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by Revcb 09:38AM Friday Mar 14 2014

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Simon707

@bell.ca

In other news

I thought that might be of interest to you, even if its not bad news:

»www.reddit.com/r/networking/comm···ed_from/
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA

Moving the goalposts again?

BGR's claim that 1/3 of households have "no choice for broadband" is based on a false premise (surprised?) - by redefining "broadband" from 4/1 to 10/1.5.

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK

Re: Moving the goalposts again?

Sounds fine to me. 4/1 in this age is crap.
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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Re: Moving the goalposts again?

It is patently unfair to criticize corporate America for failing to achieve broadband penetration, which requires heavy capital investments over the course of a decade, if you're going to redefine the terms every two years.

In the case of this article, not only did they cook the figures, but they've moved on from availability to "choice".

For the record, we have 2/1, and it isn't "crap".

KrK
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Tulsa, OK

Re: Moving the goalposts again?

If corporate America has failed to deliver 4/1 speeds in the *16 years* since xDSL first became common then I think plenty of criticism is warranted, especially if it is compared internationally. In fact it deserves far more then just some criticism.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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Re: Moving the goalposts again?

said by KrK:

If corporate America has failed to deliver 4/1 speeds in the *16 years* since xDSL first became common then I think plenty of criticism is warranted, especially if it is compared internationally. In fact it deserves far more then just some criticism.

But they didn't so fail. ADSL2+ and VDSL2 have only been deployable for about 8 years, not 16, and with any such capital-intensive, forklift upgrades, there has to be adequate demand - customers willing to pay the market rate for the service.

Further, you can't set an artificial bar where the technology does not apply. 4M/1M on ADSL2+ only works out to about 10K cable-feet, in the real world - so again, you're expecting yet another forklift upgrade, where there is no demand.

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK

Re: Moving the goalposts again?

So, basically, BGR was right then. At least 1/3rd of American households can't get internet speeds exceeding 4/1. Pretty sad, really.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini