Google #4 On Spamhaus Spam Network List Verizon and Sprint at number 8 and 9, respectively Saturday Jan 10 2009 09:03 EDT Spamhaus maintains a running list of the worst spammers, biggest spam producing countries, and the networks that are the most tolerant to Spam. Interesting in this latest iteration is the fact that while Microsoft has cleaned up their act and booted spammers from their domains, those spammers appear to have fled to Google's networks, placing the onus on Google to uh, not be evil. Google is now ranked fourth on the Spamhaus network list. Brian Krebs of the excellent Washington Post Security Fix blog explains: quote: According to Spamhaus, spammers are using Google Documents to host pages that redirect to rogue pharmacy sites. The anti-spam group also documents a number of Google e-mail accounts being used to further so called "advance fee" or Nigerian 419 confidence scams.
Google says they've already begun "implementing improvements to minimize the impact of the issue." Other notable names on the list include Sprint and Verizon, who appear at numbers eight and nine on the list, respectively."Although all networks claim to be anti-spam, some network executives factor revenue made from hosting known spam gangs into corporate policy decisions to continue to sell services to spam operations," says Spamhaus. "Others simply decide that closing the holes in their end-user broadband systems that allow spammers access would be too costly to their bottom lines." |
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2009-Jan-10 9:31 am
Where's Google?I click on the link to the running list and there is no listing of Google, and Sprint and Verizon are 9 and 10 respectively... Posting date/time stamped, how could they be gone in 27 minutes? | |
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Re: Where's Google?Google currently has 18 entries - drops them off the top ten.
Let's hope it is because Google has gotten after the problem. | |
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2009-Jan-10 10:38 am
Re: Where's Google?said by K Patterson:Google currently has 18 entries - drops them off the top ten. Let's hope it is because Google has gotten after the problem. The Washington Post story probably had Google swing in to action and close some bad web sites to lessen the bad publicity. | |
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What?Huh. Google isn't on the list anymore and #4 was replaced with gilat.net.
It's a conspiracy, man! | |
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Re: What?said by michigandave:Huh. Google isn't on the list anymore and #4 was replaced with gilat.net. It's a conspiracy, man! Hmm.. Alien conspiracists also use low-res blurry photography. Comeon Karl the least you could do was give a high res screenshot! Edit: And really who cares who spams how much? We have declared that spam exists, lets go home now. All these spam lists is make it harder on the honest user. I mean majority of email servers drop email from residential IPs anyways, so whats the point? So we can point any laugh at different providers? And for those that say "but it helps stop spam from reaching my inbox!", they are fools. Show me an anti-spam system that works 100% guaranteed, drops spam but ALWAYS allows legit email to come in, (besides not receiving any emails, of course), no? Hey why don't we start a filtered national wireless internet? Anyone? Oh wait.... | |
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2009-Jan-10 9:53 am
January 5thThe article and image are from January 5th ... 5 days ago. | |
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2009-Jan-10 11:17 am
YMMVThe spamhaus list changes daily. You should also look at the spam volume by domain at Senderbase, where Google, Sprint, and Verizon have been in the top 10 for months. What is interesting in contrasting Spamhaus and Senderbase is that the Spamhaus one looks at a small set of bad IPs, which obviously is easier to clean up. Senderbase looks at all of the IPs in a given network, including the IPs of subscribers rather than just official mail and other servers. As a result, the Senderbase numbers for ISPs often show how bad their outbound spam is, usually due to botnets and phishing sites.
For portals like Google and Yahoo and Hotmail, the issue is due to the cracking of their captcha systems that allow web sites and documents to be created in bulk for malicious use.
This seems to have finally made the light of day - but this is the sort of problem that can't be cleaned up in a day. | |
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No surpriseGoogle got too big and too liberal - I use Ask.com or Cuil.com. | |
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2009-Jan-10 6:00 pm
I get more spam from Yahoo mailOur domain gets more spam from Yahoo servers than Gmail servers. Even moreso starting mid-december. | |
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2009-Jan-10 10:07 pm
Re: I get more spam from Yahoo mailAnd I'm getting Connection suggestions on Yahoo from spam email addresses saying I was in contact with said address! If I can turn off that permanently, I would (if anyone knows, PM me please) | |
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2009-Jan-10 9:23 pm
This is a surprise?One of, if not the biggest spam mails I've ever used. Not to mention just plain crappy speed too, compared to other web mails. Have 3 Gmail accounts. 2 of them, I've NEVER given the address out to anyone and get 30 spams a day. The one account I do use, get about 15-20 also. | |
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2009-Jan-11 1:35 pm
Re: This is a surprise?They're talking about spam being sent from Google's servers.
Please read the article. | |
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said by cork1958:One of, if not the biggest spam mails I've ever used. Not to mention just plain crappy speed too, compared to other web mails. Have 3 Gmail accounts. 2 of them, I've NEVER given the address out to anyone and get 30 spams a day. The one account I do use, get about 15-20 also. Same thing here. I opened a gmail account for testing purposes only. Two weeks ago I logged into the gmail account and WHAM 20+ spam messages. How did the spammers get my email address? Who knows maybe an inside job. I never gave my email address to anybody and I only sent one or two emails to my internal servers. | |
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Re: This is a surprise?It's not an inside job. Spammers send their crap to every possible combination of email addresses. They just got lucky and found yours. And they keep track of what doesn't bounce. | |
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GmailI've used Gmail as my primary for nearly 3 years now. I get maybe 5-10 spam messages a year. | |
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koam
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2009-Jan-11 7:04 am
Google is sloppyI can now regularly expect to get malicious links sent to me directly by Google when I use Google New Alerts. Malware distributors have figured out how to get nasty links sent directly by Google for innocent news searches. Google does a terrible job of filtering out the bad links. | |
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Re: Google is sloppyThey are getting better at adapting to the new tricks that the spammers are using. | |
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