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Though ultimately hits 14,000 downloads per minute at 13Gbps
09:35AM Wednesday Jun 18 2008 by Karl Bode
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Yesterday the Firefox developers released Firefox 3, and in the process attempted to set a Guinness World Record for most software downloaded in 24 hours. Unfortunately, their servers couldn't handle the load and buckled shortly after the effort began. According to a developer blog post, they restarted the 24-hour clock from the point which they came back online. A subsequent blog post claims they were seeing some 14,000 downloads per minute, at 7MB per download, creating 13 Gigabits per second of download traffic.

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Jeffrey
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Love FF

I got right on »www.mozilla.com last night around 6pm with no problem, and downloaded FF in a matter of seconds. Although later on in the evening 8 or 9pm EST or so, mozilla.com had trouble resolving. Not sure what that was about.

I think this is the first time in history - my history that is - where I downloaded, installed, and used a brand new release of a program on its first day. I waited over 8 months before I even installed IE7 and over a year for XP and Office 2007.

Only gripe I have at the moment is my theme I like doesn't work with 3 (yet), but I'm sure that will change or I'll find sometihng else.
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Re: Love FF

Me 2.

So far, I really like it. It's a very fast page renderer now.

I have a hard time seeing why anyone would use IE except for the fact of familiarity.

This browser is fast.
tbone2006

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Re: Love FF

Some websites won't work with Firfox, like walmartbenefits.com. If I need to login to change my benefits or something work related I am forced to use IE.

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June 18th, @01:18PM

Re: Love FF

said by tbone2006 See Profile :

Some websites won't work with Firfox, like walmartbenefits.com. If I need to login to change my benefits or something work related I am forced to use IE.
Try the IE Tab addon. It allows you to open a tab in IE or a separate IE window if you want just by right clicking on a link. And you can also have it automatically open certain web sites you choose always open in an IE tab within Firefox.

»https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
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said by tbone2006 See Profile :

Some websites won't work with Firfox, like walmartbenefits.com. If I need to login to change my benefits or something work related I am forced to use IE.
walmart finally fixed that ive been able to log in with firefoxx for the past 6 months now them loosing my wifes user name and password ever 3 days that i dont think they will every fix but what do you expect its walmart the only benifit you get is eventually you die and they call that retirment

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You can use IE Tab add-on. It renders pages within FF using IE engine. If you come across a website that is still incompatible with Firefox, with one click you just reload it in IE-compatible view

»https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

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Use "IE Tab" add on for firefox.
LeftOfSanity

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I never really had any problem with IE. I tried FF, Opera, Safari but none really wowed me, so I normally just use IE. Not that anyone cares
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Re: Love FF

said by LeftOfSanity See Profile :

I never really had any problem with IE. I tried FF, Opera, Safari but none really wowed me, so I normally just use IE. Not that anyone cares
I care. But, who am I to say?
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Cabal
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Seconded, Firefox 3 is top-notch. Faster loading, much lower memory usage, and ridiculously fast rendering. Congrats to all involved.
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Re: Love FF

said by Cabal See Profile :

Seconded, Firefox 3 is top-notch. Faster loading, much lower memory usage, and ridiculously fast rendering. Congrats to all involved.
I don't see that much difference in speed, the new features are crap, and annoying bugs still haven't been fixed since version 2 (or longer).
soccerguy

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Re: Love FF

I have to agree. I'm having problems with web pages that rendered just fine in FF2.

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Re: Love FF

said by soccerguy See Profile :

I have to agree. I'm having problems with web pages that rendered just fine in FF2.
Add me to that list. My home page won't load completely.

my.live.com

Works in 2.0 but it didn't work in the 3.0 betas and still doesn't work
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June 18th, @02:49PM

Re: Love FF

said by jpeckinp See Profile :

said by soccerguy See Profile :

I have to agree. I'm having problems with web pages that rendered just fine in FF2.
Add me to that list. My home page won't load completely.

my.live.com

Works in 2.0 but it didn't work in the 3.0 betas and still doesn't work
Use the IE Tab addon:

»https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

Mozilla made a conscious decision to NOT continue to work with web sites that don't meet web page design standards. IE7 still includes some workarounds for non-complying web code. When IE8 comes out, IE will also be more stringent about displaying non-compliant code correctly.

In the meantime the IE Tab addon works very well for me on those few sites with problems - most of which are Microsoft sites.
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Re: Love FF

oh, so Mozilla has taken on the task of single handedly enforcing web standards? give me a fucking break. that right there is the definition of elitist.

listen, trying to take the high road because your browser share is weak hasn't worked for 10 years. Netscape started that bullshit mantra a long time ago. Last time I looked, nothing has changed.
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Re: Love FF

said by inteller See Profile :

oh, so Mozilla has taken on the task of single handedly enforcing web standards? give me a fucking break. that right there is the definition of elitist.
Elitist?

Try not wanting to waste time writing workarounds for every broken page on the Internet. Make it the site author's problem. After all, if they're not writing to standards, you can't even know what they mean, so anything you do could very well be wrong.

With the market share Firefox has, any broken commercial sites will be fixed.

You obviously have no clue what Netscape was doing before they abandoned the project entirely. Netscape 4 was an utter piece of shit. It was only by a miracle that IE was an even worse piece of shit, and that changed with IE4, which sucked, but not that bad. Of course, Netscape 4 (but not 4.5) could be excused, for the standards were weak to nonexistent. What couldn't be excused was the bloated mess of spaghetti code.
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Re: Love FF

said by wierdo See Profile :

With the market share Firefox has, any broken commercial sites will be fixed.

bwahahahahahahahaha....
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Re: Love FF

said by inteller See Profile :

bwahahahahahahahaha....
Please elaborate?

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Obviously you don't care about older sites that haven't been maintained for some time but are still useful to some of us...
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Re: Love FF

said by jonnyz See Profile :

Obviously you don't care about older sites that haven't been maintained for some time but are still useful to some of us...
I do. That's why I have IE. It deals better with quasi-web sites. Fx deals better with web sites.
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jpeckinp
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Well that didn't work either. Oh well I guess I'll just go back to 2.0
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Using the IE tab option for a website built specifically for Mozilla browsers doesn't seem like it is going to help.

I find it amazing that a website interface for Mozilla/Firefox works fine with FF2 but breaks with FF3.

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Re: Love FF

said by soccerguy See Profile :

Using the IE tab option for a website built specifically for Mozilla browsers doesn't seem like it is going to help.

I find it amazing that a website interface for Mozilla/Firefox works fine with FF2 but breaks with FF3.
It worked just fine for me. I opened my.live.com with the IE Tab addon and it looks identical to what it looks like in IE7.
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Re: Love FF

That's all fine and dandy, but I'm not talking about live.com, a Microsoft site. I'm talking about a website (webmail from an ISP to be more specific) that was built and coded specifically for users with a Mozilla/FF browser. It works fine in FF2, but chokes in FF3. That just makes no sense.

And what does it say about Mozilla if we are forced to use an "IE" add-on to make web pages render correctly?
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Re: Love FF

said by soccerguy See Profile :

That's all fine and dandy, but I'm not talking about live.com, a Microsoft site. I'm talking about a website (webmail from an ISP to be more specific) that was built and coded specifically for users with a Mozilla/FF browser. It works fine in FF2, but chokes in FF3. That just makes no sense.

And what does it say about Mozilla if we are forced to use an "IE" add-on to make web pages render correctly?
If it was written to standards, it would work, unless there's some bug, in which case you should file a bug report.
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June 18th, @02:15PM

said by Cabal See Profile :

Seconded, Firefox 3 is top-notch. Faster loading, much lower memory usage, and ridiculously fast rendering. Congrats to all involved.
Will see about lower memory usage.

48,340 K right now on FF3
28,764 on IE 6
from just viewing this page.

The thing that kept me from putting FF2 as my default browser was after an half hour of usage, the memory usage shot up quadrupole the amount causing the browser to be slow and unusable until you exit out of it and open it back up. That got very annoying real fast and kept me using IE6 since I did not have that problem with it.

Here's to hoping that is fixed in FF3 so I can make the complete switch!

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June 19th, @11:30AM

Re: Love FF

said by Jwobot See Profile :

said by Cabal See Profile :

Seconded, Firefox 3 is top-notch. Faster loading, much lower memory usage, and ridiculously fast rendering. Congrats to all involved.
Will see about lower memory usage.

48,340 K right now on FF3
28,764 on IE 6
from just viewing this page.

either way that is barely any memory usage. My PCs have 2GB to 4GB of memory. I'm not worried about a program using 50MB or 100MB. It won't make any difference to me.

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i agree very fast

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said by Jeffrey See Profile :

I got right on »www.mozilla.com last night around 6pm with no problem, and downloaded FF in a matter of seconds. Although later on in the evening 8 or 9pm EST or so, mozilla.com had trouble resolving. Not sure what that was about.

I think this is the first time in history - my history that is - where I downloaded, installed, and used a brand new release of a program on its first day.
I did that with Vista. It was fun to see no updates after a clean install.

I've been running the FF 3 RC for a while. I never saw an update but it seems to have dropped the RC off the version.
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They really did a good job from start to release!
I have FF3 installed on my laptop.
The download and the installation was quick.

Fast browser!
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Rombus
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Wow yet another biased news story

How about you report the story with less bias?
Maybe actually note that the hit over 6 million downloads, and they may have hit a million downloads within 4 hours?

its OK to not write with a bias Karl, Most people like Mozilla! It's not like the cable companies that you love to rip apart on the front page.

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Just got mine...

Site seems to be working OK as well as downloading, but site response seems a bit sluggish...but could be also due to my poky laptop I downloaded it with and am on right now....
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Re: Just got mine...

The sites seems to be loading faster and smoother on Firefox 3 than it did on Firefox 2.

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Okay so far

Just a minor bug here and there.

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FIREFOX3 Download

Don't really understand all the pissin' and moaning over biased reporting.So they stumbled out of the gate and did a "do-over". DSLR reported it as a stumble and went on to say after they fixed the issue the site was smokin' with downloads. I just read the article and it prompted me to download FF3. I have to say that this was the fastest download I've ever experienced on my system. I'm impressed!!! Sure wish ALL download servers out there would deliver like this.
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Re: FIREFOX3 Download

Indeed. The record is for most downloads in a 24 hour period. It doesn't matter when the clock starts, just when it stops. To my knowledge they weren't looking to find out how many downloads occurred in the first 24 hours.
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June 18th, @10:21AM

Isn't this an obvious situation where P2P would benefit?

I don't get it - why are companies like Mozilla still stuck in the stone age, trying to serve these huge downloads with giant brute-force servers? It ALWAYS ends up falling over and crashing, and even when it works, it's expensive as hell to do. Isn't this why BitTorrent was created in the first place? Why didn't Mozilla just publish a few BitTorrent seeds and let the rest take care of itself? This seems like a textbook "legitimate" use of BitTorrent that would have saved the Mozilla foundation a LOT in bandwidth costs. It's almost like the MPAA and RIAA got in touch with Mozilla and said, "hey, don't use BitTorrent, we don't want to see it used in any sort of legitimate way while we're trying to sue all P2P out of existance", and Mozilla timidly replied, "OK".

(And if your answer is "because everyone hates BitTorrent and/or can't use it behind their NAT/firewall/etc", then how about Mozilla reaches agreement with some mirrors to server the files to the die-hard downloaders the old-fashioned way? As Samwise said to Frodo, "Share the load!")

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What I want numbers on

Is how many people end up downgrading back to 2.xx after the "Awesome bar" show their wife what kind of porn they are into

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Neoistheone

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Firefox.....

.....FTW!!!!!!!!!

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Firefox 3 Download Record Sees Rocky Start

I hate the address bar also. Vote!

But all else seems ok so far.

Congrats Mozilla, up to 7,158,xxx so far...

booticon

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Uh.

It's great that you guys talk about "breaking" a record when such a record doesn't currently exist. It's as though they're "setting" one.

herb77

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Firefox sucks

Freegoo

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Re: Firefox sucks

That page is just a little outdated. And just as biased as the people they are trying to debunk.

booticon

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Yeah... wow.
Binary

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Well this is 3.0

Lots and Lots have change.

So go back playing with your monopoly IE
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June 18th, @01:55PM

Lots of bandwidth...

hehe, they must've had a lot of mirrors going to send 13Gbps of bandwidth to people. The mirrors were slow, but it seemed as though every now and again I'd hit a nice and fast one. I only got two mirrors when downloading yesterday and today (and this morning they were still slow!).

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Sad..

I love how everyone's panties get all wet just because a new version of a POS web browser is released.

"OMG they have 32482039823 downloads!!!! FIREFOX ROCKS!!!"

Rat meet race!


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June 18th, @02:15PM

Re: Sad..

It's all about having the latest, if not the greatest. We should resist temptation, but it's hard work (to borrow an over-used phrase).

Oh, and isn't there supposed to be an IE 8 sometime? I just have to get that. Then again, maybe not. Its just in Beta 1 at this point.

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June 18th, @09:08PM

Re: Sad..

Didn't really like Firefox3 with all the n00b factor they added. The stars were annoying. The history was double the size.

I uninstalled it for now, and want back to good old reliable
FireFox2.

If I wanted to run IE7, I would have installed IE7. I really hated FF3.
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Re: Sad..

I did not like it at first during beta but now I use to it.

Those stars and History not that big, whats your screen of your monitor? 800 by 600?

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RAM Usage

Did they finally figure out how to make FF3 not be a RAM hog?

I'm waiting for it to autoupdate itself.....
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Re: RAM Usage

»img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image···ert4.jpg

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FF3 FTW!

I love FF3. I've been using beta copies on Mac and downloaded final yesterday. No problems at all. Goodbye Safari!
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ff is the one!

had no issues yesterday downloading ff3 on 2 machines here. great browser. love the ad-ons. bub

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Worked for me!

I got my copy. Worked fine, a few seconds!

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FF3 smokes IE7

FF2 was already faster then IE7 on my machine. Now IE7 is just a pathetic pig in rendering web pages next to FF3. And that is with the phishing filter off on IE7. With the phishing filter on in IE7 its so slow that's it is not even worth the bother. This is the first final version application that I have ever used that really appears to be a finished product. I can't see how any body can complain about such a high quality product that is free to boot.

Installation was a breeze and it installed over FF2 without a hitch keeping all my bookmarks etc.. Highly recommended to anyone sitting on the fence. I immediately installed this on my older desktop running XP Pro and so far no problems on that machine as well.

I think this is going to force MS to actually write some lean code to speed up IE. MS has been so lazy in coding these days and everything they write is total bloatware. If you told MS to write something like FF3 and to keep it to under 8 megs in size they would probably admit that it's not possible. I am from the old school of thought being that the best software is generally lean and small in total file size. Something MS has drifted away from with vista is a big way.

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It might be better to wait until the vulnerability is fixed

»www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38018/112

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Firefox 3 Download Record Sees Rocky Start

"Firefox 3 Download Record Sees Rocky Start"

Of course it did when a major issue was patched within 5 minutes of this garbage being released!

The Mozilla people didn't know that in their effort to set a Guiness record, which could've been just one download as there was never a record established anyway, their servers would be hammered. Once they reset the 24 hour clock, that effort at the record should've ended right there. Definitely should NOT be counting the downloads after that.
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