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by Revcb 06:53PM Friday Mar 23 2012

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KrK
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Facebook has weighed in; Says go to hell.

Facebook has not only suggested they may sue people who demand Facebook access as a condition of employment/job interview process, but has suggested that people making these demands open themselves up to a host of legal liability issues and outright seems to be suggesting ways to sue them, while telling users to protect their rights.

Even better, the Democratic Senator from Connecticut is introducing a bill that would make the practice of demanding passwords or access to job seeker's Facebook (and most likely other online sites) accounts illegal.

»www.politico.com/news/stories/03···325.html
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FFH
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Re: Facebook has weighed in; Says go to hell.

Yet the same day they drop this little legal gem:
If you start a web site with the word book in the domain name they will sue you.
»news.yahoo.com/facebook-now-clai···547.html

Facebook has just tightened its grip on the intellectual property right to yet another incredibly generic, remarkably common word: "book." As if the also generic and common words "face", "poke" and "wall" weren't enough, the company added "book" to its list of do-not-touch terms in a newly revised user agreement. This means that if you use the word "book" on the Internet in a way that Facebook or its lawyers deem unsavory, the social network can decide to sue you. This is not a joke.

There have already been three "book"-related legal battles -- one for Teachbook, one for Shagbook and one for Lamebook, and in the case of the former, it looks like Facebook is winning. While they settled with Lamebook out of court, Facebook filed suit against Shagbook last August and cleared the first legal hurdle to take down Teachbook a few weeks later.

signed into Facebook in the past few hours, tacitly agreeing that Facebook owns part of her site's name. As University of Minnesota Law Professor William McGeveran explained to Ars Technica, who spotted the key change in the agreement on Friday afternoon, "They hope that by putting it in TOS (terms of service) they can improve the enforceability of their asserted trademark rights."


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»www.politico.com/2012-election/


KrK
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Re: Facebook has weighed in; Says go to hell.

I could see them getting away with it in certain cases.... names like "PostBook" or "Lamebook" (already suing) or "SocialBook" etc etc yadda yadda.... they'd most likely win.

However, if it was something like Bookstorage or BookFAQ or KnowledgeBook I think they'd likely not touch it.

You never know though.
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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI
said by FFH:

Yet the same day they drop this little legal gem:
If you start a web site with the word book in the domain name they will sue you.

Good thing for me I dumped my Facebook [tm] account just a few days ago, eh?

My reasons were different, but that just confirmed the wisdom of my decision.

dib22

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Kansas City, MO

The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

The Level3 chair said the "deregulation" word

KrK
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Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

Actually, he said the FCC and the Government need to crack down on AT&T and Verizon's anti-competitive behavior and as a result create lower prices, better service, higher speed, unlimited, no caps or overages, an Internet future.

Basically he said more cell sites need to be built, and that their needs to be competition in providing service to the sites, making it cheaper for everyone who uses them.
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dib22

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Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

said by KrK:

... and that their needs to be competition in providing service to the sites, making it cheaper for everyone who uses them.

Yup... and I agree. These local franchise laws are holding us back.
sonicmerlin

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Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

said by dib22:

said by KrK:

... and that their needs to be competition in providing service to the sites, making it cheaper for everyone who uses them.

Yup... and I agree. These local franchise laws are holding us back.

Local franchises...? What the devil are you talking about? We're talking wireless here you tool.

dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

said by sonicmerlin:

Local franchises...? What the devil are you talking about? We're talking wireless here you tool.

I'm the tool? Do realize that wireless is only wireless from the tower to the handset?

I wonder why level3 can't just run wires to the towers whenever they want... I wonder what could be keeping them from it...

KrK
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Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

That's already been explained. Anti competitive behavior from AT&T and Verizon. That's why cell tower sites don't go with other companies. Level3 could service many sites, but AT&T and Verizon threaten penalty pricing vs companies who don't go almost exclusively with them for backhaul. Level3 and others can't even get a chance.

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dib22

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Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

said by KrK:

That's already been explained. Anti competitive behavior from AT&T and Verizon. That's why cell tower sites don't go with other companies. Level3 could service many sites, but AT&T and Verizon threaten penalty pricing vs companies who don't go almost exclusively with them for backhaul. Level3 and others can't even get a chance.

I was under the impression that state and local laws gave franchise to the LEC... if it wasn't for these laws AT&T would have re-wired NY by now (they wired it in the first place, Bell Atlantic absorbed NYNEX and GTE and became Verizon ).

If you are saying that they are only controlling competition by price I fear you are missing something important.

KrK
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Re: The Solution To The Wireless Spectrum Shortage: More Wires

Did you even read the article?

He explained exactly what is happening.

battleop

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"FCC and the Government need to crack down on AT&T and Verizon's anti-competitive behavior"

It's what needs to happen but it won't until someone else in the telecom sector out spends the AT&T / Verizon lobby machine.
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sonicmerlin

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said by KrK:

Actually, he said the FCC and the Government need to crack down on AT&T and Verizon's anti-competitive behavior and as a result create lower prices, better service, higher speed, unlimited, no caps or overages, an Internet future.

Basically he said more cell sites need to be built, and that their needs to be competition in providing service to the sites, making it cheaper for everyone who uses them.

Heck in Europe the density of cell sites among comparable population densities is *three times higher* than in the US.

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI
There's another issue: ISTM the likes of VZ and "AT&T" have no cause to whine about a lack of wireless spectrum when they're halting rollouts of wired broadband (upgrades), such as FiOS and U-Verse, to fixed locations, choosing instead to service them with wireless.
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Operators cut handset subsidies, End ETFs then

Not that an ETF has effected me but if they bring this to the US it seems logical that they should end the ETF as well. We know they wont but signing up a user has no real costs any more since its all done by computer, if they end cheap smartphones here in the US there is no need for the ETF any more.
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KrK
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Re: Operators cut handset subsidies, End ETFs then

The US will still have a problem with Carrier specific phones. Even the LTE phones, while hopefully addressing this in a better fashion will still have to cover a patchwork of spectrum to be able to be truly "Carrier agnostic".
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chgo_man99

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Re: Operators cut handset subsidies, End ETFs then

Ain't gonna happen, that's why Nokia has always had the problem getting popular into US. They did not want to manufacture carrier specific phones and sell on contract.

JasonOD

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Clearwire just opened a bag of hurt

If they expect to wholesale LTE access, they should also expect a lot of push-back. ATT & Verizon will be vehemently against this.