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First Comcast Tivo Shots
Very quiet New England launch...
by Karl Bode 02:12PM Monday Oct 22 2007
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TiVO service via Comcast has been a long time coming, considering the deal was originally announced back in 2005. Last week, units finally started showing up for a lucky few households in New England. Zatz Not Funny has the first screenshots we've seen of the boxes and GUI.

As you might expect, the GUI looks like the Comcast DVR and TiVO had a love child. Still no word on what Comcast plans to charge customers once these units see broader deployment. Comcast will eventually be putting TiVO software on Scientific Atlanta boxes as well (the latter making up around 25% of Comcast's userbase).

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JoeyDee
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TiVO is a good thing?

I ask this not with sarcasm....

And I want the TiVO instead of the Comcast DVR... Why?

Joe

kapil
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Re: TiVO is a good thing?

Tivo is vastly superior to any other DVR on the market. The 4000 series ReplayTV was my personal favorite, although not as friendly as Tivo with its cute icons and sounds...but that was before the new owners neutered it.
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quetwo
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It sounds like you've never had a Tivo

It's faster, easier to use, and more reliable. It has features that most DVR's wish they had -- program downloads, wishlists, organizable todo lists, and 3rd party addons (like the photo and music player).

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Re: TiVO is a good thing?

Sounds like Windows media center PC - only more reliable.

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quote:
It sounds like you've never had a Tivo

It's faster, easier to use, and more reliable. It has features that most DVR's wish they had -- program downloads, wishlists, organizable todo lists, and 3rd party addons (like the photo and music player).
I've used TiVos since the beginning. We even have a Series3 HD. I don't think TiVo is worth extra money per month. The iGuide does everything I need.

I understand wishlists but never found a practical use for one. Organizable todo lists? You can prioritize series recordings on iGuide and that's the only organization I need. Photo and music and 3rd party apps? TiVo never had those on DirecTV and I'm betting they don't on the Comcast TiVo either.

Reliability is probably TiVo's biggest asset that I appreciate. On the other hand, the TiVo software is SO unbeleivably slow. I love being able to zip through iGuide's on-screen guide and being able to change my series priorities without a 10 minute "please wait" screen.

TiVo is sort of the iPod of DVRs. It is very good, lots of people swear by them, but there ARE alternatives some of which are pretty good.
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GlobalMind
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Re: TiVO is a good thing?

said by djrobx:


Reliability is probably TiVo's biggest asset that I appreciate. On the other hand, the TiVo software is SO unbeleivably slow. I love being able to zip through iGuide's on-screen guide and being able to change my series priorities without a 10 minute "please wait" screen.
I see the exact opposite. My Moto Comcast DVR is pathetically slow at nearly everything it does. And the DVR interface is really quite poor.

My Series2 TiVo is much faster and the interface is far superior.

I really am interested to see the TiVo code on the Moto box, if nothing else just to see what it can do.

quetwo
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You can't compare the D*TV DirectTivo to the real Tivo. It's like saying all cars are slow because you drive a Pinto; having never tried a 'real car'

GlobalMind
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said by JoeyDee:

I ask this not with sarcasm....

And I want the TiVO instead of the Comcast DVR... Why?

Joe
Joe,

Generally I would say because of the interface. What we see now with the Comcast DVR really is quite poor compared to what we get on the TiVo side.

Now, I'll grant you that I have to have the thing in my hands to really get a sense of whether or not they've done good here or not.

Chances are you won't get all of the TiVo features in the Comcast box, but if the UI change is what I expect...it would be a good thing overall.

I am really considering an HD TiVO and would love to have the Comcast updates as a comparison test. All this before the 2008 race season kicks off, have to have my SPEED in HD!

footballdude
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said by JoeyDee:

And I want the TiVO instead of the Comcast DVR... Why?
When my brother's DirecTivo died he accepted the generic DirecTV DVR as a replacement. I asked him how it worked. He said, "It does everything the Tivo does, just not as well."

There are people who don't think Tivo is superior to other DVRs, but they are few and far between.
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Chiyo
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Looks good

I miss my Tivo and getting something like Tivo that is way better then Comcast's currently P.O.S model is a welcome change.

I hope we can still record via the IEEE 1394 port I love ripping my own xvids and storing them on my media server.
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Re: Looks good

said by Chiyo:

I miss my Tivo and getting something like Tivo that is way better then Comcast's currently P.O.S model is a welcome change.

I hope we can still record via the IEEE 1394 port I love ripping my own xvids and storing them on my media server.
It will be TIVO software on a Comcast Motorola DVR. Later on the Scientific Atlanta DVRs.

All the pics at the link from the story are from a Motorola DCT 3416. »www.zatznotfunny.com/?attachment_id=2673

P.S> This is the 4th Comcast story of the day on the BBR front page. A new record?
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Jwobot

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hahahaha

LMAO they call it Football night in America.

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Re: hahahaha

said by Jwobot:

LMAO they call it Football night in America.
Yeah when I saw that that made me chuckle... Clearly a wannabe ripoff of Hockey Night in Canada.
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Ga Dawg

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Ads?

When do the ads make their way into the Tivo software?

jester121
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Re: Ads?

Not until subscribers are actually PAYING for the right to look at ads.

BabyBear
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When you try an skip a commerical.

MalibuMaxx
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Chesterton, IN

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bottom of the T.V.

In the pic provided anyone notice that the bottom of the menu is cut off???

But then again after all it is a samsung T.V.

LOL

Oh my gosh its bears vs. the bills.

GlobalMind
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Re: bottom of the T.V.

said by MalibuMaxx:

In the pic provided anyone notice that the bottom of the menu is cut off???

But then again after all it is a samsung T.V.

LOL
Ouch! That's cold. Personally I love my Samsung 61".
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hmmmmmm

Cool.

Wonder if/when Cox is going to do this. They were supposed to for ...a year or two now...

One thing that interests me very much is the fact that Rhapsody is now on Tivo

That would be flat out awesome. Wouldn't have to use a computer in the living room - just pipe the tunes through the DVR and out to stereo.

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Re: hmmmmmm

Cox is right in line with Comcast since it is built on the same box they both use. Reason you don't see things from Cox is because they are a private company.
ajwees41
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Last I read CoxTivo will be 6 months after Comcast's rollout, so April most likely.
sonnybadbutt

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Who wants to pay for this?

Built my own PVR with all the tivo advantages. just cost me and old computer laying around and $20 year for the the tv guide. Does all of this and with out the hassle of paying for it.

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Re: Who wants to pay for this?

said by sonnybadbutt:

Built my own PVR with all the tivo advantages. just cost me and old computer laying around and $20 year for the the tv guide. Does all of this and with out the hassle of paying for it.
Can you record 2 encrypted QAM channels at once while watching a previously recorded show?
sonnybadbutt

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Re: Who wants to pay for this?

Working on the answer to this. From what i have read yes you can. Can you connect to your tivo box from home and schedule to recordings. or can you have it stream video to you? I can.

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Re: Who wants to pay for this?

said by sonnybadbutt:

Working on the answer to this. From what i have read yes you can. Can you connect to your tivo box from home and schedule to recordings. or can you have it stream video to you? I can.
With the additional help of a Slingbox, yes I can.

I can also watch VOD and order PPV. I'll also get get callerID on TV, and "Start Over" those shows I recently missed but didn't feel like recording on my DVR when it rolls out... also don't have to worry about SDV not working when it's rolled out.

AreSee

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Sure, that works great for SD content. I do it myself. But good luck when it comes to HD.
sonnybadbutt

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Re: Who wants to pay for this?

All you need is the right card and bam you have HD.
caco
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Looks just like Directv Tivo box

Only difference seems to be the Comcast logo .
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Johnny
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Moto Hardware = Still Suckage

Lipstick on a pig.

The Moto 3416 is a piece of junk. Freezes, forgets your recorded shows, forgets your scheduled recordings, loses channels, you name it.

I got a TiVo HD and my Moto is going back.

TiVo to Go is getting enabled next month.
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pjhofmann

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Re: Moto Hardware = Still Suckage

Don't you think it has something to do with the software on top of that hardware?

I for one won't cast judgement until I start reading reviews on what the Comcast Tivo is like and it's capabilities. I know my biggest pet peeve with the current Moto Box software is the excruciating lag sometimes when I press a button. As a software developer it's inconceivable to me to allow a user interface to come out that is not responsive to the button presses on the remote. From early early indication it seems the Moto Tivo box has cured that, can't wait to hear more.

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Re: Moto Hardware = Still Suckage

said by pjhofmann:

Don't you think it has something to do with the software on top of that hardware?
I think it depends on how deep the control of the software goes. If the TiVo GUI is just sending commands to the baseline Moto software, you will still have the problems.
I for one won't cast judgement until I start reading reviews on what the Comcast Tivo is like and it's capabilities. I know my biggest pet peeve with the current Moto Box software is the excruciating lag sometimes when I press a button.
Yep. I get that, but worse is the freezing and losing my shows, and not having a To Do List, and entering a text phrase for searching has no OuijaBoard.
As a software developer it's inconceivable to me to allow a user interface to come out that is not responsive to the button presses on the remote.
Hear hear! It's unbelievable.
From early early indication it seems the Moto Tivo box has cured that, can't wait to hear more.

pjhofmann

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Re: Moto Hardware = Still Suckage

said by Johnny:

Yep. I get that, but worse is the freezing and losing my shows, and not having a To Do List, and entering a text phrase for searching has no OuijaBoard.
I had those issues, freezing, losing shows, etc. I returned the box to Comcast and received a new one that has worked flawlessly (except for the weak UI) since. The boxes do seem temperamental. I'll blame software till I see/hear differently, if Tivo can pull it off then I'll get it, if not I'll go for the Tivo HD or S3.
Aleck79

join:2003-07-23
College Station, TX

CableCard Based?

I'm curious if it uses a CableCard or if it has Comcast's built in decryption hardware.

I thought all the new hardware had to be CableCard based?

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Nope

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And this is what you get?

For the twice annually 3X inflation price increases?

They can keep it, along with their overpriced service.
ldhurley

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Tallahassee, FL

TIVO is great

They may have overpriced service but as a TIVO user for the past six years I would never give it up. No commercials, speed watching sports events and watching shows when I want.

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Re: TIVO is great

Maybe for you but I was one of the lucky few caught up in the TiVo 7.2 banner ad rollout. Both my Series 2 stand alones were plagued with the banner ads during commercials and sometimes when I would try to FF through commercials I would get a huge still ad that nearly totally obscured what I was fast fowarding through. While most of the time I didn't care since it amounted to commercials over commercials, there were interesting commercials like movie trailers which were ruined by the huge pulsating "Thumbs Up for more Info" banners. If you google for TiVo popups you'll see numerous articles on the practice along with some screen shots.

I also got caught up in some DRM when trying to save until I delete some Fox Shows. Family Guy was one that for a period of time TiVo wouldn't let me save until I delete. While TiVo now claims it was a mistake, the fact that they can do it is annoying.

I also received a number of system message spams. Normally system messages are reserved for "real" system notices like line up changes but I would get ads for Sheryl Crow CDs and crap. Very lame. When I got my first Philips Series 1 the first Christmas they were out it was awesome but since then, 33% price increase and all the ads.

I ended up just dropping them, Saving $20/mo and running my own DVRs.