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Claria privacy exec joins integrity committee
(old news - 10:11AM Thursday Feb 24 2005)
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Salon and CNET are reporting that D. Reed Freeman, the "chief privacy officer" of Claria Corporation (makers of the much loathed Gator application) has been appointed to the Dept. of Homeland Security's "Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee". So we've got this straight: an exec for the same company that sued websites for calling its product spyware, buries ridiculous demands in its EULA, has a history of using stealth installation techniques to mislead customers, and has been sued by a half-dozen web publishers for being a "parasite", is now advising Uncle Sam on privacy and integrity?

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GlenQuagmire
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WOW!

Un f#$%ing believable

LetsRok

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Re: WOW!

Talk about the fox watching the hen house!!:o

GlenQuagmire
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Re: WOW!

Its more like putting Michael Jackson in charge of taking down child p0rn sites.

LinuxJunkie

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Re: WOW!

LOL
Thaler
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Actually, that would make MORE sense. At least Michael would have a vested interest in finding the sites.

Maybe he might need to download more "evidence" than necessary to prosecute, but he'd at least marginally get the work done.
p00ter_nerd
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Re: WOW!

How about Michael Moore heading Bush's re-election campaign! (yea, old, but still same concept)
Thaler
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Re: WOW!

Again, that also would be more effective than this appointment.

Moore would have Bush's name slapped up everywhere, bringing publicity galore to his campain. Granted, it wouldn't be the exact KIND of publicity wanted, but hey, you would at least get name recognition - that's 50% of the job!

I can't see anything but 100% crap coming from this boob, IMHO.

sivran
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Not to turn this to politics but...

I think Michael Moore turned out busloads of voters...

...to the Republican party. Without Fahrenheit 9/11 I think we might've seen a John Kerry victory, or at the very least, a repeat of 2000. Michael Moore alienated tons of moderates.
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Thaler
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Re: WOW!

Just to prove a point: there is no such thing as bad publicity.

techjoe
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said by GlenQuagmire See Profile:

Un f#$%ing believable
No, unfortunatly, it's not. Perhaps someone's been slipping the paranoia into my drinks, but as of late my opinion of our current government officials, whom oversee this kind of crap every damned day, has sunk as low as it can go. "love it or leave it" I know, and trust me I love it, but boy these idiots in office are getting out of control..

/anarchy anyone?

oliphant
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Anyone surprised? I'm not.

It's been like that for as long as I can remember no matter who was 'in charge'. How else do you think the gov't gets so efficient at screwing over the taxpayers, stealing their money and wasting it? There is no entity more corrupt than gov't.
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SRFireside

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Re: Anyone surprised? I'm not.

Have to admit putting this guy in makes about as much sense as the President's last list of appointees to Homeland Security. I said before that the staff sounds was so mismatched for the job it sounded like the whole situation was ripe for a sitcom. Now it looks like we're into sweeps week for season 2.
jimbo2150

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And you wonder...

And you wonder why our security measures are so bad, sheesh!


JAAulde
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What on earth...

That is scary indeed. Between legislations like PATRIOT and the DMCA and people like this getting positions of that sort, Big Brother is getting very scary.

BoredofTrade

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Wheaton, IL

That's Just Plain Scary

More and more of this stuff reminds me of Orwell's 1984. Here's a fun quote to boot.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
davisx

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Re: That's Just Plain Scary

Sounds typically american.... another corporate interest in a position of power.
donaldk
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Re: That's Just Plain Scary

Happy I live in Canada!

lyls

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yes it seems that having all this trade and big corporations might not be that good after all :

rlt2562
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2012

I've heard for the past few years that the end of the world 'as we know it' will take place in 2012.

Looks like it's early.


kapil
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Re: 2012

Why 2012?

Pz_

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Re: 2012

I dunno, it seems just as good as any other random number people could make up and attach the end of humanity to.

2012...yeeeeah, see I've got plans that year. Hows 2015 for you?

Anti_Cyrix
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Re: 2012

Funny how in '99, I've heard that the end of the world will be in 2003.

rlt2562
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I don't really know. It could be popular opinion of psychics/Nostradamus prophecy decrypting/tea leaf readers.

IT Guy
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Re: 2012

Actually, it's a popular opinion of Christian and Jewish scholars as well. (the only reason I know this is because of some show regarding dooms day/the Apocalypse/rapture, whatever you want to call it, that aired on the History or Discovery Channel fairly recently).

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Re: 2012

That sounds pretty cool, you remember what it was called? I'll punch it in my Tivo and see if they are still playing it.

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Re: 2012

I can't remember for the life of me, but I've seen it several times already and I believe it was on the History channel and not Discovery.

SRFireside

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I think that has to do with the Mayan calender saying the end of the 5th world and the beginning of the 6th world happens on that year. It might also have to do with a celestial alignment that's supposed to happen then too. If I remember correctly all of the planets in our solar system (maybe with the exception of Pluto) will all aligned on a single path that year.

End of the world? Doubt it. Pigs start flying and cats start speaking the Queen's English? Now THAT'S something I wanna see!

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Re: 2012

said by SRFireside See Profile:

End of the world? Doubt it. Pigs start flying and cats start speaking the Queen's English? Now THAT'S something I wanna see!
I'm not too sure I want to hear what the Cats will have to say

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Re: 2012

"Empty my litter box you bloody wanker!"
"Yeah, I'll come over there when you give me a decent reason that doesn't involve that sodding fuzzy toy."
"I lick my arse because I can and I know it freaks you out."
"That catnip last night was top notch!"
"I COULD rip your throat out while you're sleeping for that bath, but instead I'll pee in your shoe.
"Those footprints on the counter? Um, I have no idea how they got there but I agree they would seem to implicate me."

Not exactly queen's [proper] english, but I'm guessing my cat wouldn't be all that charitable.
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Now what I would like to see is that Y2K end of the world that we never got to see. Well, except on Family Guy.

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said by kapil See Profile:

Why 2012?
It's the year the Mayan calendar ends.

»www.greatdreams.com/end-world.htm

»www.crystalinks.com/may.html

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The Mayans invented the calendars we use today. The present calendars ends in the year 2012.

By tracking the movements of the Moon, Venus, and other heavenly bodies, the Mayans realized that there were cycles in the Cosmos. From this came their reckoning of time, and a calendar that accurately measures the solar year to within minutes.

The "Calendar Round" is like two gears that inter-mesh, one smaller than the other. One of the 'gears' is called the tzolkin, or Sacred Round. The other is the haab, or Calendar Round.

scary1

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Re: 2012

I believe the Bible Code also states that the world will end in 2012. A meteor or comet will strike the earth. I think it even gives the exact date. Sometime in May if I am not mistaken.

Anyway, I am not suprised by this appointment. I mean, come on, it is George W running this country, did you actualy expect him to do something right after all this time?

Chiyo
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Does the goverment have old ass people working for them?? Seriously 1st the fall with the FBI computer systems now this and it seems like the govrement has to top itself on the retarted things they do with technolgy. Like each time they've gotta make it worse and worse. Are they in compitiion with other countries to seee who can look the dumbest?

ArchAngel21x
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And this has to do with Gator and spyware how?

JPuppy
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He's the Privacy Master

Well, Freeman should be very knowledgeable about personal privacy, after all, he's done more than most others to invade it on such a large scale.
ossito16

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I am lost

I hear the tone in this forum that nobody likes how things are done in our govt. but what is the plan to stop this crap. we need a voice in this country to take it away from corp. by all means necessary.

insomniac
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DHS also has a DoubleClick connection

The Salon article also mentions that the Dept. of Homeland Security's chief privacy officer used to work for DoubleClick.

Great.
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ROFL!

It's like putting Osama Bin Laden in charge of National Security. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Re: ROFL!

To bad Bonnie and Clyde aren't still around. We could put them in charge of the federal reserve.
Thaler
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They probably already tried that, but Osama couldn't fit it into his schedule.

Grail Knight
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The End is Near!!

Just like the millions of tax payer dollars lost in their great computer systems upgrade that failed here is another example of the so called "political genius" that runs the US.

We need to send The Donald to address our government leadership and tell them based on their actions in securing our technology sector, "Your fired"!
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Re: The End is Near!!

You got the "your fired" part correct, the Donald is just another bankruptcy thief hiding his personal $ from the corporations he led to chapter 11...

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Re: The End is Near!!

LMAO!

Grail Knight
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Glad I live in Canada

I am sure glad I live in Canada right now, privacy is a major issue here and the House of Commons even passed a bill addressing spamers,etc. Not even the Canadian verson of the RIAA can get your name via your ip address.

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Re: Glad I live in Canada

said by hrobins See Profile:

I am sure glad I live in Canada right now,
we are too, stay there.

How do you catch a thief? Hire a thief.
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SRFireside

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Re: Glad I live in Canada

Normally if you want that thief to do it right they are reformed. Gator is still denying any complicity in being a spyware house.

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Not to worry, much

D. Reed Freeman, the "chief privacy officer" you bet, and a dog can take a crap in a Church, but that doesn't make it a holy object of veneration. Keep in mind this so called Integrity Committee is just a figure head thing. They get paid way too much money to meet several times a year to drink coffee, eat at expensive restaurants, stay in 5 star motels and we the tax payers pick up the tap. They will make recommendations that no one in the OHS will listen to, or care about. I would imagine this is a pay-off for political contributions. Most everyone in the cyber-world knows who this offering to the Canine Lawn Goddess is, and that is where in counts.
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nutcr0cker

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Re: Not to worry, much

Henceforth, all computers not running the gator spyware would be againts us )

but, look at the bright side. He would infect the computers used by terrorist with his spyware and eventually stall them.

Long live prez bush, long rule the corporations/republicans :)

PhoenixDown
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Its a long way till april

Please tell me this is a joke!

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Re: Its a long way till april

said by PhoenixDown See Profile:

Please tell me this is a joke!
No, unfortunately it isn't. These "Citizen committees" are common in Washington D.C. They are one of the many ways people are awarded for their "help".
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I Give Up

I am in disbelief. Or is it denial? WTF??

TheGiant
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Re: I Give Up

Might as well let Iran and North Korea in too.

cdru
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In other news...

"In other news, Dr. Jack Kevorkian has been appointed National Director of Health and Human Services, Kenneth Lay was appointed Director of the Treasury and Bill Gates was appointed CIO of the whole Federal Government." - Techsoldaten over at Slashdot
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Re: In other news...

said by cdru See Profile:

"Bill Gates was appointed CIO of the whole Federal Government." - Techsoldaten over at Slashdot
I hate to say this but whatever you think of Bill Gates he does run the most successful company on the planet. If you was CIO for the Fed' he would probably do a better job the the fools they have in their now.
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Re: In other news...

said by Transmaster See Profile:

I hate to say this but whatever you think of Bill Gates he does run the most successful company on the planet. If you was CIO for the Fed' he would probably do a better job the the fools they have in their now.
Excluding being guilty of monopolistic practices, squashing innovation, buying companies just to close them down because they were a threat, and having some of the most attacked and insecure products, yeah I'd say he had done a great job. I think he'd fit in well with the current structure of the federal government.

The whole point of my original quote is that it's like having a fox guard the hen house. The others mentioned also had successful careers at some point in their lives. Yet they still ended up in trouble doing the things that they did (in some form or another).
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Re: In other news...

What are you trying to prove here?

Everything you descibed can APPLY TO EVERY COMPANY IN THE USA.

Welcome to capitalism. If you don't like it to bad Communism crashed and burned.

ninersfan

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Diversity

He will be one of 20, hopefully not in the leadership. Anyway, it could be much like hiring a hacker to protect your network if he uses his knowledge in the public interest and not the corporate interest, but of course...it's a big if.
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Just Our Goverment at Work... So What Else is New.

"has a history of using stealth installation techniques" It makes one wonder, oh the conspiracy theories.

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...in order to form a more perfect union...

OMG. WTF?

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If you feel strongly then tell your representative

We do have the advantage of living in a country where we can voice our concerns to our leaders.

if you feel strongly about this, then be sure to let your representatives in the House and Senate know about it.

They have oversight on this type of thing.

You can find their contact info at »thomas.loc.gov/

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