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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Re: Kindle Fire tablets have ads, you won't be able to opt out! I'm guessing ads and PURCHASED items (books, movies, tv shows etc.) are prepaid for deliviery, and that the limit is on data for personal web surfing and downloads | |
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|  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Is the Kindle Fire really still relevant? The Google Nexus 7 is far more functional, and with Apple's rumored 7" tablet coming out, there will even more competition at the ~$200 price point.
So let's see, we have the Nexus 7 at $199, the ad-free Kindle Fire at $174, and the rumored Apple mini iPad probably at $199-$249. For just a little bit more money you can buy a lot more tablet.
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Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: Kindle Fire tablets have ads, you won't be able to opt out! said by pnh102:Is the Kindle Fire really still relevant? The Google Nexus 7 is far more functional,
The specs for the 8.9" Kindle Fire HD are as good or better than the Nexus 7" and the amount of cloud based media is much better on Amazon than on Google. So I don't see how the Nexus 7 is more functional.
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | How Kansas City taxpayers support Google Fiber Reality begins surface even before google is finished.
If I was the cable company or the telco, I think I might have good cause to sue to recover the ROW costs and other fees to serve KC. | |
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|  elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: How Kansas City taxpayers support Google Fiber who cares? really? its not like AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, and TimeWarner dont get tax breaks and subsidies too
KC knows what having cheap fast internet will do for them
and knows in the long run they will make more money from this then what google would of payed in the first place | |
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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| Re: How Kansas City taxpayers support Google Fiber I'm more thinking from the taxpayer side, that projects I want MY taxes and fees going towards may now go unfunded because of the" special deal" google got for providing very fast internet to everyone (which may now not be everyone, just those that can afford at least $300 dollars or a normal rate) and unless it really performs some economic miracle may need to be paid back for years to come.
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: How Kansas City taxpayers support Google Fiber got news for you all the other ISPs get them too | |
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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| Re: How Kansas City taxpayers support Google Fiber really?
It would be EXTREMELY unlikely ANY other private business got a wavier for ROW fees, or free rack space, or free electric service, or free inspectors for a build, or minimal to nothing as far as public hearings or impact hears into ANY city, before a major buildout.
No in this case Google made a general offer and KC along with HUNDREDS of other localities EXPENDED millions of dollars to BEG google to take yet more freebies to MAYBE build there.
KC apparently "WON".
As far as I know (after 35 years of professional "poking around") NO CITY has ever paid for an ISP to build out, their area, some have forgiven some incentives from the ISP to have some control over the buildout schedule, NO states have EVER paid any ISP for a chance they might to build out.
In fact most cities and states have profited greatly from ROW, construction and maintaince fees from ISP's and telco's and cable companies, and gas and water utilities, even when those companies were REQUIRED to build out under federal law. | |
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Broadway, NC | All new Kindle Fire tablets have ads, and you won't be... ...able to opt out.
Guess the old Fire will be my last Fire...
Total deal breaker.
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|  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by coldmoon:...able to opt out.
Guess the old Fire will be my last Fire...
Total deal breaker.
So I assume you stopped watching TV for the same reason. I guess you stopped reading magazines and newspapers too. | |
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In fact... my wife and I never watch movies on commercial TV. We're watching fewer series on commercial TV than ever. The number of magazine subs is down to... maybe... huh... I think it's down to one. Maybe two. Newspaper we finally stopped because it's mostly adverts, with very little content and even less news.
I wouldn't buy an advert-subsidized tablet. Most 'droid apps: I either buy the "pro/elite" versions or eventually delete them if they have adverts.
I'm tired of being incessantly, relentlessly marketed-to.
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: All new Kindle Fire tablets have ads, and you won't be... said by jseymour:said by BF69:So I assume you stopped watching TV for the same reason. I guess you stopped reading magazines and newspapers too.
In fact... my wife and I never watch movies on commercial TV. We're watching fewer series on commercial TV than ever. The number of magazine subs is down to... maybe... huh... I think it's down to one. Maybe two. Newspaper we finally stopped because it's mostly adverts, with very little content and even less news. I wouldn't buy an advert-subsidized tablet. Most 'droid apps: I either buy the "pro/elite" versions or eventually delete them if they have adverts. I'm tired of being incessantly, relentlessly marketed-to. Jim In other words just give you shit for free. | |
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| | | | | | Re: All new Kindle Fire tablets have ads, and you won't be... said by BF69:In other words just give you shit for free.
Did I write that? Nope. Didn't write that. What I wrote was that I mostly either pay for it or do without.
Are you a marketer or something? Only reason I can imagine you feel threatened by the fact my wife and I aren't addicted to free stuff at the expense of incessant attempts to brainwash us into buying things we neither want nor need.
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join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT Reviews:
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| Re: All new Kindle Fire tablets have ads, and you won't be... said by Linklist:An ad only on the lock screen is a ho hum, who cares, sort of annoyance. These ads won't disrupt anyone's use of the device. Ads on the lock screen are only the first step. Advertising spreads like a cancer whenever it's given the chance.
You only have to look at the current state of TV to see where this will end up. First they started putting logos on the screen, "To help the viewers find the channel" of course. Then they started talking over the end credit music. Then they started shrinking the end credits so that they could advertise other shows, and running the credits at turbo speed so that they could get to the next show faster. Then popup ads started to appear on the bottom of the image for a few seconds after each commercial break. Now they popup all the time while you're trying to watch the damn show. And if there isn't an ad on the screen, they have a line telling you waht show you're watching and whether it's new (apparently for the people who are too stupid to know what they're watching). The logo is often animated at least part of the time and on some channels contains a countdown timer to the next show (because apparently the next show is more important than the one you're currently watching). Not to mention that the amount of normal advertising has more than doubled in the past 30 years.
If users don't make a fuss about this today, a decade from now, you'll have popup ads appear at the bottom of the screen every time you turn a page. After all, if you're on a new page, you're not reading the bottom part right away, so how could it possibly disturb anyone to place an ad there for a few seconds? And who could possible object if it also plays a catchy little jingle?
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH Reviews:
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| VOIP OTT I really hope that VoLTE improves the quality. Cell phone quality is just so bad. I've realized how much worse it is when I use the phones at the office that are running on a Cisco VOIP system. Since that system has practically unlimited bandwidth, the call quality is incredible. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: VOIP OTT Well cell phone calls are maybe 24 kbps at most and usually less than half that. VOIP can be over 100 kbps. Once VoLTE comes about they can up the bitrate. Of course by the time they do that minutes and messaging would end and everything would be just data. At 100 kbps about 45 minutes a day would equal 1 GB a month. | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Re: VOIP OTT Voice won't count toward data caps. I think many cell phone calls are a lot less than 24 kbps. The phones at work could easily be 100kbps, as they are running on a dedicated ethernet network. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: VOIP OTT said by BiggA:Voice won't count toward data caps. I think many cell phone calls are a lot less than 24 kbps. The phones at work could easily be 100kbps, as they are running on a dedicated ethernet network.
Listen once VoLTE takes off, and that's a few years away, everything is just going to be data. They won't separate everything to minutes, text and data since it is all data anyways. Trust me by 2020 you won't be picking a cell phone package with so many minutes or so many texts, or even "unlimited" text and minutes. You'll simply pick a data package. Why do you think at&t and Verizon are moving to these share plans? Verizon is being more aggressive about by not giving new customers an option to choose old pricing. They eventually have everyone on them. Anyways at 24 kbps 6000 minutes would be 1 GB. Who calls 6000 minutes anymore? Now up that to 96 kbps then 1500 minutes would be 1 GB. | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH Reviews:
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| Re: VOIP OTT No, minute plans or eventually unlimited minute plans will be around. It seems like a massive value to have UNLIMITED phone service for $X/mo, even when it's not, since it uses very little data, so they will continue to charge a lot for it, and pretent it's an even bigger "value". | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: VOIP OTT said by BiggA:No, minute plans or eventually unlimited minute plans will be around. It seems like a massive value to have UNLIMITED phone service for $X/mo, even when it's not, since it uses very little data, so they will continue to charge a lot for it, and pretent it's an even bigger "value".
Ok I'm done arguing with you. Save this post and if at&t and Verizon are still offering "minutes" and "texts" on Jan 1st 2019 I'll stop posting here. | |
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But I'm going for ASUS PadFone 2. | |
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join:2008-11-22
Canada Reviews:
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| iPhone tops JD Power satisfaction survey I don't see how anyone can be surprised by this. It's most likely going to make the top of all the lists.
Apple knows how to make products work for consumers. I'd be surprised to see this changed.
Looking forward to their announcement this week. Let's push the world forward! | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: iPhone tops JD Power satisfaction survey I agree to a point. However, Mac OSX and Apple TV aren't their best work. | |
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Kindle Fire tablets have ads, you won't be able to opt out!
Will the ad downloads, count against the basic 250 Mb basic data allocation? If the ad downloads count against the customers 250 Mb allocation then they are being defrauded because they do not actually have a 250 Mb allocation.
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