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join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA | Truth If Google says it is, then it must be true! | |
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mikepd
Discovery
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-26
New Port Richey, FL
clubs: | Re: Truth Especially when it comes to something that will affect their bottom line.
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA | Re: Truth Let them fight their own battles | |
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join:2001-02-26
antarctica | Re: Truth The enemy of your enemy... etc.
We shouldn't discount the support of Google just because it's ALSO in their interest to keep the isps neutral. Just because they aren't selflessly acting on our behalf does that make them wrong? | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Just because it benefits them doesn't mean it's not true either. | |
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| jarthur31
join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM
 ·US Cable
| The MPAA and RIAA are wasting money by lobbying ISP's. They should make torrent technology illegal because after it all it has no lawful uses whatsoever.
Yes, I d/l but never to such a degree where it would congest my ISP's network. 35 GB is my all time high.
Hey, if the networks or their distributors won't release material I like to watch and would buy on DVD, then I'll find it online and take it for free. | |
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Devils Advocate
@bell.ca
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a333 
| You can't make a "technology" illegal! "They should make torrent technology illegal because after it all it has no lawful uses whatsoever."
@jarthur31, to put it simply... You're out to lunch!
BitTorrent technology is being adopted for many perfectly legitimate uses. And the technology is still considered to be in its "infancy".
If the ISPs would just stop kissing MAFIAA ass, and let this technology develop (instead of deliberately interfering with it), some really useful innovations revolving around its usage would surely emerge.
By your thinking, we should make things like CARS, KNIVES, PLASTIC BAGS, and even SPEECH illegal, as some people have used these things to seriously hurt of even kill others!
You cannot blame a TOOL for what some people do with it. Any technology is just that - a tool.
...Mind you, there ARE some "tools" I could blame for the current state of the Internet!
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Truth you might as well ban phones since they aid terrorists, or encryption software, since it helps druglords/terrorists communicate. Just cause a technology has a certain illegal uses doesn't mean you ban it... and there's nothing like bad publicity. When you ban it, more people learn about it, and it just moves underground to become more popular. Banning something isn't the solution, it only makes the illicit uses of it even more popular. | |
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join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
| said by jarthur31 :The MPAA and RIAA are wasting money by lobbying ISP's. They should make torrent technology illegal because after it all it has no lawful uses whatsoever. Yes, I d/l but never to such a degree where it would congest my ISP's network. 35 GB is my all time high. Hey, if the networks or their distributors won't release material I like to watch and would buy on DVD, then I'll find it online and take it for free. You might as well make ALL electronic devices illegal since everything can be used illegaly in some way or another. Just turn off electricity too and running water and cars and we'll just go back to the stone age. | |
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join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | i think bit torrent and other p2p usage should be increased. in general, it reduces the main content provider/hoster needed bandwidth and can increase the speed of the downloader. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| said by tad2020 :If Google says it is, then it must be true! It is true. Bell is throttling connections to the Internet.... not just on their service, but for other ISP's as well.
If you've been reading the Teksavvy forums, you'll realize Google is late to the game on this issue.
Still doesn't make them wrong, however.
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA | Re: Truth I was poking fun at the people that automatically believes everything that someone on their side says.
But, yeah, what Bell is doing is wrong and set a dangerous precedent for making future "network management" blockages. | |
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LaZ3R
Premium
join:2003-01-17
Toronto, ON
clubs: | YES! Google!! SAVE US CANADIANS!! TARGET ROGERS NEXT!! Please for the love of God! 
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | Re: YES! Google!! I second that.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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July 7th, @06:10PM
| Very interesting ,,, That Google has hired a former Bell Canada Operations operations president.
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devrandom
I got a pot, full of random stuff here
Premium
join:2003-06-28
| Re: Very interesting ,,, said by en102 :That Google has hired a former Bell Canada Operations operations president. Usually when you use something like that in a news snippet its to emphasize collusion between two parties, but Google has done the opposite here (which is never the norm when these things are mentioned). Although one does have to wonder if Google would not have jumped in if it were not in their best interests (of course, that is probably a rhetorical question). | |
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Re: Very interesting ,,, said by devrandom : Although one does have to wonder if Google would not have jumped in if it were not in their best interests (of course, that is probably a rhetorical question). For sure this would be in Google's best interest, but at the same time, if it can possibly help sway the end result to our benefit, what the hell. Google has a lot more clout than You, I, or many of us combined. | |
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| brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
| said by en102 :That Google has hired a former Bell Canada Operations operations president. And what is your point? This is a companies policy not an individuals policy. The former operations president is a person and needs a job to make money you know. | |
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ztmike
1kwikgt
Premium
join:2001-08-02 | lol Amazing what high priced lawyers can do..and a company that is worth billions. (Google)
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Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: lol It's amazing what lobbying can do with bigger pockets and "donations". Google doesnt have a big say in lobbying. Bell could easily buy their way through all of it in the end. But Google won't do that cause they're all for the common good. | |
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Froggy
@bell.ca | breaking the law Bell couldn't escape the jaded eye of google. We can only pray that more well known companies get involved. | |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC | Google vs Bell Google is lead by two nerds who understand the internet and technology.
Bell is lead by accountants who have no clue on what their services are and make decisions based on how neat a powerpoint presentation is. | |
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SALAMANCA
join:2008-06-07
Toronto, ON
| Google vs Bell  How true. And Rogers is no better. I just hope for the sake of all Rogers subscriber's that someone has enough nerve hold Rogers accountable for their actions, as Bell is being held accountable for their actions.  | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: Google vs Bell Sadly though, I'm not sure who would win the battle. | |
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Capharnaum
join:2006-06-19
Montreal, QC | Funniest thing is... If Bell wouldn't have throttled third party ISPs, nobody would be talking about this right now. Now Bell may compromise Sympatico's throttling with this awakening. What a bunch of tools... | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
| Google Is a Joke Google is one to talk about blocking the free flow of information online:
»www.google.com/search?sourceid=n···ogs+spam
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| CWO333
join:2005-02-24
Chicago, IL
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July 8th, @02:06AM
| Re: Google Is a Joke Yes but didn't they fix that instead of continuously stopping it? Things could have glitches and they did work to reverse it in a timely manner. The biggest difference here is Google wasn't trying to defend the blocking in an interest to keep it blocked. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
| Re: Google Is a Joke said by CWO333 :Yes but didn't they fix that instead of continuously stopping it? Things could have glitches and they did work to reverse it in a timely manner. Funny how all the "glitches" just happen to be on websites that disagree with Google's political opinions.
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SimpleGypsy
@cgocable.net
| Here's Hoping Google Throttles Bell As a canadian who has had to (angrily) deal with Bell for over 20 years I sincerely wish that Google will use every one of their resources to take Bell to the cleaners. Bell is a canadian monopoly that needs to be destroyed.
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