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Germany Wants Private Internet Because of NSA Spying
by Karl Bode 09:00AM Friday Oct 25 2013
The latest Snowden leaks courtesy of The Guardian reveal that the NSA monitored the phone converations of 35 world leaders after a government official handed over his address book to the agency. The leaked Snowden memo highlights how the NSA routinely urges staff members of the White House, State and the Pentagon to share their "Rolodexes" so that the agency knows more precisely which foreign leaders to spy on.

The latest news comes on the heels of reveals that the NSA has done everything from spy on Brazilian oil companies to hacking into Mexican Presidents' e-mail accounts, rekindling long-standing international concerns that the United States has too much authority over the Internet. Germany, for example, is pushing for its own national Internet, despite the fact that will never likely work:
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As a diplomatic row rages between the United States and Europe over spying accusations, state-backed Deutsche Telekom wants German communications companies to cooperate to shield local internet traffic from foreign intelligence services...As the row festers, telecom and Internet experts said the rhetoric exceeded the practical changes that could be expected from Deutsche Telekom's project. More than 90 percent of Germany's internet traffic already stays within its borders, said Klaus Landefeld, a board member of the non-profit organization that runs the DE-CIX Internet exchange point in Frankfurt.
Similar concepts were pushed forth by Brazil recently as well, even though it seems obvious that the NSA's reach could easily extend into private, national networks. U.S. and ICANN dominance of Internet governance is a sore subject for many countries, and while this fracturing of the Internet may never come to pass due to impracticality, the NSA's snooping may renew long-standing pushes for the UN to have a greater role in Internet governance.


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Re: And Mr. Snowden continues to do damage to National Security....

One of our founders addressed your cowardice:

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" - Benjamin Franklin

We were promised freedom and liberty, not safety! Living in a free and open society has risks. We were never promised a nanny state, where daddy would protect us from all harm.

Grow up, and grow a spine. You are far more likely to be killed by some drunken driver than by some boogie man terrorist. Flushing our constitution down the toilet is not going to make you safer, nor will it allay your fears. We live in the "home of the brave", not the home of the scaredy cats! Or have you forgotten that?

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Rosa Parks broke "the law" too. She is still a hero like Snowden is.

So did George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, ........ all broke laws which needed to be broken for the freedom and liberty of others. When governments go rogue, and begin subverting the very principles they were founded on, breaking their "laws" becomes the only way to reign them in.

Snowden is an American Hero, not so much for leaking information, but for highlighting the depths to which our government has fallen in terms of serving and defending our constitution.

The U.S. government has subverted our constitution. They have tortured, summarily executed, spied on it's own citizens without warrant, imprisoned people without charge, denied first and fourth amendment rights, and subverted habeas corpus. This, in other venues, would be considered criminal activity. It's a good thing that their crimes are being brought to light. It's the first step in rectifying their errors.

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Good. Snowden is a hero.

The NSA lied to Congress to cover up their illegal program that is costing taxpayers a fortune but can't seem to catch two Chechen terrorists even after the Russians point them out to us a few times resulting in dozens of people being maimed and a few killed. They couldn't stop the Times Square bomber or Nadan Hassan either. A lot of good the NSA's illegal activities are doing.

The wholesale collection of data without probable cause is unconstitutional on its face and the director should be sacked and then prosecuted for perjury. Even Clinton was impeached and lost his law license for the same crime yet now there is zero accountability to the American people for anything any more.

Queue the statist totalitarians to defend the shredding of the Constitution!
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Laughable

It is a bit of a joke for foreign countries to cry foul over NSA spying. Every one of these countries runs spy operations in the United States.

Everyone spies on everyone and everyone knows that everyone spies on everyone.
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Re: And Mr. Snowden continues to do damage to National Security....

I'm sure he's crying because Crookshanks thinks he's a traitor. He's a patriot and a hero, people who believe otherwise are on the losing team of the authoritarian scumbags.

I hope someone is making it well worth YOUR time ($$) to post things like this day in and day out, because history will show that defending this garbage will be the equivalent of those who were "just doing their job" back in the late 1930's-early 1940's.

I think you meant Sieg Heil, right?