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(old news - 12:54PM Monday Oct 30 2006)
tags: legal · wireless · Oddities
The Consumerist points out that the fine print in Cingular's contract reminds you that your brand new HSDPA broadband smartphone will not be replaced if perchance nuclear armageddon or war breaks out. Asurion, the company that insures most wireless providers, notes that they won't pay for loss or damage resulting from any kind of nuclear hazard, though they will apparently pay if your cellphone perishes in a resulting fire.

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Chiyo
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What the hell?

Do these people when they write the rules do they think of everything that can possibly happen? Also if there is a nuke attack I don't think there will be cell phone towers around or any kind of broadband to connect to.

I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
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Re: What the hell?

said by Chiyo See Profile :

Do these people when they write the rules do they think of everything that can possibly happen? Also if there is a nuke attack I don't think there will be cell phone towers around or any kind of broadband to connect to.

I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
They have to think of everything when dealing with a litigious society such as ours.
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Re: What the hell?

Amen.
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Ditto. In a world where a thief can break into someone's house, hurt himself in the process, sue the homeowner, and WIN, you never know what kind of lawsuits people will come up with next. Part of the blame lies with stupid juries, but the juries are us.

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Re: What the hell?

said by quatrix See Profile :

Ditto. In a world where a thief can break into someone's house, hurt himself in the process, sue the homeowner, and WIN, you never know what kind of lawsuits people will come up with next. Part of the blame lies with stupid juries, but the juries are us.
you just admitted your stupid...
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Re: What the hell?

said by uid1307457 See Profile :

said by quatrix See Profile :

Ditto. In a world where a thief can break into someone's house, hurt himself in the process, sue the homeowner, and WIN, you never know what kind of lawsuits people will come up with next. Part of the blame lies with stupid juries, but the juries are us.
you just admitted your stupid...
That was a 3 year old moment there now wasn't it?


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Re: What the hell?

said by insomx See Profile :

said by uid1307457 See Profile :

That was a 3 year old moment there now wasn't it?


Nah! you were just paraphrasing Pogo, "we have met the enemy and he is us"
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said by manfmmd See Profile :

said by Chiyo See Profile :

Do these people when they write the rules do they think of everything that can possibly happen? Also if there is a nuke attack I don't think there will be cell phone towers around or any kind of broadband to connect to.

I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
They have to think of everything when dealing with a litigious society such as ours.
Well if there was a nuclear war exactly which courts would be in existance to sue those companies? Might as well add in alien invasion while they are at it.

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Re: What the hell?

said by BF69 See Profile :

said by manfmmd See Profile :

said by Chiyo See Profile :

Do these people when they write the rules do they think of everything that can possibly happen? Also if there is a nuke attack I don't think there will be cell phone towers around or any kind of broadband to connect to.

I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
They have to think of everything when dealing with a litigious society such as ours.
Well if there was a nuclear war exactly which courts would be in existance to sue those companies? Might as well add in alien invasion while they are at it.
Every country has government continuity plan and courts and law enforcement is part of it. It wouldn't be the first thing to settle but eventually it would come up.

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said by Chiyo See Profile :

Do these people when they write the rules do they think of everything that can possibly happen? Also if there is a nuke attack I don't think there will be cell phone towers around or any kind of broadband to connect to.

I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
Insurance companies have to try to cover up every loophole as much as humanly possible. Believe it or not,there will still always be people who would try to claim a new phone after a nuclear attack.
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said by Chiyo See Profile :

I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
At that point I'd be in the market for a new phone powered by my own personal radiation field. And the good news is I wouldn't even need a back-lit key pad -- I'd just glow in the dark while dialing...
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A phone nuke? wow, what next...backing up someone's toilet?

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I think my phone breaking in a nuke attack is the last thing I'd care about if I survived the attack that is.
If a nuke blew up California, Californians would die. Oregonians would suffer radiation poisoning, and die an early death. Cell phones in Oregon and Washington will be destroyed by the EMP. Washington residents, while mourning the deaths of their Californian family members, will want their cell phones and computers replaced.

No, i did not do the math. I did not measure state distances. I don't know how far a nuke blast reaches. Nobody specified the size of the nuke. Yes, I am aware that a nuke blast probably would not destroy all of California. It is an example, stupid.

The point is no matter how many people die, the survivors will live. They will be "happy enough" the first few days, but when the euphoria wears off, they will want their cell phones.

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Slow news day

First no Morning Broadband Bytes, now this? Must be a slow news day.

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Re: Slow news day

said by Mizzat See Profile :

First no Morning Broadband Bytes, now this? Must be a slow news day.
As Karl has pointed out before, if you don't like the news, feel free to submit your own!

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Re: Slow news day

said by Cheese See Profile :

said by Mizzat See Profile :

First no Morning Broadband Bytes, now this? Must be a slow news day.
As Karl has pointed out before, if you don't like the news, feel free to submit your own!
Good luck getting it to be accepted. It seems only a few select people are "allowed" to post news.

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Re: Slow news day

said by insomx See Profile :

said by Cheese See Profile :

said by Mizzat See Profile :

First no Morning Broadband Bytes, now this? Must be a slow news day.
As Karl has pointed out before, if you don't like the news, feel free to submit your own!
Good luck getting it to be accepted. It seems only a few select people are "allowed" to post news.
So true, I have had a few accepted before though! Feels good!

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Re: Slow news day

yea ive had a few accepted of mine to but even when the post is very much news worthy It isnt even accepted.. most of the time

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said by h4x0r3d See Profile :

yea ive had a few accepted of mine to but even when the post is very much news worthy It isnt even accepted.. most of the time
I have had that happen, but what's news worthy to us may not be to Karl.

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Re: Slow news day

yea we could get on another topic with that.. such as george bush.. but ill leave that for some other time

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yea we could get on another topic with that.. such as george bush.. but ill leave that for some other time
True

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Well i think if we get nuked, we'll have bigger problems than getting another cell phone
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All of mine have been accepted. But as always, it gets changed around and the facts are messed up.
Then, the readers that know that the news is giving wrong info attack me.
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said by insomx See Profile :

Good luck getting it to be accepted. It seems only a few select people are "allowed" to post news.
Really? I have submitted a few articles and I am by no means a favorite around here.

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Re: Slow news day

I'm just going by what I've heard, I've never personally submitted one
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said by insomx See Profile :

said by Cheese See Profile :

said by Mizzat See Profile :

First no Morning Broadband Bytes, now this? Must be a slow news day.
As Karl has pointed out before, if you don't like the news, feel free to submit your own!
Good luck getting it to be accepted. It seems only a few select people are "allowed" to post news.
Oh garbage!

I am not a popular one around here and my news gets posted most of the time.
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Re: Slow news day

said by fiberguy See Profile :

Oh garbage!

I am not a popular one around here and my news gets posted most of the time.
So let's have a "Who's more unpopular" news post.

Aw, c'mon, laugh a little...... sheesh... tough crowd.

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Somehow i think that would be the least of your worries!

Somehow, I think getting your cell phone replaced after a nuke attack would be the least of your worries. I think you ould be more concerned with how long you have left to live.
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Re: Somehow i think that would be the least of your worries!

Hey when I grow that third ear Ill need my phone!

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Re: Somehow i think that would be the least of your worries!

Well, for some people, the phone would be FUSED to their head, so the problem is solved. "We cannot guarantee the removal of said device....."

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hahhahahahaha

So when your skin is falling off make sure to accidentally drop your phone into a fire.

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Do you really need a cell phone if war is out?

The cell towers would be so jammed what difference would it make if you had one or not. Where sorry our system is BUSY CLICK.

Nuclear breaks out where not going to be around anyway to want a replacement.

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Related to that terrorism insurance stuff

I think this is related to terrorism insurance stuff, as regular insurance plans will not cover any type of damage due to a terrorist attack.
I see the riders and paperwork in my business insurance mailings all the time, so I think that is what this is.
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This is news?

Most insurance coverages state that they will not pay if the loss is due to an act of war, declared or not, or nuclear detonation, accidental or intentional.

Please bring us real news.

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Long live the lonely ham operators.......

they'll be the only reliable communication links after a disaster. although there was a domain registrar in new orleans that somehow kept a blog w/pics updated through the post-katrina flooding.

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Re: Long live the lonely ham operators.......

said by kaila See Profile :

they'll be the only reliable communication links after a disaster. although there was a domain registrar in new orleans that somehow kept a blog w/pics updated through the post-katrina flooding.
I'm prepared, bring it on!

A random lenth of metal wire, thrown up into a tree and a few watts of energy can put out a signal that can be reached around the world.

When the phones are down, the hams are up. 9/11, Katrina, North East Blackout. You name it, and the cell phones are down. Hell, the cellphones get clogged up just on a regular day during rush hour!

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Cellphones are just a tiny problem

Just detonate one of the right type at the right altitude far above Kansas City and bring down the whole electronics infrastructure from Wall Street to ATM's to the entire electrical grid. Who needs insurance then?

»www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm or

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse

or even better »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime
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Think a little deeper...

Did any of you read the blog and comments? Sure you would have more things to worry about in a straight up nuclear bomb attack, but we most likely won't have that happen at least anytime soon.

But...that doesn't mean we won't have something like a dirty bomb go off or an EMP. Neither of these means that everyone would die, even people able to see either one go off.

Sure its a small item to worry about in such a time, but eventually the need will crop up to replace the phone after such an event. Why should you have to pay a the full price for a new phone? Even with phone insurance you still pay a fee of $50 for a replacement phone. Not that the amount of $5.00 every month hasn't already equaled a new phone. I've had the lockline service for each of the Cingular phones I have gone thru. I've never had to use it, yet. From that amount alone (over 3yrs worth) I should have way more than enough for my particular account to pay for a new phone. Why should my money go towards another person's phone? That is how insurance policies are setup.

You pay so much money a month to insure whatever property it is you got insurance for. This money goes into the insurers bank. It is pooled and is used for the customers who do have to call upon their insurance. Now rather than pool this for each individual in private pools, its all put in the same pool. Gee this sounds flawed. What happens, if say, a hurricane comes along and wipes out half the homes in an area and everyone calls up their insurance company, which happens to be the same as everyone else's? Yeah that's what I thought.

The same goes for cell phones. But then again insurance companies are betting on that you won't need to use them. Which is why Health Insurance love healthy people. All the healthy people pay for the sick people.
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Coming after them!

If and when we get nuked, my zombified butt is going to find those small-typeface-writing bigwigs and eat their flesh!


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mind if i join you? that should be a fun time.

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If and when we get nuked, my zombified butt is going to find those small-typeface-writing bigwigs and eat their flesh!


I though zombies ate brains.

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lolz

lol
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So...most insurance is like that...

My State Farm homeowner's and auto policies say the same thing...acts of war, or radiological attack, etc. My old Mercury Insurance policy was the same too. I'm not at all surprised that phone insurance has the same disclaimer.

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Point is mute

All insurance companies and companies themselves have disclaimers for catostraphic disasters. I think in a nuclear attack, if it isn't strategic, the point would be mute anyway.

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said by viperpa33s See Profile :

the point would be mute anyway.
LMAO. Best pun in a long time
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I see a bright flash coming from the north, it's so br.....

The sound you hear is the customer's (and the customer) phone melting in the blast

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Standard exclusions

In addition to nukes, my homeowner's insurance excludes damage caused by self-propelled missiles or spacecraft.

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Use It And Weep

Cingular service area wide policy is to do unto the customer before they read the fine print. I had Cingular for two years; it was by far the worst service I ever paid for. As near as I can figure I was cheated me out of about $1000 before the contract expired. The very last deal was for $40. I foolishly believed the FUD about the pre-paid service that was supposed to work nationwide. I was a bad joke. When I complained to Cingular the employees laughed. I would never recommend Cingular for any service for any reason.
I've since used T-Mobile and Sprint with far better results in the very same areas where Cingular failed to perform at all - like from my house which was a mile from the nearest tower. The $1200.00 give away phone wasn't worth
a buck because the technology was old when I got it.

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Getting Your Phone Replaced After Nuke Attack

Before the insurance companies found out they could fool you into buying 2 homeowners policies, one policy covered both wind and flood.

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Re: Getting Your Phone Replaced After Nuke Attack

Just a thought, maybe because of the recent nuke tests in north korea, you have some north korean customers whining for new phones lol....
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