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Google: 2% of Our User Base is Using IPv6
by Karl Bode 08:29AM Monday Oct 07 2013 Tipped by whfsdude See Profile
According to Google's latest IPv6 deployment metrics, roughly 2% of Google's user base are now accessing Google services using IPv6. Google offers an interesting breakdown of IPv6 adoption by country, noting that Switzerland (8.94%), Romania (7.75%), France (5.08%), Germany (4.28%) and the United States (4.19%) lead the way when it comes to overall IPv6 adoption by residents and businesses. "This is still a relatively small percentage of course, but it is important as a measure of increased usage of IPv6 globally," ISOC said in a statement.

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Mike
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Stop trying to make ipv6 happen

it's not going to happen

vpoko
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Re: Stop trying to make ipv6 happen

Umm, it certainly will, it has no choice. What you're doing is like arguing 60 years ago that 10-digit dialing is never going to happen.

88615298
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Mike it's happening whether anyone wants it to or not. As vpoko said there isn't a choice in the matter. If anything it's not happening fast enough.

Mike
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Re: Stop trying to make ipv6 happen

I've been hearing about ipv6 for years upon years. Nothing is happening.

vpoko
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Re: Stop trying to make ipv6 happen

There wasn't going to be any serious movement on it until IPv4 addresses started running out. We're just getting to that point - actually, with reclamation, IPv4 will last us a few more years. Then what? You might not notice, but ISP's are keenly aware of how limited a 32 bit address space is, and they're not too hot on NAT because of the additional service calls it causes when it makes things break. I expect IPv6 to be be universal by 2020.
smcallah

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Nothing is happening on your end. But you are not an ISP that has been working on it for years and getting it ready to deploy.

Only recently has large scale network hardware been introduced that would work with IPv6 better than previous generations of routers and router software.

At home, nearly 1/3rd of my traffic has been IPv6 for the last month that I turned on IPv6 for every computer in my house. But the 1/3rd depends on what everyone is doing in the house.

If the phones and tablets in my house could use IPv6, then even more of my traffic would be IPv6.

IPv6 is coming, whether YOU personally see it or not. There are no new IPv4 addresses available. So I'm not sure what you think is going to happen with IPv4 that will make IPv6 not happen?

Carrier grade NAT is more expensive to maintain that routers running IPv6. ISP's do not want to NAT everything. And end users that like a real IP at home, and not a 10 net behind another 10 net address, do not want to lose the real IP they have.

NormanS
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said by Mike:

I've been hearing about ipv6 for years upon years. Nothing is happening.

Something is happening on my connection.
Tracing route to v6v4.portal-standard.aol.akadns.net [2001:4b0:1668:3c06:1::1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Chihiro [2001:470:1f05:448::1]
  2    37 ms    36 ms    37 ms  NKonaya-1.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:1f04:448::1]
  3    37 ms    31 ms    42 ms  gige-g5-19.core1.fmt2.he.net [2001:470:0:45::1]
  4    34 ms    32 ms    39 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:31::2]
  5    31 ms    36 ms    31 ms  as1668-aol-atdn.v309.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:1df::2]
  6    32 ms    31 ms    32 ms  ipv6-portal-sjg-1.evip.aol.com [2001:4b0:1668:3c06:1::1]
 
Trace complete.
 

And also:
Tracing route to www.google.com [2607:f8b0:4005:800::1013]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Chihiro [2001:470:1f05:448::1]
  2    37 ms    37 ms    37 ms  NKonaya-1.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:1f04:448::1]
  3    38 ms    31 ms    41 ms  gige-g5-19.core1.fmt2.he.net [2001:470:0:45::1]
  4    32 ms    38 ms    32 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:31::2]
  5    31 ms    32 ms    32 ms  2001:4860:1:1:0:1b1b:0:9
  6   228 ms    32 ms    45 ms  2001:4860::1:0:7ea
  7    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  2001:4860:0:1::691
  8    32 ms    32 ms    33 ms  nuq05s01-in-x13.1e100.net [2607:f8b0:4005:800::1013]
 
Trace complete.
 

And then

 
Tracing route to ds-any-fp3-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [2001:4998:c:401::c:9102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Chihiro [2001:470:1f05:448::1]
  2    37 ms    37 ms    37 ms  NKonaya-1.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:1f04:448::1]
  3    36 ms    32 ms    40 ms  gige-g5-19.core1.fmt2.he.net [2001:470:0:45::1]
  4    39 ms    32 ms    32 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:31::2]
  5    60 ms    61 ms    60 ms  eqnx.pat1.sj6.yahoo.com [2001:504:0:1:0:1:310:1]
  6    71 ms    71 ms    72 ms  ae-6.pat1.swp.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f005:7::]
  7    69 ms    70 ms   178 ms  ae-7.pat2.gqb.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f007:6::1]
  8    70 ms    70 ms    70 ms  ae-0.msr2.gq1.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f00f:203::1]
  9   129 ms   156 ms    71 ms  xe-7-0-0.clr2-a-gdc.gq1.yahoo.com [2001:4998:c:fc05::1]
 10    74 ms    73 ms    70 ms  2001:4998:c:fa01::1
 11    72 ms    71 ms    70 ms  2001:4998:c:e600::1
 12    70 ms    70 ms    70 ms  r2.ycpi.vip.gq1.yahoo.net [2001:4998:c:401::c:9102]
 
Trace complete.
 

That sure looks like a whoe lot of "Nothing"!

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fuziwuzi
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Which am I using?

Is there a way to tell if you're using IPv6 to connect to Google or other sites? When I perform the Xfinity IPv6 Readiness Test, I get the message, "Congratulations! You appear to have both IPv4 and IPv6 internet working. If a publisher publishes to IPv6, your browser will connect using IPv6. Your browser prefers IPv6 over IPv4 when given the choice (this is the expected outcome). "

Does that mean I'm connecting to Google and other sites via IPv6 automatically?
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Re: Which am I using?

said by fuziwuzi:

Is there a way to tell if you're using IPv6 to connect to Google or other sites?

Chrome:
IPvFoo - »chrome.google.com/webstore/detai···al?hl=en

FF:
IPvFox »addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox···/ipvfox/
smcallah

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Simply, if using Windows, just ping www.google.com. If the IP address is an IPv6 one, then you are using IPv6.

If using Linux or Mac OS X, then do ping6 www.google.com, if it works, you have IPv6.

DNS on modern Windows, Linux, and Mac always tries IPv6 first if you have an IPv6 interface on your computer that is up and active.

This makes transitioning to IPv6 pretty seamless.

mackey
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»www.ipv6-test.com/ will tell you which one your browser prefers.

/M

fuziwuzi
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Re: Which am I using?

Did you even bother to read my original comment, you know, the one where I quote the test results stating my browser's preference for IPv6? :P
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PapaMidnight

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...and it is an utter pain.

I, myself, have a 6-to-4 tunnel through HE.net that I use sometimes, in addition to native IPv6 from Comcast. Both are an utter pain, whether it be from DHCPv6 failure, a downed tunnel (in the case of HE.net), AAAA request failing to resolved, route failures, etc.
smcallah

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Re: ...and it is an utter pain.

My HE.net tunnel never seems to fail me. I have it on a Juniper SRX, always up. Never have any AAAA failures or anything of the like. My IPv6 traffic has been near 1/3rd of my total traffic from time to time.

rchandra
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Re: ...and it is an utter pain.

I can tell you're not a Time-Warner customer then. In their "infinite wisdom," while logging into their self-service portal, myservices, they think it was a bang-up idea not to respond with the usual SOA referral response to an AAAA query, but to drop it on the floor, causing many resolvers to wait just timing out the (non)response. This is despite themselves declaring to be participants in World IPv6 Day and World IPv6 Launch. God only knows why they thought this was a good idea, but my money's on paranoid firewall administrators.

As I have elected to receive PDF bills instead of paper bills, until recent months, I ran into this 2 or so minutes to log in on a monthly basis. Thankfully they have seen the error of their ways, and it has taken only seconds to log in lately.
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OwlSaver
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Clearly, there is only one way to speed IPv6 adoption

We need to declare that IPv8 is the next big thing and that everyone will need to move to it because IPv6 is about to run out of addresses and is too insecure. Then, everyone will jump on the IPv6 is good enough for us bandwagon. Before you know it, IPv6 will be widely deployed.
smcallah

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Re: Clearly, there is only one way to speed IPv6 adoption

Why would you skip version 7?

IPv5 wasn't skipped, it just wasn't used. And it had nothing to do with new IP address space.
paul248

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Re: Clearly, there is only one way to speed IPv6 adoption

There actually is an RFC for IPv7, from 1993:
»tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1475

Here's an excerpt:
And the "standard" loopback interface address becomes 192.0.0.127.0.0.1.1 (I can see explaining that in 2015 to someone born in 1995.)

88615298
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said by OwlSaver:

We need to declare that IPv8 is the next big thing and that everyone will need to move to it because IPv6 is about to run out of addresses and is too insecure.

While I'm sure that is sarcasm the fact is it will be impossible to run out of IPv6 addresses.

Kasoah

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Re: Clearly, there is only one way to speed IPv6 adoption

I'm the 2%
Bengie25

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Not impossible, but not feasible until we move past our solar system.
OwlSaver
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Yes, it was sarcasm. But, I added the secure part to give it a little life. I wonder if we will find a way to run out of IPv6 addresses. We do not have anywhere near 4 Billion IPv4 devices. But, the grouping of addresses is making us run out. It seems to me that we could back ourselves into a similar corner with IPv6. I just have not done the math to see what the likelihood is.

gerick

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San Antonio, TX
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Reluctantly in the 98%

If ATT would upgrade their firmware in their routers, then I would gladly use IPv6. As it is now, IPv6 is not supported.

Francis

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Re: Reluctantly in the 98%

I use AT&T and my router is IPv4 and IPv6 compatible. Maybe it's an issue with location? I live in Orange County, CA. If you live somewhere rural you might not get priority.

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Romania?

Really?