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Google Browser Available Today
Google fires fresh shot in browser wars...
According to a post on the Google Blog, the search giant is expected to unveil a beta version of a new Google web browser today. Dubbed Chrome, the new browser promises to be quick, stable and secure -- at least according to this comic created by the company to promote the browser. There's some screenshots available here for those interested, and Mozilla CEO John Lily gives his thoughts on the new competitor here. The folks at Google explain how the new browser is really almost a web OS designed to improve web-based applications:
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Under the hood, we were able to build the foundation of a browser that runs today's complex web applications much better. By keeping each tab in an isolated "sandbox", we were able to prevent one tab from crashing another and provide improved protection from rogue sites. We improved speed and responsiveness across the board. We also built a more powerful JavaScript engine, V8, to power the next generation of web applications that aren't even possible in today's browsers.
The (initially Windows only) browser should be available for download later on today.
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patcat88
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anything is an upgrade

Lets hope it doesn't suck CPU and RAM and GPU like FurryFox.

Although the problem is, its from Google. Prepare to hand over your first born for Google's data mining.

dr3yec
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Re: anything is an upgrade

People bitch about everything.

GD38
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Re: anything is an upgrade

Well that's because we Americans aren't truly happy unless we are complaining, criticizing or being general naysayers for naysaying's sake.

It's amazing after thousands of years of existence we still think "perfect" is attainable. I'm sure Chrome will work well enough.

james16
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Re: anything is an upgrade

said by GD38 :

It's amazing after thousands of years of existence we still think "perfect" is attainable.
You've been around for thousands of years!? You must have one horrible case of prune face!

roc5955
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because they can.

GlobalMind
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Well I know at least on my home box Firefox can indeed use up quite the memory & cpu.

But one can't really dis FF here lest one be flamed.

mckenna797
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NY Times Article on the google browser

»www.nytimes.com/2008/09/ ··· ermalink

swhx7
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You overstate a little, but it is likely to be designed for data collection by Google.

Like other Google products, however, it will appeal with handy features - among other things, built-in support for Google applications. You'll have a whole suite of software available online thru the Google browser.

It will have good security against 3rd-party hacks, but none against Google. Millions who don't mind that will take it up just like they have done with the Google Toolbar.

adsfasdfsaf114
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Re: anything is an upgrade

And probably adblocks for all except, well Google Ads.
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said by patcat88:

Lets hope it doesn't suck CPU and RAM and GPU like FurryFox.

Although the problem is, its from Google. Prepare to hand over your first born for Google's data mining.
Let me guess your also a Vista hater because it doesn't run on your P3 system.

Have you looked at computer prices lately? If you seriously have a problem running FireFox I really suggest you think about upgrading.

The whole complaining about memory/cpu issues is ridiculous. You can get a cheap 2GB set of memory for around $25 bucks.

GD38
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Re: anything is an upgrade

Touche.

kamm
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Stop with the BS analogies - Vista IS a PoS, grabage, scum of the Earth OS, PERIOD.

It runs like a dog on a quad core with 2GB memory compared to Xp. I oversee ~200 machine network and we NEVER will switch to Vista as long as I'm in charge for the technology here (high-end visualization firm.)

Vista is A JUNK, typical PoS MS 'comittee'-designed end product.

roc5955
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roc5955

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Re: anything is an upgrade

That's okay. The next version of Windows will be called, "Windows Hasta La Vista!"

Razzy2
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Bullshit.

Quad core Vista > Quad core Ex Pee

bent
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bent

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Re: anything is an upgrade

said by Razzy2:

Bullshit.

Quad core Vista > Quad core Ex Pee
Con.
Expand your moderator at work

imakeholsinu
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said by kamm:

Stop with the BS analogies - Vista IS a PoS, grabage, scum of the Earth OS, PERIOD.

It runs like a dog on a quad core with 2GB memory compared to Xp. I oversee ~200 machine network and we NEVER will switch to Vista as long as I'm in charge for the technology here (high-end visualization firm.)

Vista is A JUNK, typical PoS MS 'comittee'-designed end product.
This probably has something to do with running Vista with 2GB of memory. That is like running XP with 512MB of memory.

LeftOfSanity
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said by kamm:

Stop with the BS analogies - Vista IS a PoS, grabage, scum of the Earth OS, PERIOD.

It runs like a dog on a quad core with 2GB memory compared to Xp. I oversee ~200 machine network and we NEVER will switch to Vista as long as I'm in charge for the technology here (high-end visualization firm.)

Vista is A JUNK, typical PoS MS 'comittee'-designed end product.
tell us how you really feel.

Binary2335
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said by kamm:

Stop with the BS analogies - Vista IS a PoS, grabage, scum of the Earth OS, PERIOD.

It runs like a dog on a quad core with 2GB memory compared to Xp. I oversee ~200 machine network and we NEVER will switch to Vista as long as I'm in charge for the technology here (high-end visualization firm.)

Vista is A JUNK, typical PoS MS 'comittee'-designed end product.
Have you ever check windows update? not garage anymore if you update it!!!

GlobalMind
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said by BB_Hunter:

said by patcat88:

Lets hope it doesn't suck CPU and RAM and GPU like FurryFox.

Although the problem is, its from Google. Prepare to hand over your first born for Google's data mining.
Let me guess your also a Vista hater because it doesn't run on your P3 system.

Have you looked at computer prices lately? If you seriously have a problem running FireFox I really suggest you think about upgrading.

The whole complaining about memory/cpu issues is ridiculous. You can get a cheap 2GB set of memory for around $25 bucks.
How's a P4 3.4GHz with 2GB? It isn't a matter of the system speed, but that FF does indeed eat up CPU & memory...just like every other app out there.

Oh but on the Quad core 4GB system I am on right now, it works great! LOL

I have Chrome installed, posting from it as I type. Seems to work.
ctggzg
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BS and/or irrational paranoia on both points.
Corydon
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said by patcat88:

Lets hope it doesn't suck CPU and RAM and GPU like FurryFox.
I can see that this would be a problem for people with older computers, but TBH, to what extent is this really an issue for most folks?

I would have thought that the rate determining step for the speed you display a web page is the latency and speed of your internet connection, not how fast your browser can render the page.

Anyone have any hard data?

Transmaster
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If FireFox is sucking to many of your resources that is your fault. You don't have to load all of those extensions. If FireFox is sucking you dry, why aren't you bitching about Explorer, and Safari as well. And before you point out Safari is only for Apple compters let me point you to the excellent Windows version
»www.apple.com/safari/download/

kamm
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Re: anything is an upgrade

said by Transmaster:

If FireFox is sucking to many of your resources that is your fault. You don't have to load all of those extensions. If FireFox is sucking you dry, why aren't you bitching about Explorer, and Safari as well. And before you point out Safari is only for Apple compters let me point you to the excellent Windows version
»www.apple.com/safari/download/
Safari sucks, it's almost as bad as IE7. Firefox is nice but as he pointed out very well it's a MEMORY HOG.

So far the best is still Opera but unfortunately some pages still look weird in it...

Transmaster
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Re: anything is an upgrade

I will admit I have Safari but I don't often use it I am FireFox person. The only it seem like lately I am have more and more trouble getting webpage to work properly with FireFox this was a rare thing indeed in past years.
I have a hard time getting some streaming radio station to work with FireFox, they run ok on IE. I have no idea why it is really irritating.

BinaryXtreme6
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Look at patcat's posts and you can see that he does bitch about everything. Firefox sucking up your cpu and ram? How many extensions are you running? Your post is dribble.

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I wonder...

How this will turn out....

Corehhi
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Re: I wonder...

said by bullet890 :

How this will turn out....
Down the road the Google OS will be coming out. They have office, now a browser and it keeps going. I would love nothing better than to see an OS with a good GUI to rival windows.
EPS4
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Re: I wonder...

Like... Mac OSX? (Of course that has its own problems, and I think the Windows UI is better than the Mac, but it's still an OS with a good GUI that can rival Windows)

Corehhi
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Re: I wonder...

said by EPS4:

Like... Mac OSX? (Of course that has its own problems, and I think the Windows UI is better than the Mac, but it's still an OS with a good GUI that can rival Windows)
True but most computers aren't apples. The number is coming up but at the moment windows has a huge market share with really no comps unless you go buy a more expensive apple computer. Linux? Not ready for prime time. For change to happen you need something that is easy to use.

I know I would like a barebones OS that doesn't cause problems with windows programs. I would think you could make it a much more secure OS by not making it bloat ware.
TherapyChick
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said by Corehhi:

said by bullet890 :

How this will turn out....
Down the road the Google OS will be coming out. They have office, now a browser and it keeps going. I would love nothing better than to see an OS with a good GUI to rival windows.
I've thought about the whole Google OS thing, and although it sounds cool, they really don't need to, and I don't think they will.

The OS is the BROWSER. Think about it. Web apps are "the next big thing", heck web apps are the big thing right now. The OS almost doesn't even matter.

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interesting

It is a bit interesting that Google has launched a browser after they just renewed their deal with Mozilla. Obviously this browser is still in the works, and it takes years for something to be adopted my a significant number of people.

It will take a lot to convert me over from Firefox if this project continues. I remember using Firefox pre v1.0... a lot has since changed. Maybe this afternoon I'll download the google browser and see if it has anything new to offer.

Everyone likes competition.... right?

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quetwo
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Another JS engine!!

Why, oh, why did google decide to develop a brand new JS engine that we all need to hack around the quirks. They should have joined the Tamarin project that Mozilla and Adobe OpenSource are sponsoring... Seeing as it already works with WebKit....

»www.mozilla.org/projects ··· tamarin/

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Matt3
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38 pages?

A 38 page comic? Wow.

I'm interested in their Javascript engine. People don't realize that most browsers are NOT multi-threaded, especially the Javascript engine. Hopefully they have really amped up the performance of their Javascript engine or made it multi-threaded.

crippy
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addons + extensions

it will take sometime for me to move to it as i cant live without my firefox extensions/addons... but im pretty sure google is definately not dumb to release something similar to other stuff, there will be something off the hook in it.. looking forward to check it out

battleop
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Oh yea!

Oh I am just so excited at the prospect of supporting yet another browser. I am sure Yahoo isn't too far behind either. Is there anything that the big three search engines can do on their own with out coping the other?

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primeangel
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meh

do we REALLY need another browser?
seems that ie, firefox, safari, and opera
are more then sufficient

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stunod2002
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Nothing spectacular

While I admit I haven't used it yet (no download yet) but from the screen shots provided the appearance is nothing to impressive - IMO.. Hopefully it works better than it looks!

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Locutus65
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Looks interesting

I'm a huge fan of FF but I'll give Chrome a try. Can't hurt.

AVD
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will this be the download page?

»gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

google "google chrome download"

eula page:

»gears.google.com/chrome/ ··· ml?hl=en

[edit] privacy policy

»gears.google.com/chrome/ ··· acy.html

fancydancer
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Re: will this be the download page?

said by AVD:

»gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

google "google chrome download"

eula page:

»gears.google.com/chrome/ ··· ml?hl=en
Both of those links just take me to Google's homepage, its not available until later today.

Warzau
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Re: will this be the download page?

said by fancydancer:

said by AVD:

»gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

google "google chrome download"

eula page:

»gears.google.com/chrome/ ··· ml?hl=en
Both of those links just take me to Google's homepage, its not available until later today.
Same Here

dnoyeB
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Packed with great ideas.

This browser is built with sound ideas and should serve to break one of my age old frustrations with browsers. How they allow one rogue plugin to smach the whole browser.

Im going to get this for sure. The presentation was very well done. However, lots of it is presented as innovative ideas but is really just good intentions. Looks like they will make much more crash proof. But as for security, maybe some, but still plugins can violate your whole architecture. They only say this after they show all the beauty of their architecture.

One of the main things I wanted to see and why I read through the whole presentation is conformance to the ADA. I did not see anything about screen readers or other assistive technology.

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Millenniumle
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...

I have serious reservations about using a browser made by a advertising giant, one that already plants persistant cookies from nearly every corner of the internet.

Now I should give them control of what is controlling the cookie handling? I wouldn't be surprised to learn the browser sends out its own unigue identifier along with browsing history straight to Google.

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DustySilicon
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Google OS

I find it very interesting that Google keeps comparing Chrome with an operating system... I'm sure, someday soon, you will have a Chrome OS that can be embedded in all kinds of devices, appliances, and computers. Look out MS & Apple....
Radioman991
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I have been using it since April....

.....either use it or don't use it. Its just that simple. No one is MAKING you use Chrome, or ___FILL__IN___THE___BLANK___ browser.

I didn't see anyone with a gun to anyone's head. Use what works for YOU.
mobbo
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Re: I have been using it since April....

This made me chuckle. So much drama. I will be testing this browser out at work to see what benefits it can have for our company as a whole. If I can have a browser that stops malware at the source, I would implement it company-wide. Of course, it will take a lot of testing to do so... and I'd probably have to call it Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 or something (people love to bitch).

I used to think browsers weren't a big deal, but reading that comic really opened my eyes to the vulnerabilites of everything else. I'm just glad to see another option out there!
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Re: I have been using it since April....

just hold a company-wide class in using firefox with noscript, and use active directory to disable internet exploder.

JunkieXL1
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:|

So has anyone downloaded it yet? The download link seems to redirect me to google's home page for some reason.

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ReVeLaTeD
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I'm sure I'm in the minority but

I would have rather seen Google revive what used to be Netscape. Basically, take what was the first version of Netscape Communicator - with all 4 core apps - and make them all Google.

Google Navigator
Gmail
Google News
Google Groups

Then throw in the cool stuff:

Google Sites
Google Products
Picasa
GrandCentral

Oh well. I guess it was too much to ask.

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Jehu
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Yay

Google Chrome: Because we don't completely own your life yet.

dadkins
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Re: Yay

said by Jehu:

Google Chrome: Because we don't completely own your life yet.
Own, perhaps not.
Know everything you do, probably.
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Google Chrome: Because we don't completely own your life yet.
Slogan of the year!

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Google Chrome

Google Chrome stole some ideas from opera lol after the press conference this will go live......
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Fantastic Process-base model

When I read the non-technical article in my paper-based Old Media, I thought "meh, it's google trying to challenge everyone. again." But after reading their long and silly comic, I think I'm going to give it a try. It seems that google's effort to hire the brightest software engineers is paying off.

To the people commenting on the GUI: Uh what? This is a browser, what really counts is what's under the hood. (Erm, well let's not talk about Netscape 7)

Edit: Also recognizing the comic's artist was kinda neat. (Scott McCloud)
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