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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Kentucky Election Fraud said by Mr Fel:Someone wake me up when there's some good news from Kentucky. Well I love Colonel Sanders chicken. | |
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 |  Mr FelFlynn LivesPremium join:2008-03-17 Louisville, KY | Thanks guys, at least the world enjoys our chicken  | |
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 |  axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | Wow... the only upside I can see is that I'm still shocked by official fraud and corruption. | |
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 ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | Re: EU leaders back risk-sharing in broadband
Sounds like the EU incumbent operators are getting an incentive to run FTTH by removing regulation of wholesale access rates. This in effect can shut out 3rd party ISPs from using the fiber because they could then be non-competitive compared to the incumbent operators. Wow, sounds like the EU is taking lessons from US fiber policy. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: EU leaders back risk-sharing in broadband Yeah--- the wrong lessons. | |
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 |  axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC Reviews:
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1 edit | Wouldn't Korea or Japan be a better role model when it comes to fiber policy? We only have one company doing FTTH, and it was considered risky for them.
On the topic of "fiber prevents capping", I think that people will always find a use for more bandwidth, and hardware for bandwidth isn't unlimited. The only way to end capping is to design the network to support every person pushing 100% 24 hours a day. That's unnecessary, though I think companies that build networks should plan for customers to use more bandwidth than they expect. | |
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 |  | | Hey, at least their incumbents allow competitors on their network, with whatever access fees. Here in good old US the the incumbents were specifically told they do not need to share any fiber with nasty CLEC or ISP competitors.
What got me most about this article was EU spending $411B on broadband. Compare that to the $7B allocated to the US NTIA/RUS Broadband Technology Opportunity program. | |
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 |  |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 3 edits | Re: EU leaders back risk-sharing in broadband said by Supervisor:What got me most about this article was EU spending $411B on broadband. Compare that to the $7B allocated to the US NTIA/RUS Broadband Technology Opportunity program. That wasn't government money mentioned. It was money to be spent by the incumbents themselves. And the deregulation was being used to encourage them to spend it. Somewhat different than the US Stimulus pkg which is government money grants.
The proposal also doesn't mention how long it will take for the incumbents to spend that money for the upgrades. It could be 2 yrs, 5 yrs, 10 yrs; who knows??
Separate from the risk-sharing pact is a EU Stimulus pkg that has set aside 5 billion euro for both energy/broadband which is similar to the US stimulus pkg. Only 1 billion euro is for broadband: »www.euractiv.com/en/opinion/eu-l···e-180502 -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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 |  | | Well I think it makes sense that when a private company puts in new infrastructure that they get a few years of exclusivity. As soon as fiber has been around for a while, regulators will open it up. | |
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 | | If everyone had FiOS Well guess what? Not everyone has FiOS. Not by a long shot. So instead of boasting about having FiOS how about an article for the rest of us? | |
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 |  | | Re: If everyone had FiOS Lol yeah, most of the country will NEVER have FiOS. Wishful thinking to expect FTTP within the next 10 years in CO | |
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 |  Simba7 join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | Hey Verizon, Come to Montana then.
Oh wait.. Like that'll happen.. | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: If everyone had FiOS said by Simba7:Hey Verizon, Come to Montana then. Oh wait.. Like that'll happen.. Convice about 15-20 millon of your closest friends to move there and they might. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: If everyone had FiOS Just get your town to make their own fiber network. They can offer the internet and rent out access to cable companies. | |
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 Simba7 join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | Cable demand "white space" revision Why would it interfere with Cable communications? It wouldn't, unless their cable shielding is inferior. It's like saying "Broadcast TV will interfere with Cable's signals". WTH?
I think the thought of free low-speed internet scares the crap out of these huge corporations.
..not to mention EarthLink, it'd kill off Dialup.. Period. -- Bresnan 15M/1M|Mine[P4HT 3.2GHz,2GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,WinXP]|Wife's[P4 2.4GHz,1GB RAM,60GB HDD,WinXP]|Router[2xP3@1GHz,640MB RAM,18GB HDD,Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX,Kingston KNE100TX,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,iPro/1000DP,Blitz BWI715,Gentoo] | |
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 |  tschmidtPremium,MVM join:2000-11-12 Milford, NH kudos:4 | Re: Cable demand "white space" revision I think Cable industry concern is both competitive and technical.
On the technical front concern is even at low power nearby transmitters will interfere with poorly shielded consumer A/V gear.
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Cable demand "white space" revision said by tschmidt:I think Cable industry concern is both competitive and technical. On the technical front concern is even at low power nearby transmitters will interfere with poorly shielded consumer A/V gear. /tom it's competiton pure and simple. They wouldn't be the least concerned if we were talking about emergency responders using "white space" | |
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 |  | | said by Simba7:Why would it interfere with Cable communications? It wouldn't, unless their cable shielding is inferior. It's like saying "Broadcast TV will interfere with Cable's signals". WTH? Their concern probably has to do with interference to received signals at the headend. Broadcast stations are still received over the air, using high gain antennas. If white space devices proliferate, it could cause interference problems.
Yeah, there's probably a certain element of anti-competitiveness in it as well. | |
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 |  |  Vchat20Landing is the REAL challengePremium join:2003-09-16 Columbus, OH Reviews:
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| Re: Cable demand "white space" revision said by fifty nine:said by Simba7:Why would it interfere with Cable communications? It wouldn't, unless their cable shielding is inferior. It's like saying "Broadcast TV will interfere with Cable's signals". WTH? Their concern probably has to do with interference to received signals at the headend. Broadcast stations are still received over the air, using high gain antennas. If white space devices proliferate, it could cause interference problems. Yeah, there's probably a certain element of anti-competitiveness in it as well. This is not always the case. Some use direct feeds either via fiber or some other sort of high bandwidth pipe. Granted, it's a crapshoot on what stations and cable providers do this. Those that don't, of course, still use the old standby of high-gain antennas.
Though with the article it's hard to say exactly what their agenda is. Could be trying to kill off broadband competition against their own services, could be the aforementioned concern over the OTA feeds to their headends, and of course it could also be ignorance abounds that they think it'll ingress into their cable plant-In which the only remote case I could see is at the consumer residence where these whitespace devices are in use and ingress into the cable plant through unterminate splits, bad cable, low grade shielding RG59, etc.. -- I swear, some people should have pace-makers installed to free up the resources. Breathing and heart beat taxes their whole system, all of their brain cells wasted on life support.-two bit brains, and the second bit is wasted on parity! ~head_spaz | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Cable demand "white space" revision said by Vchat20:This is not always the case. Some use direct feeds either via fiber or some other sort of high bandwidth pipe. Granted, it's a crapshoot on what stations and cable providers do this. Those that don't, of course, still use the old standby of high-gain antennas.
Not everyone uses fiber feeds, not by a long shot. Mostly larger stations (big four O&Os and affiliates) that opt for retransmission consent (versus must carry) use fiber feeds and satellite. Even DirecTV has been using antennas in many areas to receive local channels. Locally, Service Electric had to drop WTBY because when they switched to digital exclusively the signal was not receivable at the headend. It's going to become a bigger issue when everyone finally drops the analog. The smaller stations that depend on must carry will end up suffering. | |
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 |  |  |  |  Vchat20Landing is the REAL challengePremium join:2003-09-16 Columbus, OH | Re: Cable demand "white space" revision Like I said: It's a crapshoot. | |
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 | | No Excuse for not having capacity IT IS ALL ABOUT GREED and LACK a COMPETITION
watch as canada TURNS ON THE GREED and see how greed also destroys | |
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