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Few crowds for Evo 4G

No wonder since they have really bad 4G coverage and they charge everyone extra $10/mo for it even though majority of people won't be able to use it anytime soon. And if you're OK with this you can get it cheaper online.
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Re: Few crowds for Evo 4G

Reviews have been mixed on the HTC EVO. Speed and features have been highly rated. But the battery life has been abysmal(even when 4G has been turned off) and the size has been criticized for being a little too big for many people.

Some of the many reviews:
»news.google.com/news/search?pz=1···coring=n
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I'm just glad I got mine... the activation was having trouble out here in OH as well, maybe it was just a national issue?

I must say, typing on the 4.3" screen is really a pleasure after using my touch pro for so long. And WiFi works on this thing too. The autocomplete / spelling cotrrction is really helping while typing this message.

Overall the EVO and Android are making a pretty darn good impression on me so far.

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After getting the phone, here is the nitty gritty of the plans and costs you will encounter for the EVO:
»shop.sprint.com/en/shop/why_spri···ils.html
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Re: Few crowds for Evo 4G

I don't have a problem with the the extra $10/mo as long as I could get 4G. Since there is no 4G coverage in Des Moines, IA there is no way I would pay $10/mo for a service I can't receive.
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Re: Few crowds for Evo 4G

said by Anonymous:

I don't have a problem with the the extra $10/mo as long as I could get 4G. Since there is no 4G coverage in Des Moines, IA there is no way I would pay $10/mo for a service I can't receive.
Also, 4G(either Wimax or the upcoming LTE) is not as critical as it was once touted to be. Widespread WiFi hotspots(home, hotels, restaurants, coffee shops, fast food joints, bookstores, etc) are making 4G less critical for travelling road warriors using smartphones with WiFi capabilities. Sure 4G will be nice, but most people(even heavy data users) can get by without it most of the time.
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Re: Few crowds for Evo 4G

Well I can't (or won't). Thinking about using it to replace the landline once I get back to America if the coverage is good enough. It's been a godsend here in Japan not to have to use the landlady's pathetic "wireless" solution. I regularly get 5/.5 to 6/1 internationally and I download and upload all day and night.

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Not only is it $10 a month extra for the privilege of using the device, they also want $30 a month for tethering. In that way, I've got my Palm Pre already set up with the same Hotspot tether feature (via homebrew) for $40 less a month.

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EVOs sold out in Dallas

I can only speak for the Dallas area, where 4G is up and running - EVOs were completely sold out of pretty much every store by noon today. I went to at least 10 Sprint stores, as well as major resellers (ie Best Buy, et al) all afternoon - and ended up having one of the stores set up an overnight shipment for me to arrive tomorrow.
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Evo is likely sold through more channels

Evo is sold through Sprint stores, every phone reseller that carries Sprint, Radio Shack (5000 stores), Best Buy (1000 stores) and Walmart online. How many channels was iPhone sold through the first weekend? Most people want to buy iPhone at an Apple store but there are only a couple/few stored per market, so long lines. There are dozens of other local channels for the Evo.

Most went to Radio Shack because they waived the mail-in rebate.

Do a google news search and you'll see it sold out all over the country. Many on androidcentral said stores have sold out.

The big question is, how many were available the first weekend? They didn't have enough.

Apple sold about 1M per weekend for each iPhone launch. If Evo sold 500K, it would still be 5x greater than the first Droid launch. I'm guessing 300K-500K... they had a lot of pre-orders.

BTW, I got mine around noon. Heard that store sold out by 2PM.

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AOL + MSFT

A negative plus a negative is not a positive.

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Speeds Aren't Everything.

There was an article there about how 3rd party ISP's will fail because the other ISP's will have fast speeds.

It's pretty bad here in Canada with CAPS and the major ISPs. There's quite a bit of demand for ISPs like teksavvy who might have slower speeds, but have alot more options for people who need alot of bandwidth.

As long as ISPs keep capping their connections and throttling them, there's opportunities for 3rd party isp's to compete in those areas.

Whats the point of super fast internet, when you can theoretically hit the cap within a day or two?

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Will the Chrome OS be a game changer?

Having used it for a few months the simple answer is a resounding no. It does nothing well.

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Re: Will the Chrome OS be a game changer?

said by Z80A:

Having used it for a few months the simple answer is a resounding no. It does nothing well.
Used it on what device?
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Re: Will the Chrome OS be a game changer?

Parallels VM. It ran fine but its real netbook OS competition like Windows 7 starter and Ubuntu Linux are simply superior in every way and are getting better as netbooks become more powerful. Even with additional apps, it is very weak and being largely cloud based makes it even weaker. Google is better off porting Android to small devices not the other way around.

Chrome OS was a good idea when Celerons were the CPU of choice but the newest Atoms are getting faster and faster as are their graphics bits. New Atom N270 and N450 netbooks are very speedy and don't need a gutted OS to run well. People are expecting fuller more capable operating systems with truckloads of apps like Android, iPhone OS and Windows 7 Starter.

So then what to use a gutted OS like Chrome on? The new iPad competitors like the Eee-Pad? Asus is opting for Windows 7 because the newest technology is fast enough and power efficient enough to do it. Would it be even simpler devices? For that Android with its exponentially growing user and developer base is a better option to hit the ground running with.

Chrome OS has no place now and certainly won't have a place next year. For anything like a netbook or iPad it's Windows 7 or Linux and for anything smaller it's Android.

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Re: Will the Chrome OS be a game changer?

Thanks for reply. It looks like Microsoft's Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie thinks that Chrome OS will eclipse Android and eventually replace it. I hate to disagree with such an eminent authority, but I suspect Android(in smartphones & tablets) will become the dominant OS from Google.
»mobile.venturebeat.com/2010/06/0···-future/
Microsoft Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie was on hand to answer Ballmer’s question: “Android is a bet on the past. Chrome is a bet on the future.” Android is still about installing applications on a specific device. Chrome OS is designed for a future where everything is online, in the cloud.

Ballmer said he doesn’t understand why Google has both Chrome and Android. Microsoft is always struggling to bring more coherence to its operating systems, Ballmer pointed out, so why is Google starting out incoherent?
Sounds like Ballmer subscribes to the idea of all data will reside online theory and that Chrome OS is better at that than Android.

For tablets, I see four OSs competing:
Android
Some compact version of Win 7
Linux
WebOS from HP(who just bought Palm)
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Re: Will the Chrome OS be a game changer?

For tablets I don't see Linux doing much of anything just as it is nothing in the desktop space. In tablets I see only two operating systems seriously competing, Windows 7 and iPhone OS. New devices like the Eee-Pad running some power sipping dual core Atom are what will compete with iPad and Atom already runs Windows 7 beautifully with 10 hour battery life and Windows 7 already has great touch support. And of course Windows 7 supports multitasking (obviously), runs Flash, runs Office, runs games, runs eReaders, runs everything virtually everyone wants to run. Companies like Asus aren't going to want to reinvent the wheel. They're in the hardware business, not trying to convince people to switch software business.

WebOS may be technically compelling but it won't ever eclipse Windows 7 and won't penetrate the Cupertino reality distortion field. HP is big but not big enough to catch up to Apple and Microsoft in touch, developer base and hype.
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i am still not fully sold on the cloud being the future. sure my internet is dependable but internet will never be as fast as local storage and local storage is always available.
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Re: Will the Chrome OS be a game changer?

Neither am I and Google's recent security problems make me even more wary. When you have cloud based content 'expects' like Facebook sending people the wrong IMs, how long before someone screws something up and some people are logging in and seeing someone else's information?

Add to that the continued trend toward capping data, particularly mobile data as we will see tomorrow from AT&T and the cloud is not only unattractive but could end up being priced out of the market by limited data plans cloud based planforms will have to rely on.

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How Android, Chrome, and the iPad are shielding us from malw

You'd have thought Google would know better than to use/allow IE. They must have been using XP as full administrators. IE7/8 in Vista/7 have a sandbox, after something is let out of the sandbox that is on the user.

"a user gives the app certain permissions when it runs, and the app can't extend beyond those permissions"; people already bitch about having to click one "Yes" or "No" button in UAC pop ups yet on other OSes they'd go through so much more trouble?

But as the article says, you can have Apple or Google dictate how you use your device, if people think MS owns/controls your PC, you ain't seen nothing yet. I still access my bank account on Windows..
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