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by Revcb 07:01AM Friday Nov 23 2012

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IllIlIlllIll
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Seriously ?

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Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl, Confiscate Winnie The Pooh Laptop
Wilsdom

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Re: Seriously ?

Have to get to them when they are young

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Why not? Since the parent seems unwilling/unable to convince or control her, and wasn't able/willing to pay the fine, this seems appropriete.
However, a strong warning might have been better PR wise, but once the police were involved some sort of "recovery is likely.

Somehow/eventually people will get the idea that piracy is socially and legally unacceptable even if a few promote it as OK.
unfortunately the easily caught/young will pay the highest price while those promoting it HOPE to fade into the background before they get caught.

IllIlIlllIll
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Re: Seriously ?

said by tshirt:

Why not? Since the parent seems unwilling/unable to convince or control her, and wasn't able/willing to pay the fine, this seems appropriete.
However, a strong warning might have been better PR wise, but once the police were involved some sort of "recovery is likely.

Somehow/eventually people will get the idea that piracy is socially and legally unacceptable even if a few promote it as OK.
unfortunately the easily caught/young will pay the highest price while those promoting it HOPE to fade into the background before they get caught.

the thing is, there are plenty of parents that are completely unaware/oblivious to what their children are doing on the internet.
even supervision isnt enough if the parents dont know what to look for.
my sister who is not computer "savy" asked me to look at her 13 year old daughters computer that had some issues and much to my surprise i found a "bittorrent" application installed and running in the background set to download "pop" songs all unknowingly to her mother.
she does "supervise" her daughters "activities" on the laptop and has set timely curfews at certain times by simply taking away the laptop but this is obviously not good enough when her daughter can simply "sneak" her friends netbook in her room and resume downloading those "pop" songs or attempt to hide the shortcuts on the laptop from her mother who isnt computer "savy" enough to know that just the shortcuts have been deleted, not the application itself.
so, educating parents and their children absolutely goes a long way in preventing any instances of this nature.
i strongly agree a warning with education on the first "violation" should be done, not an outright "pay this amount or else" extortion fee.
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Re: Seriously ?

said by IllIlIlllIll:

...the thing is, there are plenty of parents that are completely unaware/oblivious to what their children are doing on the internet.

Well there's your problem.

I find it hard to believe that Finland,which by all accounts is a pretty liberal place and highly protective of individual liberties, would not have a multi-warning system in place, and that had they dealt with it when it was a warning letter or even at the demand letter stage, they never would have reached the police raid stage.
I also think the police would not have allowed a forced confisation of the laptop, unless it was legally permitted.

At some point the responsible adult needs to sit down with the kid and talk about the facts of life including the social and legal conquences of the kids actions.
One of the reason I so object to a number of posters here insisting "It's OK to Download" and "You'll never get caught if you..." is that kids believe them, emulate them, and eventually apply the same selective logical to other laws, safety rules, and social mores, which occasionally/all to frequently comes to a bad ending.
If adults want to fuck themselves up thats OK, when they apply risk to others it is unacceptable.

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Re: Seriously ?

You didn't read that the files they downloaded were really garbage "Bait" files and the parent went out and bought the CD.

..so, in reality, nothing was stolen or pirated.

tshirt
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Re: Seriously ?

So she broke into the bank, but mistakenly took scrap paper rather than money.
the educational moment is about intent and the consquences of even trying not being worth the reward you might have gotten.
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said by tshirt:

Why not?

ROFL
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It is news articles like this, that just fuel my desire to say to the industry, get screwed.

And don't waste my time whining about the poor bloody artist that doesn't mean shit to the RIAA.

You can't always know what you kid is doing on or off a computer.

If you be a worried parent, don't have internet.

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Re: Seriously ?

It just shows that BOTH sides are wrong.

The 9 year old's parents didn't know that it was going on because they didn't make it their business to know what their 9 year old was doing online.
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Garbage bait files ...... because the actual real pirates out there, actually can recognize garbage files to begin with.

All you get with bait files are people that hardly fit the description of a real threat.

IllIlIlllIll
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Simba7
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China Rolls Its Own Ethernet-over-Coax Standard

"are designed to produce net throughput speeds of 175 Mbit/s"

Not that impressive since we can push much more than that through Coax now.

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Re: China Rolls Its Own Ethernet-over-Coax Standard

And given chinese problems with wifi crippling the new subway system »www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/21···nockout/ I don't think their custom "standards" are totally thought through.
Perhaps paying the license fee for a carefully designed international standard is worth it after all.