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Long Beach, CA | ummm... 2 years in jail?
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Camelot One
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| Re: ummm... said by hopeflicker  :2 years in jail? that's ridiculous Why? If he had physically damaged his former employer's store, preventing them from doing business, he would have gotten jail time. I don't see this as any different.
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hopeflicker
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| Re: ummm... said by Camelot One :said by hopeflicker :2 years in jail? that's ridiculous Why? If he had physically damaged his former employer's store, preventing them from doing business, he would have gotten jail time. I don't see this as any different. I guess im just comparing this to some of the sentences that are issued to convicted child molesters. 
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| Re: ummm... In the uk most Convicted child molesters would not get 2 years 
This guy will think twice before doing it again lol 2 years, stuff that! No net for 2 years, id go mad!
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| Re: ummm... said by NeO_JAW :In the uk most Convicted child molesters would not get 2 years This guy will think twice before doing it again lol 2 years, stuff that! No net for 2 years, id go mad! Especially since it's a federal computer crime (FBI jurisdiction) this will be in a Federal Prison. He'll think twice. For someone who had the resources to do all of this, he sure is a stupid nerd...
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| Re: ummm... said by phattieg :said by NeO_JAW :In the uk most Convicted child molesters would not get 2 years This guy will think twice before doing it again lol 2 years, stuff that! No net for 2 years, id go mad! Especially since it's a federal computer crime (FBI jurisdiction) this will be in a Federal Prison. He'll think twice. For someone who had the resources to do all of this, he sure is a stupid nerd... He'll think THREE times actually, but now he has gotten a mini-degree in crimalism, from Prof. Bubba. GG US GOV.
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2 edits | said by phattieg :said by NeO_JAW :In the uk most Convicted child molesters would not get 2 years This guy will think twice before doing it again lol 2 years, stuff that! No net for 2 years, id go mad! Especially since it's a federal computer crime (FBI jurisdiction) this will be in a Federal Prison. He'll think twice. For someone who had the resources to do all of this, he sure is a stupid nerd... You've led a trite and meaningless life. And you're a very bad person...I sentence you to two years in one Federal pound me in the @$$ prison....
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I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's @$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch.
I'm pretty sure I saw your client in a movie one time and he said the exact same thing. | |
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join:2006-01-07
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| said by hopeflicker :said by Camelot One :said by hopeflicker :2 years in jail? that's ridiculous Why? If he had physically damaged his former employer's store, preventing them from doing business, he would have gotten jail time. I don't see this as any different. I guess im just comparing this to some of the sentences that are issued to convicted child molesters. We just a child molester one of our surrounding towns that only received probation for molesting an 11yr old girl. Now that's B******T and this guy gets 2yrs for screwing with someones internet connection. Our justice system is screwed up! | |
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| Re: ummm...
Just think: If he hadn't been stupid enough to sign in with his old employee ID (which should have been immediately disabled when he left) They probably would have never known what hit them (except, of course, that he was likely stupid enough to do it from his home computer, instead of the library.
Lack of thought and preparation will get you every time. He deserves the 2 years just for being a emotionally driven, unthinking moron. | |
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| Re: ummm... said by Fatal Vector :Just think: If he hadn't been stupid enough to sign in with his old employee ID (which should have been immediately disabled when he left) They probably would have never known what hit them (except, of course, that he was likely stupid enough to do it from his home computer, instead of the library. Lack of thought and preparation will get you every time. He deserves the 2 years just for being a emotionally driven, unthinking moron. A lot of libraries also require sign in, which the login name is linked to your house address.
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| said by HyPeRbAnD :We just a child molester one of our surrounding towns that only received probation for molesting an 11yr old girl. Now that's B******T and this guy gets 2yrs for screwing with someones internet connection. Our justice system is screwed up! Sir you need to do some Research
Department of Homeland Security of 2001
Cyber Security Enhancement Act
»www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx···cle=6250
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Carlsbad, NM | Ya, I don't think it's long enough either. | |
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| Re: ummm... said by Toppil :The technician is the only one at fault in the *crime* here because he purposefully used an unsecured account to commit the crime. The former employer is just plain stupid and the customers should sue the ISP and the judge should award them the amount of the criminal's restitution. Well put. 
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kyramilan
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| I'm sure they were all upset they couldn't access Mormon.org and all the porn they don't believe in. 
Talk about sickos: Utah and their "I have 18 wives" men need to spend time in the slammer. | |
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1 edit | Re: ummm... said by kyramilan :I'm sure they were all upset they couldn't access Mormon.org and all the porn they don't believe in. Talk about sickos: Utah and their "I have 18 wives" men need to spend time in the slammer. Uhh, most Mormons don't practice polygamy. It seems some posters here do practice bigotry though.
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join:2003-11-14
Branford, CT | Tell me, who are you to say what grown consenting adults can or cannot do? | |
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Branford, CT | Re: ummm... The above post is directed at kyramilan btw, where did the edit button go all of a sudden? | |
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| said by kyramilan :I'm sure they were all upset they couldn't access Mormon.org and all the porn they don't believe in. Talk about sickos: Utah and their "I have 18 wives" men need to spend time in the slammer. Just the ones that have horns.
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| said by hopeflicker :2 years in jail? that's ridiculous Customers and customer lists are considered assets, especially in a business like this. There is a real dollar amount associated with them. It is tat amount to vandalizing a businesses's assets.
I would try to get the book thrown at anyone that did something like this to my company. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: ummm... "tat amount"?
Try "tantamount".
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| "One of those customers was relying on e-mail for news of an organ donor,"
I am going to call BS. My wife's uncle is on an organ donor waiting list and they gave him a pager and they have a list of phone numbers where to reach him. E-Mail would be the LAST thing any one on an organ donor list would use to find out if they were going to get an organ.
When I did a lot of tech support I used to hear these BS stories all the time. "My dialup has to work, I am waiting on a 10 Million dollar contract!" or "We are losing thousands of dollars a minute!"
I don't believe this for one second. I don't know why people think there is a need to make their case sound extra important. We don't sit around a conference table saying "Yep that router is down. Let's go to lunch and then fix it." If something breaks I bust my ass to get it fixed as fast as humanly possible, if it's upstream from me I ask for updates but I understand that things are not always fixed with the snap of a finger, so I refrain from calling every 10 minutes for an update. | |
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clubs: | Why... One of those customers was relying on e-mail for news of an organ donor.
Why would someone use E-mail for something that important??? | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Why... I was thinking the same thing. Email is probably the least reliable communications method.
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Chesterfield, MO | Re: Why... ...especially considering the perishable nature of an organ! E-mail could get rejected and wait to retry for a few days. That's just NUTS. | |
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North Andover, MA | Re: ISP had bad termination procedures; but guy deserves prison They do it here a 1/2 day before your last day. So your last day you just sit and stare at the computer you can't login to. You can still use your phone I guess. That's for friendly. Otherwise they escort you out and mail your personal belongings. | |
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Michieru2
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hoyleysox
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Long Beach, CA | I know why it took 3 weeks to get service back It probably took 2 weeks to process the telco disconnect order (disconnects are a low priority) and 1 week to process the reconnect order. The systems telco's used to use or still use to communicate with ISPs [and itself] are not very inflexible. | |
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russotto
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Collegeville, PA
| Finally.... an actual appropriate use of computer crime laws. I was beginning to think they could ONLY be used for evil (like imposing criminal punishment to an employee who arguably exceeded his authority, or to people who changed configuration files on their own modems) | |
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hopeflicker
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| Re: Finally.... said by russotto : or to people who changed configuration files on their own modems) If you are talking about hacking a cable modem for speed,I dont think anyone would ever got to jail for something like that.
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| Re: Finally.... said by hopeflicker :If you are talking about hacking a cable modem for speed,I dont think anyone would ever got to jail for something like that. Both things I mentioned have been DSLReportsBBR news stories in the past. The cable modem story concerned Buckeye Cable. The other story concerned a sysadmin who ran one of the distributed computing clients on computers he controlled and was jailed for it. | |
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hopeflicker
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Long Beach, CA | Re: Finally.... I remember the hacking story but it does not say anyone getting jail time.
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| said by russotto :an actual appropriate use of computer crime laws. I was beginning to think they could ONLY be used for evil (like imposing criminal punishment to an employee who arguably exceeded his authority, or to people who changed configuration files on their own modems) Since you "changed configuration files" on your modem, I had to call it in. Sorry!  | |
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Staten Island, NY | Pleaded out manslaughter Can get someone as low as three years, depending on luck/the case.
It's crazy to see this guy on a similar level... | |
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viperpa33s
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| Blames the ISP as well Not only do I blame the guy but I also blame the ISP. When he was terminated they should of deleted his access and they didn't. The place where I work at, that is one of the first things they do when someone gets terminated or quits.
If this guy had access after he got fired, it makes you wonder what other things people who are not authorized can get access to. | |
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pog
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| the guy became a competitor... This was no heat of the moment thing...
Fisher ... went on to work for, and eventually own, another Internet service provider in the area. Fisher then used SBT’s computer passwords ... It seems to me that a lot of time passed between his employment at SBT and his eventual crime.
IOW, this was not merely a disgruntled ex-employee acting out... this was one business sabotaging a competitor, breaking a number of laws along the way.
Of course, as everyone wants to know, why the hell didn't SBT change passwords, etc?
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| Doooh Look that whole "organ donor" thing is utter BS. If you are waiting on an organ and your "best" mode of communication is some stupid po-punk ISP that can't figure out that they got hacked and takes 3 weeks to figure out it was their wireless router that was down...you might as well not get the organ. | |
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| Re: Doooh agreed the whole "organ donor" emotional appeal is completely bogus. Wireless connections are known to be unreliable - besides, the power could have went out and prevented him from retrieving his email. His email is stored on the ISP's servers, so he could check his mail from dialup, starbucks, or even the public library. Check the WISP's TOS/EULA, etc - I guarantee they have disclaimers to guard against customer legal action in the event of inevitable interruption in internet service.
Obviously, this guy was being completely malicious and deserves due punishment.
I also see with clear vision what others point out - the company was GROSSLY negligent in not attempting to secure their assets after terminating/releasing an employee. No different than a store who gives keys to an employee, fires them and doesn't bother changing the locks on their doors.
This is a case where big lawsuits will do some good rather than harm. Sue the shit out of the WISP! | |
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Otterbein, IN | Re: Doooh Wireless connections are known to be unreliable? Your source(s) whom are saying this are known to be uninformed.
Properly installed wireless is highly reliable, in most cases, more reliable than old copper wiring. | |
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West Henrietta, NY | ISP Kicks Cause and effect ... Karma and the law of nature is in our society. That is one of many forces that makes our nation great.
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Former ISP Employee Kicks 170 Customers Offline
ISP had bad termination procedures; but guy deserves prison
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