 aheintzPremium join:2007-06-24 Plattsville, ON | Finally It's nice to see new people coming to the market that understand competition. Check out thier adds that take aim at the BIG 3 »www.youtube.com/user/WindMobileCAN | |
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1 edit | Re: Finally Wonderful news, albeit a bit of a bittersweet victory.
Sadly, the big 3 did get a very good consolation prize - they got Globalive's entry delayed long enough to screw Globalive out of a decent entry into the market at Christmas.
Now let's see what happens to rates!! | |
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 |  |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Finally In the words of the former president, its 'strategery' | |
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 |  |  |  |  NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium join:2002-03-05 | Re: Finally Eh, they were just "hoping" for a little less "change" in the marketplace, so they could continue collecting a little more "change" from their customers.  | |
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 |  |  |  GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:15 | A delay is just that, a delay. They miss this Christmas, but not the next one. This won't affect Wind's eventual marketshare, it will just mean a few more dollars in the pocket of the big 3. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  CorDawg join:2009-04-15 Belleville, ON | Re: Finally Compensated by who? The government(aka tax payers)? because you can really say that's it was rogers/Bell/Telus who blocked them, It was the CRTC. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium join:2002-03-05 | It doesn't appear that anything illegal was done, so it would be hard to prove that they have been wronged in any way. This wouldn't be as clear, cut, and dry as a wrongful death or vehicle accident when determining damages.
Besides, nobody ever said that life was fair... and it's not the job of government to enforce fairness and good behavior in competitive markets. -- To all liberals: I am NOT one of your parents, so get the heck out of my wallet. It's time for you to grow up and take some personal responsibility for taking care of yourselves, which means not relying on the government to give it all to you. | |
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 | | Rules are rules... Or at least they should be. TELUS, at least, has a right to protest this ruling... It was only a few years ago, that the CRTC slapped TELUS around about the % of Verizon ownership, and forced the stake to be reduced.
The CRTC ruled on this matter, Industry Canada shouldn't over-rule it, without grounds... And "Negative Press" isn't grounds enough.
Not that I love the CRTC - if Industry Canada disbanded them tomorrow, I'd be very happy - all I'm saying is that IC and the CRTC can't choose which rulings to enforce, and which to ignore... It opens the whole process up to debate and doubt.
But then again, maybe that's not such a bad thing, after all?
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 |  sbrookPremium,Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa kudos:4 | Re: Rules are rules... Or at least they should be. LazMan, the difference here is the matter of control, not just ownership. | |
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 |  GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:15 | The law says nothing about ownership. Globalive fully met the requirements of the law. The problem came when the CRTC tried to apply the subjective part of the law, how much *influence* does Orascom have. The CRTC thought it was too much, IC thought it wasn't. Because there was a disagreement, it was bumped up to the government to decide who was right. The government decided that IC was right, and the CRTC was wrong. They couldn't both be right.
So, you're pretty far off-base; IC had already ruled on this (they were the first ones). The CRTC tried to overrule them, and now the government has basically said to the CRTC "You can't overrule them" | |
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 |  |  sbrookPremium,Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa kudos:4 | Re: Rules are rules... Or at least they should be. This is the first intelligent thing related to Telecoms that has come out of IC in years in terms of the CRTC behaviour! | |
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 EUSKill cancerPremium join:2002-09-10 canada | Still no pricing plans What a "happy" looking website they have. Where are the pricing plans that let me see the competition that is to come? | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | Re: Still no pricing plans said by EUS:What a "happy" looking website they have. Where are the pricing plans that let me see the competition that is to come? Nothing on their web site yet on prices that justifies all the excitement. Once they publish rates, then people can decide whether this is a good thing or maybe a really good thing. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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 | | Globalive Now Deemed 'Canadian Enough' To Compete In Canada Telus's share price will take the biggest hit of the three even with the recent run up in Rogers. Shaw which tacked on about 10 percent recently will be the biggest winner. | |
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 LaZ3RPremium join:2003-01-17 | Press Conference at 11am
Globalive chief executive officer Anthony Lacavera has called a press conference for 11 a.m. ET. -- Life is a game of blackjack. You keep playing until you bust. | |
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 |  andybPremium join:2003-05-29 SW Ontario kudos:1 | Re: Press Conference at 11am Hopefully its to announce stores open next week and a price list | |
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 |  |  LaZ3RPremium join:2003-01-17 1 edit | Re: Press Conference at 11am source: »www.itworldcanada.com/news/go-fo···c/139572
To the surprise of some telecom industry analysts, Ottawa has overruled the federal telecommunications regulator by finding that Globalive Wireless Management Corp. meets Canadian ownership and control requirements under law.
In a press conference Friday, Globalive chairman Anthony Lacavera said the carrier will launch service in Toronto and Calgary "as early as next week."
The Cabinet decision paves the way for Globalive's Wind Mobile brand, backed by billionaire Egyptian telecom mogul Naguib Sawris' Orascom Telecom S.A.E., to go up against the nation's big three incumbent wireless carriers. -- Life is a game of blackjack. You keep playing until you bust. | |
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 | | HAHAHA B(H)ell, Ro(bb)gers and Telus lost 3% of there stock prices today. Great news.  | |
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Now they have to overturn the CRTC ruling of Bell's stupid throttling/UBB practices... -- "Whos Vod Kanockers that you speak of?" - Jake Harper | |
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| Loans =! control Orascom has loaned 60% of the company their ownership. This is where they come into "owning so much"
Sorry but if start up a business and am pretty much 100% in debt to loans to my bank. They dont exactly control my business.
Know what this means. Especially when globalive's commercials are going to be shoving all their bullshit back in the face of bell/rogers/telus
Just maybe bell/rogers/telus will suddenly stop doing the stupid crap like 600$ cancellation fees. Entering roaming; NOT using your phone while roaming but simply bringing the phone into roaming; fees. Activation fees; sorry but I have to pay to become your customer? What craziness is this?
What is one of the responses from this?
"There's no question in my mind that Canada cannot support more then three national facilities-based players. It's inconceivable to me."
Wait a second. broadband is terrible because there's soooo much space in canada. So space isnt an issue. There's TONS of people who are calling now to find out pricing and already want to cancel their phones. What exactly cant Canada support?
Oh that's right. It cant support competition. Bell and company are losing their oligopoly position. Their profit margins are going to die horribly if they dont do something. Oh that's right. That means drop prices; drop these activation fees and other stupid crap.
guess what pretty much also means. Those bell employees are goin to be getting laid off. Sucks to be them. | |
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 | | to above bell employee the margin of profits is so hiiiiiii that well i'll say waaaaaaaaaaaaa to you | |
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 | | Bellus The government just paved the way for Telus and Bell to merge. Telus and Bell will argue that well capitalized, foreign entities can now run telecom companies in Canada and compete with them, so they should be able to merge. | |
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whooaaa - won't that be a big change......umm.... not....
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The government just paved the way for Telus and Bell to merge. Telus and Bell will argue that well capitalized, foreign entities can now run telecom companies in Canada and compete with them, so they should be able to merge. | |
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BeginSarcasm Right, that doesn't sound like much change. EndSarcasm | |
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1 edit | Leaked Prices Some plans have been leaked online, not sure if they're legit or not but... They aren't that much better than the big 3's, some are worse.
Actually, their data plans are really bad when compared against Bell/Telus. -- I love fish sticks. I love putting fish sticks in my mouth. | |
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 |  |  Fireblade join:2008-08-27 St Catharines, ON kudos:2 | Re: Leaked Prices Re-read what I wrote. Did I even once mention Rogers? | |
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| Re: Leaked Prices said by Fireblade:Re-read what I wrote. Did I even once mention Rogers? The leaked prices are no where close to what even Bell or Telus has.
for 80$ you can get unlimited text, data, voice and voicemail.
This has never been seen as far as I know in our country. | |
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 |  EveryNamePremium join:2001-12-05 Montreal kudos:1 | Chat: $15 per month Unlimited WIND to WIND calling (Canada wide) Unlimited incoming text 100 province-wide voice minutes 50 text messages
Always Talk: $35 per month Unlimited WIND to WIND calling (Canada wide) Unlimited province-wide calling Unlimited incoming text 50 outgoing text messages
Always Shout: $45 per month Unlimited Canada-wide calling Unlimited incoming /outgoing text messages Voicemail
Data Plans Infinite Mobile: $35 per month (used with any voice plan) Unlimited internet for phones (tethering too)
Infinite Laptop: $45 per month Unlimited internet for USB data sticks
Possibly there will be a web on your phone only type data plan for $10/mn.
BlackBerry data plans Social BlackBerry: $10 per month Unlimited instant messaging, Facebook and MySpace.
Infinite BlackBerry: $35 per month (used with any voice plan) Unlimited internet for BlackBerry
Addons: Voice: 10c Per Minute with the $15 plan SMS: 10c each MMS: 20c each Voicemail: $5
Long Distance: $20 for unlimited North America I don't have a lot of other details on long distance, there is going to be a number of different plans.
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| Re: Leaked Prices The reality though is. I expect on par or slightly more expensive then the big3 on the surface. Except there wont be any bullshit hidden costs. Which makes it intensely cheaper. Assuming you actually use the phone.
I've tracked down the source of this post also.
»www.howardforums.com/showthread.···=1599655
I really dont know if it's credible or not. | |
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 | | Yay! More competition is always good.
Being a former Rogers Wireless, Telus and Bell Mobility customer, I can only hope the service, tech support, and price is better.
Now if we could only get some competition for high-speed internet. | |
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| Re: Yay! said by Tristan:Now if we could only get some competition for high-speed internet. Keep on dreaming. | |
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 | | Pricing EveryName, where did you get those prices from? If they are indeed accurate, I can't wait to switch over . | |
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 | | Big Three Not Good Corporate Citizen due Layoff Practice A lot of companies now are not being good Corporate Citizens, ie being responsible for the good of the community. By laying off people, even though the company is not in dire financial strain, companies are contributing more in more to the great financial woes of the world. It is a domino effect. It is understandable to layoff people when the company is heading towards bankcruptcy. But, more and more companies are taking advantage of the current economic situation by hiding their corrupt and unfair practices under the guise of layoff due to financial reasons. Companies should struggle to keep as many of their present employees in the payroll to boost the economy of the country. By laying off people, more and more people will be unemployed, less and less money will circulate in the country, forcing other companies to layoff more in more people. Left uncontrolled the country and the world will head to deeper and deeper recession and eventually to worldwide depression. Governments should encourage companies to hold on to their employees and be good corporate citizens. Even better by hiring more people. | |
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