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| Au revoir! Bonjour,
Vous êtes un voleur, selon la RIAA / MPAA des chiens aux États-Unis de porc capitaliste.
Par conséquent, nous devons démarrer vous de la internets. Mais seulement temporairement. Vous voyez, nous avons déjà une. Vous stupide, Kanniggetts anglais!
Au revoir!
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| gpmoo7
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Montreal, QC | said by cableties:Bonjour, Vous êtes un voleur, selon la RIAA / MPAA des chiens aux États-Unis de porc capitaliste. Par conséquent, nous devons démarrer vous de la internets. Mais seulement temporairement. Vous voyez, nous avons déjà une. Vous stupide, Kanniggetts anglais! I'm French and I can tell that's not French ... Google Translated French at best. | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Au revoir! said by gpmoo7:I'm French and I can tell that's not French ... Google Translated French at best. Usually Google translation does a better job then it did this time. I tried to find out what Kanniggetts means to no avail is it a proper name used as an insult?
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| | |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Au revoir! French.
Surrender to it! They do..... | |
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Phoenix, AZ | Kanniggets: a butchering of the word knights as used by the French Taunter in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time" | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Au revoir! said by AZ_OGM:Kanniggets: a butchering of the word knights as used by the French Taunter in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. "Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time" Thank you! I'll pull up "holy Grail" and watch it again.
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Cleveland, OH | Well, if you are a Monty Python fan, Kaniggets was a bastardized word meaning knights. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Au revoir! I don't even know what he said but reading the reply i have to say it is funny. LMAO.
Good old Monty Python and the flying cirus | |
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| Re: Au revoir! said by gpmoo7:said by cableties:Bonjour, Vous êtes un voleur, selon la RIAA / MPAA des chiens aux États-Unis de porc capitaliste. Par conséquent, nous devons démarrer vous de la internets. Mais seulement temporairement. Vous voyez, nous avons déjà une. Vous stupide, Kanniggetts anglais! I'm French and I can tell that's not French ... Google Translated French at best. I too am French and that made no sense. | |
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| | | | Bonjour gpmoo7!
You are correct! I just typed in to Google and translated it to French (well, Google translate).
Hope folks got a chuckle (that figured it out)...  | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Au revoir! said by cableties:Bonjour gpmoo7! You are correct! I just typed in to Google and translated it to French (well, Google translate). Hope folks got a chuckle (that figured it out)... This is a prime example of why I will never use these translation programs you never know just how it translates out. However 
رئيس جمهور محمود احمدی نژاد به خوردن ساندویچ گوشت ران خوک
so take that....
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| | | | said by gpmoo7:I'm French and I can tell that's not French ... Google Translated French at best. Do French Canadians and Euro French even understand each other? | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Au revoir! Funny, but true story. I'm a French Canadian who visited Paris a few years ago. One night in my hotel room, I was channel flipping when I found a French Canadian television show that had French subtitles!
When I realized just how much the spoken and written word were widely different even though they were the same language, I said to myself "ostie d'tabarnak qu'on parle un lousy french!"
Just try and Google translate THAT!
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| | | | | | Re: Au revoir! said by milnoc:Funny, but true story. I'm a French Canadian who visited Paris a few years ago. One night in my hotel room, I was channel flipping when I found a French Canadian television show that had French subtitles!When I realized just how much the spoken and written word were widely different even though they were the same language, I said to myself "ostie d'tabarnak qu'on parle un lousy french!" Just try and Google translate THAT! Crazy Frogs, why can't they speak Canadian. | |
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| | The death of the independent ISP It's an easy way for the entertainment companies to takeover the ISP's -- hit them with hundreds of thousands of request per day that can't possibly be resolved, wait for the penalties to mount, then ask for a default judgment against the ISP. ISP goes bust. Entertainment company, as lagest creditor, takes over ISP in lieu of payment.
Et voila, The Disney ISP.
Then watch the screws be put to customers for 'infringement'. | |
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| amungusPremium
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| Re: The death of the independent ISP AOL is likely frothing like mad right about now to bring "the internet" back to "Channels" - Disney (who also owns ESPN btw) is also likely very interested, as are many other such companies who would LOVE nothing better than to spoon feed people "the internet" as THEY see it...
I hope you are wrong, but we may be witnessing the beginning of the end of the internet as we know it. | |
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|  jaaPremium,MVM
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| said by MaynardKrebs:It's an easy way for the entertainment companies to takeover the ISP's -- hit them with hundreds of thousands of request per day that can't possibly be resolved, wait for the penalties to mount, then ask for a default judgment against the ISP. The 150,000 is across all ISPs. I could do 150,000 in a day on my PC. I would create a print file, and then outsource it to a mail house.
$45 per letter?? Outsource it to me for half that!!
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kudos:4 |  Couple points
2. It will be interesting to see the French results as they crack down and how they automate that process due to the threat of gov't action hanging over their head. The ISPs will adjust and like any ongoing process they will find ways to lower the costs. | |
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| | | Re: Couple points Who's side are you on, anyways?? | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Couple points said by Video Guy :Who's side are you on, anyways?? I'm on the side of the copyright holders who would like to get paid and not have their product taken without compensation. | |
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| chimera
join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC | It's not that simple since they don't have a single centralized database for all routing statements in the entire company. Instead it often takes a senior engineer who has the right to find where the IP address is on their network, then what the MAC address of said device is, then the household that is registered with said MAC address which is then forwarded to the billing department where this can be sorted out. | |
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| | | said by Romney2012:1 - TWC is full of it. The process could be easily automated. All it is is a database lookup on 2 databases. Check the log files and check the customer database. Pump out a list; a form letter; and a dozen clerks to check for errors and make sure the forms are mailed. TWC has no problem mailing out bills to tens of millions of customers per month. 2. It will be interesting to see the French results as they crack down and how they automate that process due to the threat of gov't action hanging over their head. The ISPs will adjust and like any ongoing process they will find ways to lower the costs. You are full of it.
If they did what you say over half of the people that got these letter would be in error. IP's can be changed evey hour and if they start this crap you will see user changing there IP many times a day. That in turn will make it even harder for the ISP to correctly ID the IP during that hour of use.
Remember the logs are on many different servers all over the USA and each user is only stored in a location where he lives on the day, hour, minute, and second he made the connection to some thing illegal or they made a connection to him.
This is a lot of work and it must be triple checked, or the accused customer will come back and sue the ISP for falsely give out the wrong information.
If they start do 150,000 customer a day the ISP will go broke when all this customer accounts are terminated for a repeat offense. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | I side with the Pirates, simply because the entertainment industry keeps wanting to take away our rights as customers.
As someone who buys movies I have to deal with their "Anti-Piracy ads", Previews, FBI and Interpol warnings even before i get to the menu. If one pirates the movie they get right to the movie. What a great industry we have, where the legit copies keep getting more and more work for the consumer. PC Games are the worst in this, some of their DRM has broken systems.
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| | | said by Romney2012:1 - TWC is full of it. The process could be easily automated. All it is is a database lookup on 2 databases. Check the log files and check the customer database. Pump out a list; a form letter; and a dozen clerks to check for errors and make sure the forms are mailed. TWC has no problem mailing out bills to tens of millions of customers per month. BULL. Pure bull. They send the bills easily because a system already exists. They probably don't set up databases that track each ip a customer uses since they never thought they'd have to keep track of it other than in raw logs.
said by jaa:The 150,000 is across all ISPs. I could do 150,000 in a day on my PC. I would create a print file, and then outsource it to a mail house. $45 per letter?? Outsource it to me for half that!! BULL for the same reason. Unless you were trying to be funny. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Couple points said by HesDeadJim :said by Romney2012:1 - TWC is full of it. The process could be easily automated. All it is is a database lookup on 2 databases. Check the log files and check the customer database. Pump out a list; a form letter; and a dozen clerks to check for errors and make sure the forms are mailed. TWC has no problem mailing out bills to tens of millions of customers per month. They send the bills easily because a system already exists. So create a system. Big deal. Even mediocre programmers could code this in a few days. | |
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Keller, TX | Re: Couple points said by Romney2012:said by HesDeadJim :said by Romney2012:1 - TWC is full of it. The process could be easily automated. All it is is a database lookup on 2 databases. Check the log files and check the customer database. Pump out a list; a form letter; and a dozen clerks to check for errors and make sure the forms are mailed. TWC has no problem mailing out bills to tens of millions of customers per month. They send the bills easily because a system already exists. So create a system. Big deal. Even mediocre programmers could code this in a few days. So ISP's should spend money to create a system to generate income for an outside entity?
What's the incentive?
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| | | | | | Re: Couple points You got that right and you can add to that, the fact if they do this the ISP will have to terminate there own customer and will be cutting off there own arm. | |
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2 edits | Just tag everybody At 150,000 ips a day it would take roughly 427 day to to hit the entire population of 64,000,000. Surly not everybody has an IP, Yet.
Wouldn't it just be quicker to hand over all the isp user info since thats what they want anyway. | |
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AVonGaussPremium
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Boynton Beach, FL | 150,000? 150,000? Thats absurd, how about change the law to fine the submitter if they submit a duplicate request within a 30 day period and see what happens. | |
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| conflict of (shareholder) interests I doubt an ISP would like to lose 1% of their customer base per day on such nonsense. In less than a year... no users... time to shut down the company. Piracy built the internet from what is was (government & academic) network, to dialup- then broadband networks. Not much application for capitalism.. it's the residential customer who transformed the network to world-wide use and BILLIONS in profit for teleom industry (cable companies included).
Much like getting rid of drivers on the road who can't drive a car for speeding. Tell GM, Ford, and Chrysler that they have to make 1/200th the amount of cars they're used to making beause we won't let anyone drive anymore. You can't rid yourself of the pirates and remain a $ PROFITABLE $ network for very long. Watch how (inevitably) the pendulum swings back.... | |
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Washington, DC | Re: conflict of (shareholder) interests Don't worry, this will most likely result in riots. France likes riots. | |
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| | | said by tmc8080:Much like getting rid of drivers on the road who can't drive a car for speeding. Tell GM, Ford, and Chrysler that they have to make 1/200th the amount of cars they're used to making beause we won't let anyone drive anymore. You can't rid yourself of the pirates and remain a $ PROFITABLE $ network for very long. Watch how (inevitably) the pendulum swings back.... The reason the people are even allowed to drive at all is because the government figured out long ago that a mobile population earns more TAXABLE income. If no one could drive, we'd be back to an agrarian economy and the IRS would be out of business. | |
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| | Umm... So the RIAA is Evil, ISPs are Evil, Artists Suck...
If Artists suck so bad, why are people stealing music...?
Simple solution to all this, stop thieving media... | |
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| | Better solution Here is another simple solution, stop listening to music. Stop buying it stop downloading it stop listening to it stop singing it stop humming it stop thinking about it at all!
Starve these big rich companies out of business and see how they like being oppressed for a while. Ultimately, no company in the world could exist without customers. A company could make all the content it could possibly make but if nobody wants it AT ALL that company will go out of business.
All of this is about greed, GREED is destroying the world! stop greed before it kills us all. When a loaf of bread is $1000 at the grocery store and only big greedy rich music executives can afford it then you will see some rioting all over but by then it will be too late and greed will be the victor. Whats that greedy guy fav saying on cnbc money channel? oh yeah, STOP TRADING! so it is better to just STOP BUYING!
Maybe as consumers we can use greed to our advantage by hoarding our money and don't buy anything that is not neccessary like only buy food clothing and pay bills? Don't even turn the radio on in the car anymore, don't watch or go to the movies anymore. Who needs to spend hundreds of dollars on concert tickets when you can spend more time with your family/friends instead? We don't really NEED any form of entertainment at all. If we stop bothering with all forms of entertainment for one year or two years we will force the weak to go out of business and only the strong and the smart will survive and figure out they better not mess with us again. | |
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| ISPs turning away customers? What industry can actively turn away customers at gigantic rates and then expect to stay in business?
What democracy can actively piss off loads of citizens at gigantic rates and expect to stay in business?
Sorry but copyrights are becoming worse then patents. Copyright trolls are doing far more damage then patent trolls. | |
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Middle Island, NY | LOL Damn, the French can't even win an internet war. Typical!!
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| They just go elsewhere. As noted in the newspost itself, users will just flock to other piracy options. Usenet was mentioned, but also "other untrackable" options....
encrypted p2p is already here, but it is slow because not a lot of people use it. Additionally, you can spend $10-15 a month or so on a VPN (in a country other then France) which would allow you to download using a completely different IP address, in a country that does not answer to any French laws, essentially making you completely anonymous, as such VPN providers simply don't keep records.
People WILL get their pirated materials. And the deeper you push the pirates, the harder it will be to track them. The industry just keeps on shooting their own feet here.
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1 edit | Re: They just go elsewhere. said by maartena:...the deeper you push the pirates, the harder it will be to track them. The industry just keeps on shooting their own feet here. It's so true. They've completely lost touch with consumer realities and clung to old licensing & distribution models.
There are legions of self-limited infringers who think it's wrong to download but they're gonna grab that french cop TV series or bollywood film they cannot, for myriad antiquated reasons, purchase in their own market. Below is what I consider a historically accurate expat pathway to compromised ethics.
Learns bittorrent to get that brit soap s/he can't live without, learns to update router firmware to resolve connection loads, finds a treasure trove of quality BBC/C4/ITV content and friendly expats just like him/her rejoicing in their britTV reunion, buys a faster ISP tier, invests in a slew of harddrives and TV-PC conversion hardware, can now barely tolerate inferior local TV (yes. it's true) and is downloading more, gets nervous about MsM PR/legal static and the transparency of bittorrent, buys usenet access and and learns how to manage nzb and par2 software, direct-download hosting sites emerge so s/he says goodbye to usenet costs & hassle, ddl hosts enjoy an patronage explosion so increases barriers to free use, s/he buys pre-paid access, a hundred ddl sites crop up and the desired content gets fragmented across a dozen sites, the hassle increase & dirty scam feeling of these anti-social ddl sites gets too much, s/he moves back to the bittorrent community and mitigates risk by purchasing an off-shore VPN + server space.
Now s/he's a technical pro using automated RSS downloads with painless streaming to TV and watching content s/he cannot otherwise obtain and .... cancels the local cableTV service.
People can vilify the moral decline of this person all day long but it's a totally reactive chain of events driven by, in this case, a failure of Brit TV to go global. This consumer got what s/he wanted by expending non-trivial effort and expense. Free marketeers take note. | |
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Willoughby, OH | RIAA MPAA and tthe other do nothings Maybe, naw, but maybe they track down all the spammers and jail their rotten useless butts OR because they in bed with the ISP around the world fix their e-mail to prevent spamming | |
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| Counter productive. I don't know, but if you ask me, kicking people off the internet for stealing music, or movies, or whatever, makes it impossible for them to reform, and consume newer forms of distribution.
Maybe that is the point, and the plan?
They can say that alternative distribution options are failing, so why should they support them. They will neglect to mention the majority of the people who might have been interested in this alternative, are now banned from the network in which they could have done do.
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| Out with the new, in with the old. Sneaker net anyone?
Sure it's slower and less reliable then P2P or usenet, but hey, it worked.
I remember working at a TV repair shop. The owner had a customer that would drop by every week. He had screener copies of movies. The quality was ok to pretty good.
In exchange for the screeners the guy got free TV repairs.
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