 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | Damn! I might have to have a closer look at Firefox after all, huh?
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 |  |  |  PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium join:2005-01-03 | Re: Damn! From what I can tell, the extension was being offered for free. | |
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 |  |  |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Damn! said by PolarBear03:From what I can tell, the extension was being offered for free. Surely you are not that stupid. Getting content from the PIRATE Bay instead of Amazonor some other LEGITIMATE source is in fact thievery. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  BPremium,MVM join:2000-10-28 | I tried reading that link, but the person who wrote it just isn't very bright. A poorly written, unsubstantiated, meatless whine.
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 |  |  |  |  major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium join:2003-02-13 Stepford, CA | said by Karl Bode:That is, if you support tools aiding thievery. Not only thievery, but MURDER! Don't forget that it also aides and abets terra. Please, will someone think of the children! | |
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| said by Karl Bode:That is, if you support tools aiding thievery. Not only thievery, but MURDER! You forgot it supports Terrorism too! -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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One could assume promoting it for news, would be advocating it. Most of wouldn't have heard about it if you did not tip the story to Karl.
said by ThrowDemsOut:That is, if you support tools aiding thievery. And again, you support the masses with your tip to Karl. (It's alright to smack yourself in the forehead. No one here will see you do it.) -- "Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it."  | |
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I never heard of this thing until today. Thanks TK! | |
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 |  |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | said by ThrowDemsOut:That is, if you support tools aiding thievery. The only people who would use this are people who know to go to TPB anyway. So now it just saves them a step. Despicable? Definitely. But it won't affect a large number of people. | |
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yeah that sure isnt alot of people there...
said by Matt:The only people who would use this are people who know to go to TPB anyway. So now it just saves them a step. Despicable? But it won't affect a large number of people. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: Damn! said by jwwolf:yeah that sure isnt alot of people there... said by Matt:The only people who would use this are people who know to go to TPB anyway. So now it just saves them a step. Despicable? But it won't affect a large number of people. Those are already TPB users, so it's not like they were going to buy from Amazon anyway. | |
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 |  |  |  maartenaElmoPremium join:2002-05-10 Orange, CA kudos:1 Reviews:
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And using your reasoning, an ISP that offers a usenet server is "aiding thievery" as well.... as a matter of fact one could argue that a ISP that is even allowing access to thepiratebay.org is "aiding thievery".
Accusing people that use Firefox that they "support tools aiding thievery" is pretty silly. :P | |
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 |  |  |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: Damn! said by maartena:said by ThrowDemsOut:That is, if you support tools aiding thievery. Firefox does not control who writes extensions, and for what purpose. And using your reasoning, an ISP that offers a usenet server is "aiding thievery" as well.... as a matter of fact one could argue that a ISP that is even allowing access to thepiratebay.org is "aiding thievery". Accusing people that use Firefox that they "support tools aiding thievery" is pretty silly. :P He was referring to the Firefox extension, not Firefox itself. | |
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 |  |  |  |  PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium join:2005-01-03 | Re: Damn! Ad-Block? YOU'RE ROBBING WEBSITE OWNERS OF THEIR REVENUE!
Now what's this little red octagon at the bottom of my browser for... | |
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| said by ThrowDemsOut:That is, if you support tools aiding thievery. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  FiLPremium join:2005-08-16 Silver Spring, MD | True... I can stick a pencil into your neck, and pretty much have solid kill under my belt.
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| said by mlerner:Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns don't kill people.... Bullets do... that hit people who are standing in front of guns...er.... um but not the guns! -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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How do I know all this? Because it happened to me, when a crooked server at a restaurant 'cloned' my card. Luckily, I only use 1 card for food and gas, so as soon as I got my bill, I realized it had been cloned.
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Theft does not equal copyright infringement and copyright infringement does not equal theft.
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 |  |  maartenaElmoPremium join:2002-05-10 Orange, CA kudos:1 | Firefox extensions in general are awesome. It's one of the main reasons I keep using it.
As for this one, it is a pretty creative one....  | |
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I've always thought, if it's a good thing and everyone's getting something, shut the F up an keep the gravy train moving. | |
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 |  44402812Hack The PlanetPremium join:2006-08-28 Plattsburgh, NY | Works Great I concur Daddy-O | |
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| Re: Nice... I looked at the code. It isn't malicious, but it is overly complicated for what it actually does. It basically implements a very dumbed down version of Greasemonkey and then runs itself as a script in the page examining all web traffic on Amazon's site and replacing images with links to the Pirate Bay.
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I'll turn it off now. | |
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| Re: Nice... said by south1178:said by KrK:Ah, works fine it appears.... I'll turn it off now. LOL you should be shot for looking up Waterworld. I wanted to use something as an example that nobody would want to pay for.  -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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Not so great.
I tried it, it works (I guess). It links to the Torrent's page on The Pirate Bay.
So here's my take:
#1 - If it's being sold on Amazon, don't just take it for free. Support the art that you love. I'm interested in hearing the moral justification for taking titles like Wall-E (the title I tested, and yes, it found a Torrent for it). For me, if it's on Amazon.com and I want it, I'm likely to buy it. If it's not for sale new or used anywhere, but someone on P2P has it, then I can possibly see the justification. Different people will draw that line in different places, but there's just no good reason to take a first-run product that is for sale (and cheaply) and because you can. I generally support P2P and file-sharing, and I think copyright laws have expanded beyond sensibility, but I can't support taking full advantage of this plugin -- I hope people will do what's right.
#2 - It "phones home" very unnecessarily. The script piratesoftheamazon.js fetches its images from its home site, which basically lets it know (via HTTP's REFERER tag) what page you were on within Amazon when it fetched its image. This function was not hidden in any way, so the developers may not have evil intent, but users should be aware that when they visit a product's page on Amazon, they're also sharing that info with whoever owns www.pirates-of-the-amazon.com.
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var not_downloadable_image = "http://www.pirates-of-the-amazon.com/pics/not_downloadable.gif";
var not_available_image = "http://www.pirates-of-the-amazon.com/pics/not_available.gif";
var download_now_image = "http://www.pirates-of-the-amazon.com/pics/download.gif";
var loading_gif = "http://www.pirates-of-the-amazon.com/pics/loading.gif";
3. It also gives a special "Pirates-of-the-Amazon" hello in its User-Agent when it searches thepiratebay.org (which doesn't necessarily implicate TPB in this, it could be just a cute thing to do). So TPB knows what traffic is being generated by this plugin.
var newlink = 'http://'+ URLname +'/s/?q=\"' + myTextField2 + "\"&" + torrent_cat + "=on&searchTitle=on&page=0&orderby=7";
// Go fetch the source code of the torrent search page
GM_xmlhttpRequest(
{
method:"GET",
url: newlink,
headers:
{
"User-Agent":"Pirates-of-the-Amazon",
//"Operating Ship": "HMS Bounty",
//"User-Agent":"Mozilla/5.0",
"Accept":"text/xml"
},
4. I didn't see anything else going on inside the code. While not directly evil, these things that I did find are things users ought to know. Technical worries aside, users ought to ask themselves what the right thing to do is -- how will they, personally, financially support the art that they value?
Found more:
Pirates of the Amazon | Artzilla.org
* To: infoo {AT} moddr.net * Subject: [Nettime-nl] Pirates of the Amazon | Artzilla.org * From: Walter Langelaar * Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:10:56 +0100 * Organization: moddr_ * Reply-to: walter {AT} wormweb.nl * User-agent: [WORM] RoundCube Webmail/0.1-rc2
har! this just released ::
*Pirates of the Amazon Add-on*
"How can you compete with free? You cant!" Lawrence Lessig
The Firefox add-on "Pirates of the Amazon" inserts a "download 4 free" button on Amazon, which links to corresponding Piratebay BitTorrents. The add-on lowers the technical barrier to enable anyone to choose between "add to shopping cart" or "download 4 free". Are you a pirate?
To download/install the add-on, and for more information on the project, please visit »pirates-of-the-amazon.com
This release is part of the upcoming Launch Party of "Artzilla.org", which will take place at WORM in Rotterdam on the 13th of December. During this event the audience will be able to browse the net using several artistic browser modifications and Firefox add-ons, in Artzilla.org's first Firefox add-on exhibition ►► participating artists include ::
Theo Watson Aram Bartholl Evan Roth Dragan Espenschied Timo Klok Jamie Wilkinson Danja Vasiliev Tobias leingruber
Besides good tunes by surprise DJ's and live acts, the evening will also host speed presentations by Theo Watson, Timo Klok, Danja Vasiliev and Evan Roth - moderated by tobi-x and with special guests Florian Cramer (/PietZwartInstituteMDMA/) and Hans Bernhard (/ubermorgen.com/) ...
For more info on this event, and for reservations, please visit »agenda.wormweb.nl/agenda.php?id=2253
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Timo Klok is the person who registered pirates-of-the-amazon.com -- so I guess we do know who sees the HTTP-REFERER info after all.
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its something piratebay.org would be proud of. i bet they would even host it. | |
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 |  |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Re: My preachy rant and then some technical worries -- said by itsdownnow :
they took it down.
Which is really, really funny. Of all people, they should know that you can't really delete something like that once it's been on the Internet. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More features, more fun, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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it was only a matter of time before this got onto The Pirate Bay, assuming this is the true extension and not a supposed virus. as with pretty much EVERYTHING else, once it gets on the piratebay, it is there for good. | |
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 BPremium,MVM join:2000-10-28 | Kinda Stupid? Am I the only one who thinks this is awfully gimmicky even if it works flawlessly?
I mean, I haven't used it, but isn't it nothing more than running searches through "TPB"?
That's an awfully trivial function. Cute little hack I guess. It gets the headlines.
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I haven't tried this plug-In, and probably won't but I do see one problem with this. If the creators plug-in website is down because of Amazon lawyers, then this plug-in won't work. From what I've read and learned, the plug-in calls back to the creators website. And if the website is down, then the plug-in can't call and complete the loop successfully.
Yes, this can easily be fixed, but as it stands at the moment, it won't work. | |
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