Final Chapter in Rigas SagaFCC Approves Adelphia Deal ( old news - 06:11PM Thursday Jul 13 2006) tags: fcc · business · chapter11 Comcast and Time Warner's $17.6 billion purchase of bankrupt Adelphia Communications, has finally been approved. FCC commissioners voted 4 -1 in favor of the sale, with Michael Copps opposing, and Jonathan Adelstein dissenting in part, saying the commission should have imposed network neutrality conditions. The one major proviso: Comcast and Time Warner must put disputes over pricing or access to its regional sports networks to arbitration. Copps, wanting greater consumer protections, suggested that "while rescuing Adelphia is laudable, the anti-competitive combination of assets is not.",adding that nothing in the order "rebuts the truth that competition means higher prices. This decision is about big media getting bigger with consumers holding the bag. Time Warner, in a press release,stated that "now, with virtually all regulatory approvals in hand, we are in good shape to close the transaction by the previously announced target date of July 31." See related story below: » Last Days of Adelphia
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 jchambers106
join:2004-12-10
Kansas City, MO
1 edit | that really sucks i guess comcast it taking over kansas city mo now time to go back to sbc | |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | Re: that really sucks 
yea, good luck with that. | |
| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | um, where did you hear that Comcast was taking Kansas City as part of the Adelphia deal?
It's still my understanding that the Kansas City trade, if it happens, is only taking part on a separate deal in TX with a system there. | |
| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: Better or worst What's so funny about that?
If you look at the entire deal of the transaction, there is a reason why TWC is getting more. Not to mention, there is that alleged 33% subscriber caps in this country.
Comcast is gaining major strength out of this for it's own internal operation by being able to cluster it's markets together. For example, where the Twin Cities has Time Warner and Comcast, They will swap this system with TWC so they can have the entire metro area. It helps reduce some of the operational costs. | |
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join:2004-12-10
Danvers, MA | How much actual cash is coming out of the Comcast war chest for this transaction? It is my understanding that TWC is flipping most of the bill buying back their stock from Comcast and paying for a share of Adelphia. | |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | I dont think it will change I figure it will be just about the same service with the same people atleast for awhile then it will get better or worse down the road but for now Im 100% sure it will be exactly the same as it was before. | |
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Erie, PA
1 edit | Re: Typo If you think slower speeds and more expensive HSI with worse customer service for those going to TW is a good thing, well, then, yeah | |
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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| Re: Typo said by DannyZ  :If you think slower speeds and more expensive HSI with worse customer service for those going to TW is a good thing, well, then, yeah I rarely ever have issues with my TW. | |
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Erie, PA
1 edit | Re: Typo I rarely have issues either. But anytime I call or email RR to inquire about things, I get either incorrect information, or they just gloss over my questions.
In a recent email exchange with support, I asked 5 questions, clearly separated from each other to prevent confusion. The reply consisted of an answer to one question, and a restatement of something else I had written. I replied back, pressing for the answers to my other questions, to which support replied answering 2 more questions, completely ignoring the rest.
Stuff like this doesn't just happen occasionally, but every time I contact support, bar none.
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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| Re: Typo said by DannyZ :I rarely have issues either. But anytime I call or email RR to inquire about things, I get either incorrect information, or they just gloss over my questions. In a recent email exchange with support, I asked 5 questions, clearly separated from each other to prevent confusion. The reply consisted of an answer to one question, and a restatement of something else I had written. I replied back, pressing for the answers to my other questions, to which support replied answering 2 more questions, completely ignoring the rest. Well, don't email, call them. Email is a bad way for ISP issues, at least to me it is. | |
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Gentoo Fanboy
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join:2003-01-29
Erie, PA
| Re: Typo Well, I don't have a phone.
And that was just an example of the most recent exchange with support. On the occasions I have called, it has been the same level of service. incorrect information, or an inability to answer my questions.
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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| Re: Typo said by DannyZ :Well, I don't have a phone. And that was just an example of the most recent exchange with support. On the occasions I have called, it has been the same level of service. incorrect information, or an inability to answer my questions. The first level or second level techs? Or both? | |
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Erie, PA | Re: Typo To be honest, I can't remember. But it doesn't matter, to me anyway. Support is support; they should be able to give me correct information. | |
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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| Re: Typo said by DannyZ :To be honest, I can't remember. But it doesn't matter, to me anyway. Support is support; they should be able to give me correct information. Yes, they should, but the level 1 are mostly worthless. If I need to call, I just explain they will not be able to help me and transfer me to the next level  | |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | Re: Typo I love when people think they know so much. | |
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2 edits | Re: Typo said by LeftOfSanity :I love when people think they know so much. This directed towards me? If so, this is all I have to say to you | |
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SOLdesign
Did I drink a shot of Irrational Whore?
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join:2002-07-29
Woodland Hills, CA
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| I moved from Adelphia to TW last year and customer service is outstanding, more channels, more payVOD and free VOD.
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vice8686
join:2000-10-13
Lancaster, CA
| From what I understand, it doesn't quite work that way. Once the infrastructure is in place and service is good, then service will not change, only the cable company name. I have great service with Adelphia's HSI, always on, very stable and fast. I expect that once Time Warner takes over that this will continue. I'm not worried. | |
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GOLFnSUN
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Avalon, NJ
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| Re: Typo said by Mactron :Sad for those fellow broadbanders going to Comcrap.  Terrible TV service, intermittent HSI, and ever increasing monthly $$$. Been there, done that!  Ashamed you had bad service. I had and have great service and no problems. In any case, the switch is mostly irrelevant. The local mgt, service personnel, and infrastructure all come over intact to Conrail. If Adelphia is good for you now, it will be no different under Comcast. The only changes will be an eventual change in some TV networks being carried and an equalization of prices over time. Cable companies like Comcast and TW are multi system operators(MSOs) and each local system is run almost as an independent company. That is why some areas in a cable company are great(like mine) and others are not so hot. It takes many many years for an area to change from its heritage.
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| frankie9999
join:2005-04-22
Jeffersonton, VA
| Timeline for takeover? Any word on when Comcast will assume the Adelphia territories west of DC?
This is a bummer...Adelphia HSI has been very reliable here in Culpeper county since rollout a year and a half ago. Two outages in all that time, both resolved in a few hours (cable cuts). | |
| jebba2005
join:2005-01-13
Portland, ME | upload? I had adelphia and my upload was twice that of tw, will tw reduce upload speeds? | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: upload? said by jebba2005 :I had adelphia and my upload was twice that of tw, will tw reduce upload speeds? probably, but they might have a premium tier that you can upgrade to to keep your upload.
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Dominokat
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join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
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| Rats--- This sucks.
I am very impressed with Adelphia service in my area. Great uploads (almost 2x times TW uploads on their fastest level) I rarely have any issues and if I do, it is a minor one that is fixed very fast.
I wished Adelphia came out of this on its own. | |
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nitejob
@comcast.net | 17.6 Billion That's $3,385 per customer-forgetaboutit- just overbuild with fttp. 17.6 billion is big $$$$. | |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
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| Re: 17.6 Billion said by nitejob :
That's $3,385 per customer-forgetaboutit- just overbuild with fttp. 17.6 billion is big $$$$.
Ridiculous statement....Of course you are clearly forgetting the Adelphia Backbone and other infrastructure.
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Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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| Re: 17.6 Billion said by hobgoblin :said by nitejob :
That's $3,385 per customer-forgetaboutit- just overbuild with fttp. 17.6 billion is big $$$$.
Ridiculous statement....Of course you are clearly forgetting the Adelphia Backbone and other infrastructure. Hob I dunno though, the OP has a point. That's a lot of money to pay per sub.
Can you imagine if they just went around to their own areas they are in already and approached homes passed who DON'T take their service and offered them all 1,000 bucks to come on board?
That would STILL only be less than 1/3rd the price they're paying per sub for this deal.
It kind of makes you wonder why these companies only offer something like 19.99 for six months, hence a 120.00 price tag for an incentive for new subscribers when they're willing to buy out customers for this kind of money?
I realize there are other assets involved, but still.
That seems to value those bankrupt assets at a very rich price.
At 100.00 a month billing, this will take 3 years per sub just to recoup those revenues.
I'm not sure I understand their thinking in offering money like this.
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| russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Not too many options here.... Basically either a big cable company was going to purchase Adelphia, or they'd have to let the company go under and the assets be sold off piecemeal. The latter wouldn't have been good for anyone (it certainly wouldn't have improved competition!) | |
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