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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

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Apple Battery Replacement

$29 should be the regular price to replace a battery. Not $79. At that price, I would replace at 18 month intervals instead of waiting for failure. I will have a 15 month old 6S Plus battery in December 2018 (was a new Apple Refurbished iPhone in October). I'd pay $29 in December 2018 to get a jump on any future problems.

Vchat20
Landing is the REAL challenge
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join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH

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Re: Apple Battery Replacement

Additionally I am disappointed they didn't offer even some very basic 'battery health' display or warnings if they were already monitoring it for power management purposes. Would have saved a lot of headache.

former qwest
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join:2014-01-04
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Re: Apple Battery Replacement

according to apple.com, "it's coming". "Early in 2018, we will issue an iOS software update with new features that give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone’s battery, so they can see for themselves if its condition is affecting performance."

Vchat20
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Columbus, OH

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Re: Apple Battery Replacement

I know. I read that. My point was when they started this power management fiasco it is assumed they were doing so based on monitored battery health then. They should have, at the very least, added a basic battery health display or warning when they added the power management tweaks in.
sims
join:2013-04-06

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I think it's ignoring the issue.
At least as far back as ios 5 the device would slow after it hit 10% or less battery.

IIUC the complaint now is the device is slowed all the time if the battery is detected to have wear even if it is fully charged.

Thats BS if the battery can no longer run the device below 30% battery the problem is the meter is displaying the wrong percentage it needs to adjust with wear like it used to so it may shut off spontaneously once it gets down to 1-2% but shutting off at 30% is just stupid.

They used to do this your device didn't get slower the battery just didn't last as long.

Vchat20
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Re: Apple Battery Replacement

Doesn't quite work like that. As Lithium based batteries age, internal resistance goes up. What happens then is under heavy loads, more amperage is attempted to be pulled out of the battery and due to the increased resistance the voltage of the battery tanks, sometimes below a safe threshold to keep the device powered. And heavy loads are usually infrequent so its not so much an issue of there is legitimately still available charge to use down under ~30%.

Battery 'gauges' are also not magic. At best they simply measure voltage with a known voltage curve to give you a more pretty percentage range. Some will also take aging into account but that still leaves out specifics to YOUR own battery.

To that point I think having the OPTION of proactive battery management to maximize battery life over the age of a battery and prevent possible power brownouts is a good one. Apple just did the normal Apple thing and hid it all and didn't even offer a basic display to people.
sims
join:2013-04-06

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Re: Apple Battery Replacement

Options are good. Gauges are not magic but they used to be automatic and self adjusting.

If the device knows that it suddenly shuts off when at the 30% battery level it needs to adjust the gauge appropriately to let the user know that the device is at 1% and may shut off at any time.

If the battery can't run the device at full tilt at 30% it's not 30% it's freakin dead let the user know and handle it the way they so choose.

Yep normal for apple but i'd have expected them to just shorten the runtime significantly instead of giving seriously degraded performance all the time.
sims

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Several

Could Threats to Net Neutrality Spark Interest in Local Broadband?
No people are already interested in local broadband but they still won't be able to get it.
US ISP Tells Users That Repeat Piracy Notices May Lead To "Thermostat Issues"
Intercepting traffic to force you to an anti piracy page tends to do that.
Report: DirecTV Now Customers Suffer Outages, Buffering
Probably weren't expecting all the new customers over the holiday season.
T-Mobile CEO: More competition in in 2018
Not if you get bought out. Now if you do i'd like to see a wireless home phone service and reasonable plans for tablets and hotspots. A home internet plan would be awesome too.
Now That The FCC Is Doing Away With Title II For Broadband, Will Verizon Give Back The Taxpayer Subsidies It Got Under Title II?
Hahahaha No.
AT&T Faces Four Holdout States As FirstNet Deadline Looms
Neat.
Satellite industry 2.0 tees up bevy of satellites in name of broadband for all
Would be wonderful if they did I still think there is a good chance they will all go bankrupt before then but I'd use it if the price was reasonable say under $170/mo at least 200Mbps and 10TB or unmetered (hey 2021 is several years away I shouldn't be asking for something by today's standards).
Cable infiltration into U.S. wireless market will ramp up
Whoop de do I don't see how them roaming on wifi networks is going to help them.
apple apologizes for inadequately communicating battery management practices that slowed down iPhones with older batteries, will offer $29 battery replacements
It's like sorry we broke your lamp but we will fix it temporarily for $29 then break it again.
Cheaper battery replacements are nice but thats not the point.
YouTube has been deactivated on the Fire TV, but Amazon already has a fix
Weren't they supposed to be on better terms now?
WhatNow
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join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC

WhatNow

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Re: Several

ATT got all 50 plus some territories on the last day. Paying for their own networks did not look good for the bank accounts of the the last minute states.
sims
join:2013-04-06

sims

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Re: Several

Why did they even consider it?
They can't do better than a unified nationwide network.

RR Conductor
Ridin' the rails
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA

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Ooooooh, busted!

Apple got caught, it's about time.
ncted
join:2010-10-25
Durham, NC

ncted

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Re: Ooooooh, busted!

Yes! It has been almost a year since they started making iPhones with bad batteries more reliable. As usual, the Apple haters are making this out to be some maniacal plan to boost sales, while the fanboys think Apple did no wrong.

Apple absolutely should have announced what they were doing, but their intent was to improve customer experience. Apple products have become too buggy, and their attempts to fix problems are ham-fisted. I seriously doubt I will ever buy another Apple device again any time soon.