. Sounds like s great deal to me. Is there anyway a new subscriber can get this deal? I want to loose comcrap. I think the only DVR 508's on sale are from EBAY or Craigs list now.
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| Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 said by pandora :said by RipRap :said by pandora :I have several dish DVR model 508's. There is no Dish Network DVR fee for DVR models 508 and earlier. Cool. Sounds like s great deal to me. Is there anyway a new subscriber can get this deal? I want to loose comcrap. I think the only DVR 508's on sale are from EBAY now, years ago I bought mine new from Sears. Dish Network still enables them, and will replace one if it is defective or has problems. They are supported, and software is updated regularly. The DVR 500, 508, and 510 are all the same, except for hard drive size, and the DVR having a monthly DVR fee. The 508 is an aging product, it is standard 4x3, and holds up to 80GB, some hack them to get larger hard drives but that voids the warranty. Though it is nice to have no DVR fee, I really am happy to have avoided it for so many years. Saving the DVR fee month after month adds up over a few years. Ok, so even if I get one of the DVRs you mention, I will still have to pay a DVR fee? I would also like to NOT PAY the DVR fee. How can I do that?
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YeeHaw
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cloud 9 | Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 If you buy a 508, 501, 7100, or 7200, there is no DVR fee. If you buy any other model DVR, then there would be. | |
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2 edits | said by RipRap :Ok, so even if I get one of the DVRs you mention, I will still have to pay a DVR fee? I would also like to NOT PAY the DVR fee. How can I do that? BTW, TYVM for all of your answers to my questions. No it isn't a DVR fee. There is and has always been a fee for more than 1 receiver. DVR 508's and earlier are considered as receivers.
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1 edit | I have dishnetwork and i'm paying 9.98 a month for the DVR service | |
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Coshocton, OH | Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 625 | |
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Coshocton, OH | Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 If dish raises the price i'll go back to vcrs | |
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Coshocton, OH | I have dishnetwork and i'm paying 9.98 a month for the DVR service | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Comcast DVR is already $12.95 they break out the cost for the remote...? Holy shit I'm glad I don't have to use TWC. What a bunch of assholes.
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| Crap costs baby. quote:
Verizon has since raised its rates for new customers by 7.6 percent. And RCN, the third company that offers cable television service in Montgomery, raised its base price last month by 15 percent.
So much for the idea that "competition will bring down rates," said Montgomery County Council President Marilyn Praisner (D-Eastern County), who has long clashed with the industry over regulation. "That clearly hasn't happened."
Oddly enough.. programming and content prices DO increase. Even for the prodigal son, FIOS! Im not sure how people do not realize that content costs a boatload of money.
Now here comes the Ala Cart clammering, but if you just paid for what you wanted the price would be insane.
They can control the costs somewhat of Broadband.. but programming rates will go up every year without exception, because the programmers raise their price every year.. without exception.
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clubs: | Re: Crap costs baby. reasonably priced a la carte is already possible, just look at big dish offerings. how are they able to do it but somehow it is impossible for cable to even attempt this? cable just doesn't want to. period. | |
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My views are my own.
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| Re: Crap costs baby. Sorry to say, but if you call that Big Dish pricing reasonable.. I'd be willing to start my own satellite company.. would you bring your like minded friends? 
The prices, in some cases, may be slightly cheaper, but if you dig into it more, they really are much more expensive.
You also, with big dish, bear ALL the costs of hardware which does play some in their pricing. Add that to your total cost of ownership and big dish is not a good deal at all.
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join:2005-05-22
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IF you only have one television, and IF you are only interested in a select group of channels and IF you don't go great gonzo on the purchase of the antenna and receiver, a C band installation is cheaper. Marginally. But that is rapidly vanishing because you now need not only a receiver that does Videocipher, but more and more you need to have an mpeg capable receiver as well.
I think the great attraction is still being able to wander around and pick up different things. But now I have access to hundreds more stuff and there's still nothing on. | |
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| Fiberguy do you have an inkling of what you are talking about?
Blank comments like this amaze me, "The prices, in some cases, may be slightly cheaper, but if you dig into it more, they really are much more expensive." Hell you sound like you work for or represent a cable pigopoly. They told me for years that I would not get dish reception in storms although their rlocal feeds are sat based, lol. They told me I would have to have 2 phone lines for dsl, lol.
Anyways back to the point, proof is in the pudding. Great Lakes area cable minus dvr was 76.95 per month digital and expanded basic through Charter's headache of a service they called cable tv. Dishnetwork charges me 54.99 a month for Americas top 120. NO HARDWARE costs! I have also made about $450.00 bucks by referring friends. That is nine people I have referred and THEY ALL LOVE IT! Cable is so passe'
That's more than a little savings there Fiberguy.
All I can say is that I would be willing to pay 75.00 a month for the superior service I get from DishNet. Sheesh now I sound like a Dish rep, lol. The dvr is AWESOME! My wife and grandparents can figure it out.
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clubs: | Re: Crap costs baby. For my use DirecTV would have cost just has much or more then Comcast then I would have to Pay about $700.00 to lease a dvr plus Dvr fee. Dish was out of the queston as the cost was to much.
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join:2003-11-20
Troutdale, OR | What do you think will happen to those "reasonable" prices when the content companies lose tons of money when the vast majority of watchers switches to ala carte. People who support ala carte really have no clue the ramifications of a switch. | |
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join:2004-04-14
Portland, OR
| Re: Crap costs baby. this has been covered countless times and was even agreed upon by the FCC until Mr. Martin the Anti-Cable witch took over. Programming costs WILL go up if Ala Carte replaces the current system. Consider this: most programmers own multiple stations. MSO's receive discounts on contracts by carrying all of the programmers networks. MSO's also receive discounts by placing networks on certain tiers. It guarantees a certain amount of eyes which helps the programmers sell advertising on those networks. If the programmers can't guarantee those same viewers because the network isn't on the standard cable package anymore the costs for that channel will go up. Those costs will be passed straight on the consumer. You might pay $1/mo out of your current cable bill for ESPN now, but if Ala Carte takes over you could pay $10/mo for it (I'm only using those figures as an example, they don't necessarily represent true costs). So for $50/mo now you get 70 channels, but with ala carte you get 10 channels for $50 or $60, depending on your chosen networks. Plus, all of the variety we currently have could go away if networks can't keep advertisers and don't have a large viewing audience now. Wave goodbye to niche programming.
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| Montgomery Cnty.MD reaps what they sow Montgomery Cnty.MD reaps what they sow. This jurisdiction continues to add on layers of regulation and costs thru guaranteed service times and fines and other demands. And then they are surprised the costs go up?? And since it isn't one provider, but all three, it is obvious the pols there have no idea about economics.
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clubs: | Re: Montgomery Cnty.MD reaps what they sow Are these increases only in Montgomery County MD, or are they everywhere? | |
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1 edit | Re: Montgomery Cnty.MD reaps what they sow said by JTRockville :Are these increases only in Montgomery County MD, or are they everywhere? Rates go up everywhere as someone else posted here because of increasing programming costs. But Montgomery Cnty, MD is seeing larger increases because of their pols decisions concerning minimum service requirements, PEG channels, fines, etc. They can be seen as defending service quality and looking out for their constituents, but their decisions do result in increasing costs. And as we all know, increasing costs will result in increasing fees.
I am sure the pols think that the increased costs should be eaten by the ISPs and spread to other jurisdictions not so enlightened as their own. But that isn't how it works. Especially, at least for RCN & Comcast, because they are MSO(multi system operators) where each area has its own management and budgets and profit goals to meet.
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clubs: | Re: Montgomery Cnty.MD reaps what they sow From the article, it looks like the increase in Comcast's prices for DVRs are the same regardless of where you live. Do you have pricing that shows otherwise? | |
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| Re: Crap costs baby. said by CableTool :Oddly enough.. programming and content prices DO increase. Even for the prodigal son, FIOS! Im not sure how people do not realize that content costs a boatload of money. What does the increase in the DVR fee have to do with content and programming costs? They are separate animals. | |
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| Re: Crap costs baby. said by LostInWoods :said by CableTool :Oddly enough.. programming and content prices DO increase. Even for the prodigal son, FIOS! Im not sure how people do not realize that content costs a boatload of money. What does the increase in the DVR fee have to do with content and programming costs? They are separate animals. Not really. The DVR, while a slow money making retention tool, eventually is to help offset the cost of rising programming. Just like caller ID for the phone company(at $7 per month per line which cost them pennies to offer) is a way to grab extra profits to subsidize the real cost of telephone service. The DVR is the same. It takes a few years for each DVR to start actually making money. Everything is profit and if you knew the profit margin of basic cable, you'd see why the extra services are priced the way they are.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Crap costs baby. CID costs extra on land lines because people will pay it, yet it comes with cell phones. kinda odd.
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| said by LostInWoods :said by CableTool :Oddly enough.. programming and content prices DO increase. Even for the prodigal son, FIOS! Im not sure how people do not realize that content costs a boatload of money. What does the increase in the DVR fee have to do with content and programming costs? They are separate animals. Not when you're paying really for the programming and your provider is saying its free and just the box ala cox.
the boxes were bought at a certain price and dont go up in price once they're bought. the programming however does and thats why box fees go up.
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join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD
| I understand that rates will go up...What I have a problem with is the "rental fee" on the hardware rises and rises and they don't give us the option of getting our own hardware. Like with my HSI I have the service but I got my own modem. It is been just fine. Comcast is dragging their heels with getting TIVO compatible with their TV service. | |
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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA | This is a joke right? $16 a month for a DVR fee?! | |
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join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | Re: This is a joke right? That was sort of my take on it; they have to be kidding me.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
| said by Pictor Guy :$16 a month for a DVR fee?! Ooooooooh NO. thats just for the hardware charge. dont forget the $5 DVR service fee then the digital gateway fee.
does verizon market the HD as "free" too like cox does only to jack the box price so they can say their HD is free?
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Newport, KY | I have 3 DVR's with DirecTV and I pay $5.99 total. Of the credits I get each month DVR is not one of them. With DirecTV you pay one DVR fee and that covers all boxes in your house. | |
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N3OGH
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Philly burbs
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| new prices "reflect the value of the service." ... Not really.
I do use my DVR, but not enough to justify $15 a month.
IMHO, this service has reached the tipping point in price.
I like TV as much as the next guy, but $15/mo just to record shit off the TV??
Naa.....
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: new prices "reflect the value of the service." ... I agree... I'm on DTV, and there's no way I'll pay that kind of $$$ for a DVR, even if its a whole house DVR.
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| Re: new prices "reflect the value of the service." ... Honestly, I'm not trying to change your minds or opinions, but you do realize that this is the price of a Tivo service, right?
So, if you're against Tivo too, I'm with ya. 
Take the Tivo $9.95 best price up to the $15.00 price, plus the cost of hardware, etc.. at $12.95 per month, even $15.95 a month, it's still a better deal, for most, if you compared the two.
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Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | Re: new prices "reflect the value of the service." ... I'm not leaving it for TiVO, either.
I don't think TiVO is worth $15/mo
I would rather join Netfilx for that kind of money...
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| Re: new prices "reflect the value of the service." ... said by N3OGH :I would rather join Netfilx for that kind of money... Can Netflix rush me the Yankees game from tonight...I will be home in 30 minutes?
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clubs: | at that price, just go TiVo when the cost of DVR is at the $13-$16 a month level, why would anyone choose the clunky incumbent versions over TiVo? lower cost is the biggest thing these guys have going for them. | |
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CopperMux
join:2005-01-18 | $16 just too steep Returned 3 boxes to Comcast, the HD DVR @ $16 a month was too much and the other boxes were no longer needed. Nice savings. | |
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join:2002-10-22
Chicago, IL | Wow Dish costs like $6 a month for the DVR fee. I have the DVR advantage + HD which gives me AT200, locals, and DVR fee for $50 a month flat. Add $20 for HD. I can't believe anyone would pay $16 a month just for the DVR! | |
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@rr.com | in defense Verizon's DVR includes the HD channels at no additional charge. There are also plans for a non hd dvr that would rent cheaper. | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| And Piracy rates will climb. Piracy rates will now climb even higher. Costs go up like this more people feel they deserve free stuff.
I look forward to the onslaught of Chinese made PCI tuners which will support atsc/ntsc, QAM, digital cable and switched digital, no on demand, no big deal, no ppv, no big deal.
Lets see $400 for a media center pc and prices dropping it can be made cheaper. $80 500 gig drives. Oh yeah I see the pc replacing the set top box real soon.
Oh yeah I will laugh my ass off when they make knock offs of the cable card based PCI tuners. Look at the iphone knock off.
I for one welcome our new Chinese, technology cloning, overlords.
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@nextweb.net | Of course the cable shills will justify yet another hike This one a hefty 30% increase.
Comcast continues their endless assault on subscribers with unjustifiable 3-5X inflation yearly price increases.
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join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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| Re: Of course the cable shills will justify yet another hike Actually, this time I have to agree with the cable companies that the rate hike is, in fact, justified: with very few exceptions, the cable companies have been forced to change their STBs from integrated-security to a separated-security model *ahead* of their planned schedule. Worse, they were forced to do it because the original market force both they and the FCC had been relying on (the Consumer Electronics Association, or CEA) badly fumbled the integration of the agreed-upon mechanism (CableCARD) into TVs and other non-cable-company equipments (such as consumer DVRs). TANSTAAFL, people (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, from "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress"); those unexpected costs *have* to be recovered somehow, and because most cable companies are for-profit businesses, those costs will invariably be passed on to the customer (even the few muni-owned cable companies will be raising their fees for the same reason).
Do you seriously expect a for-profit business to eat unplanned, unexpected, and unwelcome mandates willy-nilly any more than the state and local governments do? (When state or local governments are forced to accept additional responsibilities by the national government, those costs are also passed on to the consumers in the form of new and/or higher taxes and fees/fines/etc.; why would a for-profit be any different?) | |
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| is there a pricepoint they will be happy with? I currently pay $167 for Comcast Triple Play + HBO/Showtime, the HDTV Premier Tier,8Mb HSI and the HD-DVR.
With no contract, AT&T/FiOS looming and DirecTV's plethora of HD Lite I am not afraid to make changes... I hope they are getting close to the pricepoint they are happy with
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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| DVR fees are a ripoff.... ... these arguments that "Content costs" and programmings costs are a RED HERRING because those costs are already built into the costs of the cable service!
I could see VERY small charge for providing up-to-date guide and programming information to DVR owners, but the rest is PURE PROFIT taking.
Well, the good news is, as the gouging grows worse, more people will move to 3rd party solutions like MythTV etc where they won't have to pay any of these BS fees.
I love my ReplayTV.
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join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | competition... ....Does the opposite of what you would expect. | |
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North Andover, MA | Re: competition... Competition? Where?! {looks left, right}
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Morristown, NJ
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| said by neftv :....Does the opposite of what you would expect. It's not competition, it's a duopoly.
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join:2000-10-24
Harrisburg, PA | Re: competition... Can we just make are own DVR??
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cdbma
join:2003-01-19
Bolton, MA
| back to the future? duopoly? monopoly? ridiculous fees? price hikes?
hmmm, I've heard this before! Maybe the feds will step in, break them up and voila! - in 10 years they'll all be back together!
Fortunately, in a competitive, free society, greed doesn't usually win out in the long run. People need to vote with their wallets. If you cancel the service (I realize this is not easy), then the price hikes backfire (yea, that "elasticity" thing we all learned about in economics). I vote with my analog TV and analog cable. They get $52/month from me for that and that's enough. | |
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| When they ask for you to become a customer! When they ask you to be a customer, say NO because of their high rates... you have the power to NOT SPEND THE MONEY.
To the extent that you can, download content and pay companies who are not constantly hiking rates even before year's end. As for FIOS TV they can stick that wavelength of fiber where the sun don't shine.. | |
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delt4
17 years ... still waiting
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join:2000-07-13
Pittsburgh, PA
·Comcast
| Value of service? As stated "Both companies state the new prices "reflect the value of the service."
Yeah right. Is that why I got a post card from Comcast telling me how some channels were being moved off the programming list? First an increase in price and a decrease in programming. Some value that is. | |
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join:2003-10-14
Garrettsville, OH
| i pay... I pay 9.95 a month for directv HD DVR service, 200 hours of standard definition recording, 100 hours of HD recording. I love it. Its a good price i think, if it goes up to 16 or something ridiculous like that, ill cancel it, but i like the way it is now and hope it doesn't go up. . | |
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