Firefox Troll Nets DDoS Attacks

Oh Puh-Leeeeeeze. Whaaaaa

--Matt

Use of the word "terrorism" today is to use of the word "communism" in the 50's.

No its acts of torments.

Yep, trying to bring down or hack someone's website to stifle his opinion is indeed terrorism to the letter. We just used to call it a "chilling effect."

Perhaps you support book burning and broadcast censorship as well?

Perhaps you missed the point of my statement. Let me spell it out for you: These days, the term is too quickly, easily and frequently applied where it only loosely applies at best.

Oh, and the perhaps you should refrain from broad baseless and clueless personal attacks and suppositions. It cheapens your argument.

Yep, trying to bring down or hack someone's website to stifle his opinion is indeed terrorism to the letter. We just used to call it a "chilling effect."

Perhaps you support book burning and broadcast censorship as well?

Repeating the same weak argument does not make it more valid.

It is now terroristic threats instead of assault. What's in a word indeed.

Amen, you tell em' brother. If you can't come up with a valid argument attack the messenger instead.

There needs to be a threat of force or actual use of force by an organization, group, individual or government, regardless of legality. There have been no threats of force and no one has sent bombs to him.

The worst it could be called is harassment (the emails) and DDoSing.

Sounds like that guy needs a date and move out of his parents basement.

I seriously wish his traffic counter went to zero, and all his users left his site. It would be fun to let him know that nobody cares. He just wants attention. I haven't even given his site any second though. I have not clicked on it once. I actually feel like "who cares bub?". It would be nice if all he seen and heard were the sounds of crickets, as his link light came to a halt, and his pockets went empty because no one cared, and everyone left his whiny butt. Maybe he needs to consider that people are NOT INTERESTED in his ad's, and that he should find an ad provider that has more interesting ads, and maybe people wouldn't care to block them. If he has THAT many people using Firefox on his page, blocking ads, then I would suspect the ads are either malicious, tracking ad's, or his users are smart enough to use a browser that is not susceptible to so many problems. I didn't even comment on the first article, because this is ONE GUY. I hope he realizes that nobody is going to jump on board unless they are just as bent as he is.

I won't lose any sleep over it.

Same here lol.

I find it funny how this guy defends the ads that only want to spam your email, home address, and probably phone, and most likely have a much greater chance of identity theft.

What a great world we live in with such people with black and white mentalities.

I have a question for Mr. Lewis (or whatever his name is), Do You sir, click on ads and participate in them?
Do you support companies that infect your computer with spyware, slow corporate networks down, and cripple servers with mass amounts of spam?
Or just want the smarter group of internet users have uninterrupted access to getting it?

Remember, you could have won a Porsche

it's certainly not right that those people tried to hack his server or shut him down...but to accuse them as being terrorists? HA! Using his logic, then he should classify himself as a "terrorist" for what he's said about FireFox and AdBlock Plus........geesh, what a jerk.

yeah... cause we don't have free speech or anything. i agree that the term terrorist is a bit much, but to compare actions to speech is ridiculous.

I guess this dude is buddy with the people living at the White House right... funny how he used the word "terrorist" way too many times in such a short paragraph.

4 minutes to a BushBash, good work. You must be a communist terrorist.

Neither one nor the other... it was just a funny reference for the excessive use of the word terrorist.

So what is the threshold for too many?

1

Wow Devil24 I didn't even see your mouth move.

Ah, you where looking at the wrong end.

Actually, no, he's just an example of yet another clueless moron who is in denial about real terrorists and what they're up to. Denial makes people say stupid things.

Exactly.

Face it...the guy in question more or less begged for his site to be hacked. He reminds me of the kid in 4th grade who always went well out of his way for attention...any kind of attention from anyone. And then when he got it, all he did was cry about the injustice of it all. Much like this Jack Lewis/Danny Carlton retardate.

Word up.

Sometimes I really wish people with this much free time would do something productive with their energy, you know, like work on solving world hunger, or resolving the national debt...

Yeah I hate these kinds of troublemakers.
It's because he's a Firefox user, they are all trolls.Every one of 'em.

Just because I'm short and wear a pointy hat, does not make me a troll. Since I don't live under a bridge, I am a gnome.

Long live Firefox.... and AdBlock, which I will now begin using thanks to Danny.

Or post in threads like this?

Hob

Foreal all you know, he is helping...being on the internet constitutes doing nothing?

The people trying to resolve the National Debt are not heard. TYhe people trying to resolve the fact that Cable has no real competition, like the Long Distance telephone companies - remember when it was $.60 a minute to call california from the east coast and then after the breakup suddenly .25 and lower hmmm..
The people who know how to get the problems resolved are not politicians - those are PARTY DOGMATISTS and cant get anything done b/c the other party came up with a great idea first, and they cant be right!

guess it just means less sites that I pay attention to or potentially spend money at...

love the part where it talks about Firefox users spending less money than IE users... So I guess the CEOs I setup with Firefox spend less now right?

Its my browser, and i can control what goes on my screen...

Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a terrorist

Is everyone who can't stand your trolling null routing
your website in their hosts file:

[# Jack Lewis - Anti Firefox Troll]
127.0.0.1 www.whyfirefoxisblocked.com
127.0.0.1 www.firefoxmyths.com

Quite frankly, you deserve an audience of one: yourself.

I understand that advertisement on a website helps pay for the expenses incurred to run the website. My problem is that some of the advertisements are annoying. Flash ads with noise ("Congratulations! You just won a free iphone. Click here to claim your prize"), ads that overlay the text I'm trying to read, ads that move around the screen, pop-up ads that pop-up another ad that pops up another ad when you try to close it.

Whatever... I don't trust a word out of this guy's mouth. Probably made up or exaggerated the DDoS claims. Reminds me... I should install AdBlock Plus. I've just been using a hosts file. Oh, and hello... Tools..User Agent Switcher!!!
Can't tell I'm using Firefox unless I choose to tell you.

The webmaster appears to be allied with the folks the brought us popups, popunders, growing/DHTML ads and spyware cookies. I have NO sympathy for him. The ad industry needs to set and enforce some reasonable standards. E.g. they could put out a version of adblock that didn't block ads from sites whose advertisers met those standards (e.g. filesize limits and no popups, popunders, growing/DHTML ads or spyware cookies.)

»www.google.com/search?q= ··· cked.com - currently 0 hits!

Well deserved.

Guess I'm going to be a minority then and say that, no matter how stupid his personal opinion is, and I do think it's really really stupid, DDoS attacks were simply uncalled for.

I guess he needs some cheese with his whine.

He throws out a statement to the world that users of Firefox and AdBlock Plus are thieves and he expect no response? Granted the responses have been a bit extreme but his cavalier use of the word "Terrorist" is a bit much. He needs to take a deep breath, a Xanax and chill out for a while.

I wouldn't describe his attackers are terrorists either, but more of a torch-and-pitchfork mob.

I need to install AdBlock Plus on Firefox at work. Thanks Mister Carlton for reminding me that I don't want ads assaulting my webbrowser.

AdBlock actually helped me at home a while back when an advert on DevArt was actually trying to install a trojan virus on my system. So I logged off IE after my antivirus kicked the virus around, and booted up Firefox w/ AdBlock.

I'm not stealing. I'm protecting myself.

"Why Adblock is bad for the "free" Internet"

Free for who? Free for the cheep business man that is trying to stretch margins at the cost of his customer viewers? If I had to pay for a website to view it I wouldn't view it. The article doesn't imply "free" for me and you.

This is what I hear this guy "saying"..."I'm a cheep a** that doesn't care about my customers and neither should you!!"

I guess his definition of "free" is one that's similar
to that of the spammers and spyware purveyors that want
to exploit peoples' email and browsers in every way
possible for financial gain. Perhaps he is one of them.

It's a pretty bad troll. Effective... but far beyond his control! LOL!

In this case, the only thing right about DDoS is the distributed part. The site just can't handle the traffic pouring in via referrals from slashdot, etc.

He has all his personal information listed in whois. No surprise that a few bad apples decided to make things personal with him.... over the phone, etc. What did he expect after getting the attention of so many, many people?

Would that have made him a Con-Troll freak?

I love my FF and ABP!

Well..this guy is a complete moron. There is a infinite amount of software that blocks ads in internet explorer and firefox..this dipshit hasn't heard of the HOST file either apparently.

FYI, this article actually made me realize this extension was out there to block ads..so I installed it! Thanks for the promotion! I am now a thief!

What a story...

So, we have Monster.com spewing ads which hijack one's computer and this guy has the nerve to say that people who wish to block obtrusive, and sometimes INVASIVE ads "theives" and "terrorists?"

One thing, out of the 200+ comments (on the last story) I did NOT read is this:

Last I heard, the internet was still OVER 50% NON-commercial. That's right. Over half of the known internet exists for information, and is not solely in operation for commerce.
Wish I could find a link, but I know I read this awhile back...
It may have changed a little, but I doubt it's changed completely since then.

That being said (and I'm going off of this), the internet is STILL more about freedom of information than money.
That means the freedom TO say something, and the freedom FROM whatever you choose NOT to view/go to... You can still type in www.AOL.com if you'd like to take the dime tour of things to do and places to go...

Comes down to this; the internet is nothing more than a means to exchange information.

Many of you probably don't remember this (and many others probably do...), but before you had your Internet ExPLOITER browser (littered with security holes and exploitable activeX, pounced upon by nefarious pop ups, and poorly patched piece by piece until it wasn't even the same browser), and even before Netscape, browsers were TEXT based. You had to SPECIFICALLY request what it was that you wanted.

If I don't want to allow 3rd, 4th, 5th party information to reach me, I can rightfully discard those packets if I so choose.

There is no law that says anywhere that you must accept every single packet as part of wishing to view a page.

This argument is so easily lost on some people that I don't know if I want to go much further.

So, back to the Monster.com fiasco...
Does ANYONE know if AdBlock (or similar software) stopped these ads from working???

That'd be the best counterargument in recent news to intelligently debate this with.

Sadly, I don't doubt that this "news" will only bring out the worst in people's flaming skills.

Oh, and about his sob story of being "DDOS'd" (which is still a debatable term IMHO) I have zero sympathy for (EDIT) his cause. He got a form of online dissent against his stance, and he should've been prepared to deal with that. If he can't handle a form of protest, which I don't feel like calling a "terrorist" "attack" then he should have more clearly and calmly spelled out his viewpoint and been prepared to debate it logically, intelligently, and sanely.

(EDIT) - it appears his reference to being terrorized was meant, more specifically, to mean being personally harassed and threatened. I do think that's wrong.

This person seems overly enthusiastic about being a talking head for things which he clearly does not fully understand.

It took all of 30 seconds to get access to his site with firefox. Just go download the Web Developer, and User Agent Switcher extensions. (»addons.mozilla.org) First change your agent to IE7 with the user agent switcher. Then disable Javascript and Redirects with the Web Developer extension.

RFLOL......forgot all about that!

This guy must want attention real bad if anyone want to view is site they know out to get around plugin no problem he must be hurting because is ad revenue is going down and he is only in it for the money.
I run my own small site(Now going on 3 years) and never consider adding ads to it as most internet users do not like them anyway.