Too much... I am not going to pay $17.95 for a service that has horrible latency, high packet loss, and speed that vary form dialup to dsl at best. Over the last two years I think it's gone from $6-7 per flight to $11-12ish to flight. I can expense this on my company card so I am not paying for it but I flat out refuse to pay $18 for about an hour of internet even it it's not my money.
I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company.
Re: Too much... Agreed. I wouldn't spend my money or my employer's money on this. I just don't see the value in it. Normally, when I'm on a plane, I try to take a nap to relieve the stress of the whole experience, so I have no use for it for personal entertainment. As for work, I guess I'm not important enough that I'm sent e-mails that must be addressed that very moment. And really, any company that puts that kind of pressure on someone isn't very well organized, IMHO, since there should always be a backup person to make decisions in case the primary person is unavailable.
Re: Too much... It's not always the company. The company might not care but sometimes certain employees believe they are that important (typically micro managers). They inject themselves into processes and if they don't respond quickly, things can come to a halt. Generally it's inexperienced managers who were good at their previous level but have trouble transitioning to an understanding of their new role and value. Their new value isn't total control of their former tasks. It's organizing, supporting, delegating and leading others who to do those tasks. If they do the latter, being out of touch for a few hours isn't going to halt productivity.
Re: Too much... I used to work for a woman who made sure that everyone in her department was trained in everyone else's job, so, if one person was away, someone else could step in and do what needed to be done. And while she did make managerial decisions, she said that she would always support our decisions as long as we had thought them through and could explain our reasoning. And, although she would check her e-mail and voicemail regularly, she never got obsessed with it. If she was out of town, she'd check in every day or two, but we always knew that, if something really needed her attention, we could call her. We rarely had to, since we knew she wasn't going to second-guess the decisions we made in her absence.
Now that's the kind of person you want to work for. Of course, it helped that we'd go drinking on business trips. Not heavily, mind you, but there was one time when we were in Atlanta and ended up in this upscale bar drinking key lime martinis. When we got back from that trip, she went on a mission to get the recipe, going so far as to call the bar to find out where they ordered their ingredients. Then she bought everything, brought it to work, and we proceeded to lock up our office one Friday afternoon and have a martini drinking party in the back. I make lots more money now than I did then, but those were some fun times!
Re: Too much... We are way OT but at my second post-college job a business trip to NYC ended at a Little Italy restaurant. After dinner and several carafes of the house Chardonnay, the women were ripped and I, young, naive and a newlywed, was filled to the brim with gossip. One of them was my boss and she mentioned an after-hours incident with her significant other when the cleaning crew walked in on them. Then the women started comparing male specifications and my boss made everyone at the table sign a Vegas napkin. Several years later she pulled it out of her desk and we all had a good laugh. That was over 20 years ago.
Sadly, it's been a while since the corporate environment has been that much fun. The PC police have ruined a lot of fun -- which I guess isn't fun for everyone. It also seems that today men are extremely cautious and would never be that loose with female subordinates.
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| They have to raise the price, because quite frankly they are heavily bandwidth constrained. So if more than 10-15 people are on forget about any semblance of reasonable usage.|
Sooner of later they will probably have tiered offerings but they need to balance the link w/ revenue and will need to find out some way to keep streaming off. So maybe $5 to access (phone or tab only) facebook, mail, web -- ie low bandwidth asynchronous apps-- etc. I believe that would hook the regular people.
At $5 you will get the "regular" people, and that will kill the link.
This is like the airphone, nothing more.
GoGo making it even harder to justify in-flight access.... Do they want this to fail? $10hr will probably catch a few impulse or desperation buys, but discourage everyone else. And unless things have improved significantly, the service itself is very weak and unable to support much beyond simple email and static web content.
Perhaps one of the dumbest moves ever Interesting that this came out today. I read one news article that said that one of the airplane wifi companies was about to lower rates, and then GoGo raises theirs. GoGo's approach seems stupid to me.
They want to increase usage and business. It seems like the way to accomplish that is to lower prices and get people hooked on usage; not to triple the cost (depending on length of time in the air).
I've used gogo twice in different flights - it took a good 15 minutes to achieve a solid connection. Now they want to charge me for their inadequacies?
St Thomas, VI
no price change on my flights It was the normal rates for me this past sunday. I also don't know what a "popular" flight even means?
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travelers cannot plan ahead for this service The problem with wifi on planes is that it is not on every plane. I cannot plan to have service on a flight because it is not advertised when I make my flight arrangements. Until it is more widespread, adoption is going to be limited.
Re: travelers cannot plan ahead for this service Just as a minor point of clarification - Row 44 (Southwest) uses Ku band satcom links which aren't nearly as constrained as GoGo, which uses a ground based system similar to cellular. As you mentioned, the latency on Row 44 can be a problem. I wasn't real impressed with the speeds even though Row44 technically should be able to support up to 11Mbps.
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| |said by iansltx:Good to know!
Au contraire; Delta has WiFi on all of its domestic mainline jets and the majority of its 70+ seat regional jets at this point.
Set up to fail As mentioned... the service they provide is _HORRIBLE_. It was not worth what they were charging before... let alone a higher fee. GoGo is setting themselves up to be a house of cards. They will get those first time users who don't know any better but won't have any repeat customers to sustain their business. I suspect once they see their revenue declining that they will take correct actions but by then it will be too late. They will have soured their bread and butter customers.
works for me, i'd pay more too! The only time I've had a problem with the service is when some asshat decides to stream youtube videos. I think the higher price point will remove the abusive plebeians and allow people that actually use the internet for work to get work done.
Re: works for me, i'd pay more too! Well put. I may use that phrase in the future.
| | I have used the $18/flight service before. it's convenient. But I think the $10/hour is a better deal for smart people.
Most don't need internet but a few minutes to check email and maybe do some web browsing at best. The rest of the time they're reading books or magazines or sleeping. The thing is, there just isn't anything to be doing for that time except work, and the plane is one occasion I don't fancy doing work. So I do my best to avoid it and do personal stuff instead; like write some more pages of my book. Since that is synchronized down to my computer, I don't need internet except to sync it back up when I get to the hotel.
So for me, it'll end up saving me $8 since I don't ever use the access the full time anyway.
People who (as noted above) just stream a bunch of YouTube videos or whatnot are the issue, and they will learn a hard lesson.
I would do the monthly but I don't fly nearly enough to justify it.