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FiOSTV Hits NYC
Along with 100HD channels
by Karl Bode 08:45AM Monday Jul 28 2008 Tipped by MrSpock29 See Profile
Forum posters had hinted as much, but now it's official: Verizon has bumped their FiOSTV HD channel count and now offers 100HD channels in the New York area, something they claim is more than Time Warner or Cablevision. The announcement comes as Verizon is conducting a public relations extravaganza this morning in NYC's Grand Central Station to announce FiOSTV's arrival in New York. This press release lists all 108 city neighborhoods that can now get FiOS TV. Verizon will have a webcast available at 11 am EST at this URL.

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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:4

11a EDT for webcast

Seems like the webcast will begin at 11a EDT if the current webcast feed is to be believed.

FFH
Premium
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Tavistock NJ
kudos:5

Re: 11a EDT for webcast

said by darcilicious:

Seems like the webcast will begin at 11a EDT if the current webcast feed is to be believed.
You can watch the archived video here:
»www.verizonwebcasts.com/vzt/0832···et2.html
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kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: 11a EDT for webcast

said by FFH:

said by darcilicious:

Seems like the webcast will begin at 11a EDT if the current webcast feed is to be believed.
You can watch the archived video here:
»www.verizonwebcasts.com/vzt/0832···et2.html
OMG, it's HORRIBLE - like those utterly hilarious Communist propaganda discussions, back in my childhood!

Sometimes it really seems this US system is just Communism turned upside down.
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Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:23

Time Warner + Cablevision = screwed

Now that Verizon has as much HD channels as the satellite guys in NYC, and not to mention faster internet and a franchise, Time Warner and Cablevision are pretty much screwed unless they push DOCSIS 3.0 deployment, and move to digital.
nh5

join:2006-01-21
Old Bethpage, NY

Re: Time Warner + Cablevision = screwed

I wonder what the door to door cable guys will say now to regain customers. LOL GO VZ! Lets hit 150 now.
MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ
said by Smith6612:

Now that Verizon has as much HD channels as the satellite guys in NYC, and not to mention faster internet and a franchise, Time Warner and Cablevision are pretty much screwed unless they push DOCSIS 3.0 deployment, and move to digital.
And TW would have to hold off on caps there too.
Natoma6

join:1999-08-30
Brooklyn, NY
I already have 50mb/20mb FIOS. As soon as FIOS TV is available in my building I'm switching to that as well. Timewarner Cable sucks.
dlr_graph

join:2002-02-03
Elizabeth, NJ
I don't see "thousands" jumping ship yet when Verizon never makes the fees available. I don't know why I have to live in area serviced by them to see how much the services will cost. Also they don't make information available as to how much they will screw you for after the year term is over.

Aside from this the only information I have seen related to internet cost is at least 3 times as much as what OOL charges for the same speed. In addition are these 100 HD channels individual channels or are multiple feeds of the same channels? Can anyone share information related to their fees in order to make a fair comparison?
njcellfreak

join:2006-12-28
Union City, NJ
said by Smith6612:

Now that Verizon has as much HD channels as the satellite guys in NYC, and not to mention faster internet and a franchise, Time Warner and Cablevision are pretty much screwed unless they push DOCSIS 3.0 deployment, and move to digital.
Right I see utter chaos right now as we speak. Millions all over the city are flocking to Verizon Fios!!!! It's avaialble everywhere! Whooo hoooooo. Even Joe Schmoe at his 22nd floor apartment in the South Bronx can get Fios!!! Wowee!! Cablevision and Time Warner have filed for bankruptcy. Verizon is taking over the world!

Bobcat79
Premium
join:2001-02-04

Grand Central TERMINAL

Karl, it's Grand Central TERMINAL. Grand Central Station is an entirely different place (it's a post office).
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Grand Central TERMINAL

Karl doesnt care. he's been corrected before but only when he feels like fixing the article will he do it.
EPS4

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
Perhaps Verizon is holding the event in the original Grand Central Station? Granted, this would require time travel back to 1900.

bpm

@adome.net

Re: Grand Central TERMINAL

On Verizon's system when you order service there they list the terminal as Grand Central Sta. Go figure

Anon5364

@mindspring.com

CANCEL!

I wonder how many ppl will cancel their TV service with TWC and Cablevision today or later this month, will it be hundreds or Thousands, I'm hoping that is Thousands Just soo the cable company can shit their pants

anon2007

@sbcglobal.net

Re: CANCEL!

said by Anon5364 :

I wonder how many ppl will cancel their TV service with TWC and Cablevision today or later this month, will it be hundreds or Thousands, I'm hoping that is Thousands Just soo the cable company can shit their pants
Cable companies will have to adapt fast or they will perish. I wouldn't count them out just yet. I can see DOSCIS3 over fiber somewhere in the future... it is inevitable.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: CANCEL!

said by anon2007 :

Cable companies will have to adapt fast or they will perish.
Wrong, people were saying OTA TV will perish when Cable was introduced. Same thing with FIOS. Cable companies can afford to undercut FIOS. Some people will go for the worse, cheaper service (cable) rather than the best and most expensive.
njcellfreak

join:2006-12-28
Union City, NJ

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said by Anon5364 :

I wonder how many ppl will cancel their TV service with TWC and Cablevision today or later this month, will it be hundreds or Thousands, I'm hoping that is Thousands Just soo the cable company can shit their pants
Cancel? How can they cancel when the service isn't available in most places in NYC yet which primarly consist of multiple dwellings??!!!! What service are they gonna cancel to, HughesNet Satellite internet? LMAO

Cable companies shiting in their pants? LMAO Okay yeah, Verizon Fios is available in all 5 boroughs of NYC and every Tom Dick and Harry can order it right? Oh yeah I'm sure TWC and Cablevision are petrified. Give me a f*ckin break. You fanboys don't get it. It's NOT FUCKING AVAILABLE YET! Especially in places that matter. By the time Verizon finishes cherry picking and deploying the service in the areas they want, it will be 20 years or more.

Let's see Verizon deploy area like Canarsie and East New York Brooklyn. Or places like the South Bronx. Houses dont count. No, lets see them deploy 20+ story buildings which there are a shit load of in the 5 boroughs of NYC. Let's see them deploy Co-Op City in the Bronx or it's distant cousin Starrett City in Brooklyn. Then you know what, I'd actually start taking them seriously and so should Cablevision but until then, it's all bull$hit that Verizon is spewing.

Not for nothing but I'd be first in line if Verizon offered Fios in my hood but you know what, it just isn't so and wont be for many years. By then the cable companies would have well caught up and not many will give two shit anymore. The novelty will be gone and Fios will just be another form of provider offering cable, internet and telephone service. Not anymore special then the cables companies who have offered it years before them

JSY
Premium
join:2000-04-05
Elmhurst, NY

Just in time for the Verizon strike next month...

Just kidding... Well, I'm hoping for some real competition here. I'm not so enthused by Verizon only because as they gain customers from TWC and become bigger and bigger in NYC - I have every reason to believe that their customer service will be as mediocre as TWC. I am really hoping, though, that the competition brings down the prices and improves the service because the way it is with satellite and TWC now is that while they both are "competitive" - their prices and service are almost the same. When one jacks up the price, so does the other. Maybe with FiOS being more widely available to those people in MUDs that don't have access to satellite will bring a real change and competition.

This whole rollout doesn't even affect my neighborhood probably for a few more years, but if I can benefit from price competition, it will make me happy enough.

(I have TWCNYC and Dish Network right now. - glutton for punishment)

Ps. It seems like all the Queens communities that have FiOS now are all closer to the Nassau County border with perhaps the exception of Whitestone. How about giving some access to the people on the East River side... People in Astoria don't have it, but people across the river in the Upper East Side do.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: Just in time for the Verizon strike next month...

said by JSY:

Ps. It seems like all the Queens communities that have FiOS now are all closer to the Nassau County border with perhaps the exception of Whitestone. How about giving some access to the people on the East River side... People in Astoria don't have it, but people across the river in the Upper East Side do.
Its called redlining. I wouldn't say all of the Upper East Side has it. Only a handful of buildings.

JSY
Premium
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Elmhurst, NY

Re: Just in time for the Verizon strike next month...

said by patcat88 See ProfileIts called redlining. I wouldn't say all of the Upper East Side has it. Only a handful of buildings.
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I know what it's called. I was saying that it would have been nice if they redlined it a little differently - considering that the Queens areas that are getting it are all basically close to areas that have already had FiOS.
Mark F1

join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN

Brevity, Thy Name Is Verizon

Maybe we shouldn't read anything into it, but, it's the shortest Q&A session I've heard in quite a while. Mark F

rit56

join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
Reviews:
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Verizon is Lying to it's Customers

When I go to their site to specifically see if Verizon FIOS is available in my area it does not say no. It instead directs me to a bundle of their slow, bullshit dsl plus Direct TV. Fix your web site Verizon. I want to know if FIOS is available in my area and not be offered a DSL Direct TV bundle..I switched to TWC because your dsl service is terrible and you're not doing yourself any favors when a PC (potential customer) goes to your web site and clicks the link specifically labeled to see if I can get FIOS and you offer me a bundle of slow dsl and Direct TV. Your web site says to check here to see if FIOS is available. Stop lying to your customers.

roberto2394

@verizon.net

Re: Verizon is Lying to it's Customers

no one is lying to you. if it was available, do u think they would offer you dsl and directv?

calm down and be patient...it will come

said by rit56:

When I go to their site to specifically see if Verizon FIOS is available in my area it does not say no. It instead directs me to a bundle of their slow, bullshit dsl plus Direct TV. Fix your web site Verizon. I want to know if FIOS is available in my area and not be offered a DSL Direct TV bundle..I switched to TWC because your dsl service is terrible and you're not doing yourself any favors when a PC (potential customer) goes to your web site and clicks the link specifically labeled to see if I can get FIOS and you offer me a bundle of slow dsl and Direct TV. Your web site says to check here to see if FIOS is available. Stop lying to your customers.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: Verizon is Lying to it's Customers

said by rit56:

When I go to their site to specifically see if Verizon FIOS is available in my area it does not say no. It instead directs me to a bundle of their slow, bullshit dsl plus Direct TV. Fix your web site Verizon. I want to know if FIOS is available in my area and not be offered a DSL Direct TV bundle..I switched to TWC because your dsl service is terrible and you're not doing yourself any favors when a PC (potential customer) goes to your web site and clicks the link specifically labeled to see if I can get FIOS and you offer me a bundle of slow dsl and Direct TV. Your web site says to check here to see if FIOS is available. Stop lying to your customers.
Most people have the intelligence of a 10 year old, and won't realize its satellite TV, and will forget its not supposed to be satellite TV by the time the installation comes.

NOCMan
MacChatter
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Colorado Springs, CO

What about those outside of New York

Texas would like to see some upgrades for once. I'm sure other locales would as well.

I see we get screwed to make a marketing point. Still what they call HD is not always HD. Just because it's blown up to match a set resolution does not mean it's HD.

Perhaps it's time to get the FCC to define HD so we get what were paying for.
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pL86

@cogentco.com

Reality Check

We should take a deep breath and be realistic. The list Verizon put out listing where FIOS is available is practically meaningless when it comes to apartment inhabitants, i.e. if you live in Manhattan. Whether you get can FIOS depends completely on whether your landlord or building owner has reached an agreement with Verizon to wire the building. Time Warner and Cablevision are going to rely on this inherent inertia; unfortunately, it's going to be YEARS before FIOS is deployed to the point where you can just assume that the building you're living in has it available.

I just stopped off the Verizon event at Grand Central Terminal. They're giving away free stuff like bags and also promotional stuff like channel guide. They also have notebooks where they will look up your address. The website they use is the same one publicly available online. Unfortunately, my building located in West Side/Midtown of Manhattan (57th and 11th Ave) isn't wired, even though it was only built 3 years ago. I wish my management company would do something but I'm not going to hold my breath.

mrlightman

@rr.com

Re: Reality Check

If they go on strike no one will see the light for a while.
speeddemon100

join:2001-02-18
West Hempstead, NY

How bout early term. fees....

I don't love twc, but i know if i move to an area it isnt avail (ie Long Island) i wont pay an early term fee. Fios has early term fees if you move.
ponistd

join:2004-01-04
Bethel Park, PA

Re: How bout early term. fees....

said by speeddemon100:

Fios has early term fees if you move.
Based on what the Verizon reps continue to tell me over the phone, the statement above is not true. Every FiOS representative I have talked to says that, if I were to move to an area that does not have FiOS, I would not be charged an early termination fee (ETF). The only time I would get charged the ETF is if I moved to an area where I could get FiOS and elected not to do so. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

This situation is of particular importance to me as I currently rent my place and do plan to move into a townhouse or house someday. Hopefully I won't have to move to an area that doesn't have FiOS, but if I do, Verizon had better not go back on its word and stick me with an ETF...
speeddemon100

join:2001-02-18
West Hempstead, NY

Re: How bout early term. fees....

I would want that in writing. After all going from 1 major monopoly (Time Warner) to another (Verizon), they could do whatever they want.
Side note: I read last night on Verizon's Fios' site that their Fios phone service is like TWC or Cablevision's - VoIP. The only reason I continue to keep an analog phone that isn't a cordless, is in situations like 9-11 or the 2003 blackout. 911 is still a fuzzy technology for VoIP, and cells don't work in situations like that.
MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

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Re: How bout early term. fees....

said by speeddemon100:

I would want that in writing. After all going from 1 major monopoly (Time Warner) to another (Verizon), they could do whatever they want.
Side note: I read last night on Verizon's Fios' site that their Fios phone service is like TWC or Cablevision's - VoIP. The only reason I continue to keep an analog phone that isn't a cordless, is in situations like 9-11 or the 2003 blackout. 911 is still a fuzzy technology for VoIP, and cells don't work in situations like that.
The ONT has an 8 hour battery backup.

outlaw contract

@maintech1.com
I wouldn't sign up for a contract any more. Forcing users to sign a contract is anticompetitive. Trying to get any qualify customer/tech services after you lock in is next to non-existence.

I just hope, when FIOS internet available in NYC, it will force TWC to increase it's speed. 10 is fine for me now, I just want them to increase the upload. Currently, TWC is 3x the speed of DSL, and same price. Actually, it's cheaper because there is no contract.

said by ponistd:

said by speeddemon100:

Fios has early term fees if you move.
Based on what the Verizon reps continue to tell me over the phone, the statement above is not true. Every FiOS representative I have talked to says that, if I were to move to an area that does not have FiOS, I would not be charged an early termination fee (ETF). The only time I would get charged the ETF is if I moved to an area where I could get FiOS and elected not to do so. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

This situation is of particular importance to me as I currently rent my place and do plan to move into a townhouse or house someday. Hopefully I won't have to move to an area that doesn't have FiOS, but if I do, Verizon had better not go back on its word and stick me with an ETF...