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Oxygen
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Nesconset, NY | Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct He was selling the stuff... wrong move. Keep it to your self. | |
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ropeguru
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| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct There is definitely a BIG line between downloading and downloading for resale and distribution. Of course he's going to get canned for that one. Even though the US Court system has forgotten that the 1992 audio home recording act allows for the copying of media that you personally own, under the premise that you do NOT re-sell it. However you can give it to anyone that you want, at least that is what the copyright allegedly states.
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stet
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| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct Actually copyright doesn't allow you to just give the copies to anyone you want. What it allows is that you can make a backup copy of media that you own but if you give away or sell the original, the copy must go with it or be destroyed.
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct Technically copyright law doesn't specify this either. As a matter of fact copyright law's only "claim to fame" regarding sharing music is the term "sales and distribution". While this person obviously violated copyright law I still question the validity of the RIAA's other claims. | |
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Oxygen
Times Square can't shine as bright
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join:2001-12-04
Nesconset, NY
| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct said by Omega  :said by Oxygen :He was selling the stuff... wrong move. Keep it to your self. No, the wrong move was selling it. That's what I just said... ?
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irontoes
join:2000-03-18
Phoenix, AZ | Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct He shouldn't have sold it. Wrong move on his part. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it.
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| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct said by djrobx :Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it. Good point, but I'm sticking with my idea about it being a bad idea to sell the stuff.
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| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct said by Doctor Olds :said by irontoes :said by djrobx :Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it. Good point, but I'm sticking with my idea about it being a bad idea to sell the stuff. Actually, I think his advertising to sell stuff did him in. Nahh I think it was the fact he was selling it for profit that got him in hot water.
I think we beat this redundancy joke to the bitter end. Slashbotters errr slashdotters would be proud
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| Seriously, selling the stuff is a really bad idea.
If you actually needed someone to tell you that selling w4rez is a bad idea, you probably are the kind of person that would get nabbed stealing a chocolate bar from your local stop and rob.
I've got one friend like that, who actually sells pirated movies ($5-$10), not the smartest apple in the barrel.
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join:2002-08-01 | That's like burning copies of a cracked version of MS Office 2003 and selling it for considerably less than what it's available for in stores.
Selling something that doesn't belong to you... BIG no no. | |
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ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA
| I do not think those going after people care if you were reselling the stuff or not. They want convictions, because it makes them appear to their stockholders as they are doing something.
I'm waiting for the imprisonment of a 12-year old to catch wind--for publicity sake.  | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| I find it hard to justify a criminal conviction on this sort of thing. Remember people this is copyright infringement we're talking about. Not grand theft. Even though copyright law and the NET act makes concessions to move from civil to criminal there isn't enough information on exactly how much he sold for me to say this is justifiable (at least the jail timem... even if it was deferred). | |
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join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
| Re: Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct I agree there is nowhere near enough information for us to form an opinion. When I make a copy of a movie or album for a friend, I usually get money for the blank media that was used. Technically, I'm selling (not profiting) a copyrighted work.
We don't know if he was bootlegging for profit or not. With them letting him off this easy, I'm guessing he wasn't profiting from the sales. | |
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join:2004-01-30 | Poor Baby!!
It's people like this that make me sick!! | |
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join:2000-03-08
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He was not convicted.
He plead guilty. | |
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DirtyMic
join:2003-11-19
Pompano Beach, FL | Haha Servers the little bastard right! | |
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| Re: Haha said by DirtyMic :Servers the little bastard right! haha classy typo. I like that servers haha.
man i find that so humorous on so many levels.
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ropeguru
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| But this not like file swapping... Here is what makes it different:
Investigators claim he had "$50 million in music and movies" on his PC, and was selling the content to others.
He was SELLING the content. Not just downloading and swapping.
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Warren, MI | Re: But this not like file swapping... Selling is what drew attention to him. But notice that his conviction wasn't for selling, but for possession of copyrighted material.
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Houston, TX
| Re: But this not like file swapping... He couldn't have been convicted just for having copyrighted material on his computer. It had to be for the movies that were still in theaters or something like that. Probably more weight on having material that hasn't even been released to the video market. | |
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DirtyMic
join:2003-11-19
Pompano Beach, FL | BUSTED Serves the Little bastards right! | |
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ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA
| Lock them all up ... And then see what kind of impact it has on society, the economy, etc. Hopefully they can come up with sufficient jail space for the large prison population that would probably double or more in size.
In fact, I am curious to know how many kids of politicians and judges are commiting illegal activity because they think its trivial. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: Lock them all up ... You think trading music and movies online isn't trivial? Of all the things to worry about out there (including the business world) people trading material back and forth while your business still flourishes is hardly something to get worked up about. | |
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rgillis70
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join:2002-12-30
Herndon, VA | Deserved Yeah when I read this early this AM I was wondering how it would get reactions.
They actually let him off easy. Selling stuff like that is wrong, and no amount of justification makes it right. | |
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Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY
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| Profiting He was actually profiting from the acquired content. I didn't read the article, but he could just download it or go to blockbuster, rent it, rip it, burn few copies and sell it.
In NYC, every other corner is offering pirated material.
I think those people are true enemies of **AA. First people buy pirated media for very cheap, and not overpay for genuine product. That way **AA is loosing lots of money.
Filesharing is different. It's not about money but fair-use.
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ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA | How was he collecting money? The article didn't say how much he made nor how he was collecting money on sold goods. | |
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Rexter
YeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
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| Typical mis-information. "An Arizona university student is believed to be the first person in the country to be convicted of a crime under state laws for illegally downloading music and movies from the Internet,"
This is an intended deception. If the word "believed" wasn't in there it would be a flat out lie.
"A federal task force that monitors the Internet caught on to the student and got a warrant, Garza said, adding that Dhaliwal was copying and selling the pirated material."
The truth comes out at the bottom of the article. He was convicted of "copying and selling the pirated material." This is not fair use, and I think that they should have thrown the book at him. He should do time, IMHO, but this is not about P2P programs, he was not arrested for downloading. There is an important distinction here.
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join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA | Deceptive Headline "First State File-Trading Conviction"
He wasn't so much convicted for *trading* files as he was for SELLING files. But I guess the site needs to have misleading headlines to get all its traffic back following all the downtime lately... | |
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join:2002-06-20
San Diego, CA
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| 5,400$ fine If he actually had 50 million dollars worth of stolen property and is essentially only getting 5,400 $ fine, isn't this encouraging everyone to start selling copyrighted material off of the internet? (I know that the 50 mil is overblown and somehow related to potential damages or something, but this still funny)
I wonder if the 5,400 $ fine was somehow related to how much he made off of it? | |
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Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | Re: 5,400$ fine heh..that's a pretty good return! | |
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Aviyano3
join:2004-05-01
Houston, TX
| Yea right selling my azz give me a break guys do you really think he sold the stuff I mean the government can say anything even if he wasnt selling stuff they can say he did and bam he gets fucked. simple point is no matter what u are doing downloading or selling you are going to get blamed for selling if the government wants u 2. | |
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| About time It's about time to enforce some laws. A law isn't much good if they never enforce it. There should be some convictions for eliminating commercials or fast fowarding through them too. I bet half the cab drivers and doctors offices aren't paying for having the radio on either.I say take their drivers license and never let them drive again instead of prison. | |
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| Re: About time This is actually my friend. He was not caught for selling. He was just downloading. They put selling at the end of the article to make it sound like he really did something wrong. He never made a dime out of it. The prosecutor would have made that a major issue which they didnt. His documents even say he was only caught for POSSESSION. FYI the government didnt do him a favor for downloading. They should have tried him as an adult. But the government were assholes and wanted it on his record. I wont be amazed if he sue's whoever wrote the article for slander. Remember he was only caught for possession. Not distribution or even selling it. | |
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| Re: About time Also the $50 million dollar thing is completely a made up figure. If i was not clear. He should have been tried as a juvenile in federal court and got off through juvenile delinquincy. However they gave it to the state to try him under some Counterfitting marks violation. So remember he was not selling. Its amazing how the press lie. | |
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