FiOSTV Tops In Satisfaction Survey Time Warner Cable customers most likely to defect... A new report by research firm Strategy Analytics pegs Verizon FiOSTV users as the most satisfied pay TV customers. The survey, which polled 842 US Digital Television subscribers during the second half of last year, found that 89% of FiOSTV customers were "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the service. In comparison, customers of AT&T's U-Verse, DirecTV or Dish Network came in with 80% of customers saying they were "somewhat" or "very" satisfied. Cable companies saw less positive rankings with a 72% rating Comcast, a 67% rating for Cox and a 65% satisfaction rating for Time Warner Cable. Loyalty is fleeting though: the survey found that about two-thirds of those polled would switch carriers with a price break of 20% or higher.
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But man, poll their BILLING and see how low their rating drops! -- Weeeeeeee! | |
|  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Love the picture I strongly disagree. I think the SD picture quality on my FIOS DVR is ATROCIOUS, while the HD picture is without question much better than cable. The problem is, the vast majority of programming is broadcast in SD so the overall FIOS TV experience is crap. I have heard they are going to release an upgrade to the firmware which 'should' improve the picture quality, but that rumor has been floating around for months...... -- When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. -Ronald Reagan-
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|  |  |  JeepMattC'mon the UPremium join:2001-12-28 Wilmington, DE kudos:2 | Re: Love the picture Wifi- You'll see it next month. | |
|  |  |  jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA | I don't think the FiOS SD picture quality looks that bad. It looks much better than it did with Comcast for me. (I know you disagree) I have only had FiOS for a little over 3 months, so I have never had any other build than the current one. It really only impacts SD pictures on HD TV's, and some particular models and settings contribute to varying degrees of performance. I don't watch too much SD programming, and very little content of any that I do watch is actually delivered in HD, but here's to hoping the March 1.62 build corrects this issue for you.
I do have an issue with the number of people queried for this poll's accuracy. I guarantee if Comcast subscribers in the Twin Cities were asked this same question, the results would be significantly higher. That said, the results of this 842 customer panel seem to be in line with other recent surveys about customer satisfaction, so who knows? Maybe it was just luck that the numbers are about the same for this poll?  | |
|  |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Love the picture said by jmn1207:I don't think the FiOS SD picture quality looks that bad. It looks much better than it did with Comcast for me. (I know you disagree) I have only had FiOS for a little over 3 months, so I have never had any other build than the current one. It really only impacts SD pictures on HD TV's, and some particular models and settings contribute to varying degrees of performance. I don't watch too much SD programming, and very little content of any that I do watch is actually delivered in HD, but here's to hoping the March 1.62 build corrects this issue for you. I agree that the SD picture quality problem is only evident on HD TVs, and only if you are using the FIOS DVR. I have a non DVR box in my bedroom with an old SD TV, and the picture quality there is great. I have also had the service for less than 3 months, so heres to hoping the 1.62 build fixes things! -- When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. -Ronald Reagan-
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|  |  |  |  JPLPremium join:2007-04-04 Downingtown, PA kudos:1 | said by jmn1207:I don't think the FiOS SD picture quality looks that bad. It looks much better than it did with Comcast for me. (I know you disagree) I have only had FiOS for a little over 3 months, so I have never had any other build than the current one. It really only impacts SD pictures on HD TV's, and some particular models and settings contribute to varying degrees of performance. I don't watch too much SD programming, and very little content of any that I do watch is actually delivered in HD, but here's to hoping the March 1.62 build corrects this issue for you. I do have an issue with the number of people queried for this poll's accuracy. I guarantee if Comcast subscribers in the Twin Cities were asked this same question, the results would be significantly higher. That said, the results of this 842 customer panel seem to be in line with other recent surveys about customer satisfaction, so who knows? Maybe it was just luck that the numbers are about the same for this poll? I agree with you on the SD PQ. One thing that keeps getting left out in this discussion is the fact that Verizon also managed to fix some of the video processing on their boxes with that release. For example, in the past, if I put my SD override to 480p or 'off' the mosquitoing I would get on some SD channels would drive me batty. I kept it at 480i as a result. Since they fixed that processing, I switched mine to 480p (they're right - the mosquitoing is totally gone) and the SD picture became almost as sharp as it was prior to this change.
BTW, the SD STBs still provide a picture that's as sharp as ever - the PQ I get on my two SD TVs (one with the QIP2500, one with the DCT700) is astounding.
As for this 'fix', it should correct things, because it'll allow you to adjust the same settings that Verizon messed with in the first place. And from what I understand, you'll even be able to shut them off, taking you right back to where they were before this change took place. | |
|  |  |  |  |  jammmin join:2000-12-14 Upper Marlboro, MD | Re: Love the picture said by JPL:said by jmn1207:I don't think the FiOS SD picture quality looks that bad. It looks much better than it did with Comcast for me. (I know you disagree) I have only had FiOS for a little over 3 months, so I have never had any other build than the current one. It really only impacts SD pictures on HD TV's, and some particular models and settings contribute to varying degrees of performance. I don't watch too much SD programming, and very little content of any that I do watch is actually delivered in HD, but here's to hoping the March 1.62 build corrects this issue for you. I do have an issue with the number of people queried for this poll's accuracy. I guarantee if Comcast subscribers in the Twin Cities were asked this same question, the results would be significantly higher. That said, the results of this 842 customer panel seem to be in line with other recent surveys about customer satisfaction, so who knows? Maybe it was just luck that the numbers are about the same for this poll? I agree with you on the SD PQ. One thing that keeps getting left out in this discussion is the fact that Verizon also managed to fix some of the video processing on their boxes with that release. For example, in the past, if I put my SD override to 480p or 'off' the mosquitoing I would get on some SD channels would drive me batty. I kept it at 480i as a result. Since they fixed that processing, I switched mine to 480p (they're right - the mosquitoing is totally gone) and the SD picture became almost as sharp as it was prior to this change. BTW, the SD STBs still provide a picture that's as sharp as ever - the PQ I get on my two SD TVs (one with the QIP2500, one with the DCT700) is astounding. As for this 'fix', it should correct things, because it'll allow you to adjust the same settings that Verizon messed with in the first place. And from what I understand, you'll even be able to shut them off, taking you right back to where they were before this change took place. I suffered through the extremely poor picture quality for months until I read the forums here.
I switched my SD override option from 480i to 480p which resulted in a dramatic improvement in SD picture quality.
Just to be clear, it is only SD picture quality on an HDTV set. SD pic on an SD TV looks great.
Only problem I have now is my 6 series DVR freezing up ocassionally which requires a hard reboot(unplugging the box) which is annoying because the cord is hard to reach on my box.
Other than that, I am extremely pleased with FIOS TV | |
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After watching HD, I can't go back. -- Weeeeeeee! | |
|  |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Love the picture said by cableties:Wait. I agree with you on the SD. But since I only watch the HD channels...I didn't think about that. After watching HD, I can't go back. Yep, the HD picture on FIOS is fantastic. I just wish there was more HD content! -- When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. -Ronald Reagan-
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| They can have it. My experience with Verizon Fios was mixed. Picture was good, but customer service and tech support got worse over the time I had it. It seemed to go out more and more often. We moved and Fios was not available. Went back to Comcast. It is has been very reliable, and I have been very pleased with picture quality, internet and customer service, and wouldn't go back to Fios if it became available. | |
|  |  jjoshuaPremium join:2001-06-01 Scotch Plains, NJ kudos:1 Reviews:
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| So far, Fios is good I switched from comcast 3 weeks ago. PQ is better, internet is faster, and I haven't had any problems getting someone on the phone to resolve any problems.
Billing looks good except that they billed me for an extra router. This charge was removed no problem. | |
|  |  | | Re: So far, Fios is good said by jjoshua:Billing looks good except that they billed me for an extra router. This charge was removed no problem. From what I've read here about Verizon billing issues, give it time, that phantom router charge will probably show up again! From the stories I've read, Verizon reps appeared to be powerless to do anything about it! They would remove it and the next month or a few months later, the phantom charges were back again!
That router issue might end up being like Jason in Friday the 13th, just when you think he's dead, here he comes again! | |
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3 edits | Help my math please With 842 samples weighted across the 7 providers in the study, the math looks something like this. * Sub numbers from Wikipedia and may be in question ** % of market is only with these 7 and not the entire Pay-TV market | |
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2 edits | Re: Help my math please IF that is the proper breakdown of the sample, the stats generated are pretty poor. You would need to poll the exact same number of customers, from each of the carriers, to get a better set of stats. Another useless set of information released that Verizon PR will spin to their advantage.
Kind of like the stat Glenn Beck threw out the other day about UAW workers making $164/hr when you include their benefits--he forgot to mention that some CEOs like Ivan Seidenberg make $9,000+/hr on Salary and bonuses without benefits[based upon an 8hr workday--his salary and bonuses come out to approx $75,000.00 per day]. Which hourly rate is more obscene in your opinion? | |
|  |  |  1 edit | Re: Help my math please It's not the breakdown of the polls... It is a potentially weighted breakdown. Without the $2000 report it is hard to vet the data.
Even with equal polling, I think the sample set is pretty small. | |
|  |  |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Help my math please I agree.. the sample is too small to be of any significance - esp on the AT&T / VZ customer polling.
I'd recommend somewhere in the area of 10,000-25,000 to at least make a sampling. Having 7 or 11 people as a valid number for AT&T or VZ is not enough for any meaningful statistics. 1/10 our of 10,000 samples means something. 1/10 out of 10 samples is too small of a sample base. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by Dolgan:Kind of like the stat Glenn Beck threw out the other day about UAW workers making $164/hr when you include their benefits--he forgot to mention that some CEOs like Ivan Seidenberg make $9,000+/hr on Salary and bonuses without benefits[based upon an 8hr workday--his salary and bonuses come out to approx $75,000.00 per day]. Which hourly rate is more obscene in your opinion? I bet Glenn Beck didn't state HIS hourly wage. He's got nerve complaining people that make MUCH less than him somehow make too much. Oh he'll talk about he worked hard went to college and did all the right things and that he has special talents that make him worth that money. As if people that make less somehow don't try and are lazy and/or stupid. Beck's "talent" is being blowhard on TV and badmouthing "liberals". How hard is that? most of the people on Fox do a "better"( for lack of a better term ) job at it than him. | |
|  |  |  |  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium join:2004-01-06 NYC Metro | Re: Help my math please said by BF69:said by Dolgan:Kind of like the stat Glenn Beck threw out the other day about UAW workers making $164/hr when you include their benefits--he forgot to mention that some CEOs like Ivan Seidenberg make $9,000+/hr on Salary and bonuses without benefits[based upon an 8hr workday--his salary and bonuses come out to approx $75,000.00 per day]. Which hourly rate is more obscene in your opinion? I bet Glenn Beck didn't state HIS hourly wage. He's got nerve complaining people that make MUCH less than him somehow make too much. Oh he'll talk about he worked hard went to college and did all the right things and that he has special talents that make him worth that money. As if people that make less somehow don't try and are lazy and/or stupid. Beck's "talent" is being blowhard on TV and badmouthing "liberals". How hard is that? most of the people on Fox do a "better"( for lack of a better term ) job at it than him. Since when do we punish success? I have never seen Glenn Beck say that making more money was a bad thing. Conservatives and Libertarians (such as myself and Glenn Beck) want everyone to make more money... But don't say you're not making a KILLING when you CLEARLY are.... Especially if it means that your company is going under if you don't make concessions!
-Tzale -- They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. | |
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 en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Time Warner Cable customers most likely to defect... Not surprising. Price is probably the one thing that has kept me with TWC.
- CS: 'anything' requires a tech visit = day off of work for me. - Multiple outages on TV, Phone and Internet with the explanation of 'it'll be back within 8 hours'
POTS/DSL were much more reliable (and expensive) DirecTV was extremely reliable (only went out once for ~ 5 minutes during a hard rain during a 5 year period).
Since AT&T 'finally' came out with a VoIP product (took +18 months after Uverse has been available), once my 1 year is up, I may give them a try. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
|  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium join:2004-01-06 NYC Metro | FIOS TV
FIOS TV is the BEST TV service available here IMHO.... I have not had ONE SINGLE PROBLEM in the two years or so that I have had the service. The same can't be said about cable... Half the time the on demand / interactive features would never work... Even if the picture quality / HD offering was better (at the time). Not to mention the recurrent cable broadband disconnections... I had numerous techs out here who couldn't solve the problem (they replaced all the wiring from the pole and inside the house).
-Tzale -- They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. | |
|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Big shock! fibre with all its bandwidth and low compression its not surprizing satisfaction is in the stratosphere! -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
|  |  | | Charter Spared? Interesting that Charter isn't even mentioned in this survey. I guess with their imminent bankruptcy, they have become irrelevant.
No doubt their customer satisfaction rating would have beat Time Warner hands down for last place, although I understand Time Warner is interested in the Charter's California franchise. Birds of a feather, flock together
I didn't need a price break to dump Charter, and to switch to U-Verse. The difference is night and day in all areas: Service, Price, Reliability, Ease-of-use, Billing accuracy.
My only regret is that U-Verse wasn't available 10 years ago, and that I had to suffer with Charter for that long. | |
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