Google CEO Predicts End Of Anonymity Though is there any remaining anonymity left to lose? Paired with revelations that Google's now BFFs with Verizon, the company's certainly not doing any favors for their brand image this week. Speaking at the Techonomy conference in Lake Tahoe this week, Google CEO Eric Schmidt was busy making marginally creepy predictions that the end of user anonymity is at hand to prevent "the misuse of information for criminal or anti-social purposes": "The only way to manage this is true transparency and no anonymity. In a world of asynchronous threats, it is too dangerous for there not to be some way to identify you. We need a [verified] name service for people. Governments will demand it." Though the comments didn't exactly warm hearts among the growing number of people concerned with the volume of data that Google's collecting daily, Schmidt's statement isn't particularly shocking or revolutionary in context. That context being that we live in an age when ISPs are already funneling your data wholesale to the NSA without a warrant, sell your every online movement to a litany of shoppers, and are just starting to realize how much money can be made from tracking your every wireless movement. Combine that with users Foursquaring, Tweeting and Facebooking their every activity, and it becomes pretty clear that anonymity (barring extensive steps to ensure it) is a pipe dream.
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 | | We knew this already... Anyone who is surprised by this statement has been living in a fairyland.
Everyone since the first BBS's have known that eventually the concept of a "UserName" would disappear. Look at Blizzards recent attempt at the "Real Name" system to cut down on forum trolls. This was just a small part of the work that corporations and Governments will be doing over the next few years.
The Time of the Wild West on the internet is ending. Law-n-Order (or what ever you want to call it) will be settling in soon. Get use to it.
In the future the only way to make sure people don't know who you are online will be to do it the old fashion Sci-Fi way... become a "Mr X" who hides out and makes pirate video broadcasts across the globe.
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kudos:4 | Re: We knew this already... said by Devanchya:In the future the only way to make sure people don't know who you are online will be to do it the old fashion Sci-Fi way... become a "Mr X" who hides out and makes pirate video broadcasts across the globe. Actually, I have no problem with non-anonymous availability of info to ISP; NSA; police authorities; etc. But I do have a problem with every yahoo on the internet knowing my real name; addr; phone number; etc. Too many sickos out there to not have anonymous access to internet web sites; bulletin boards; comments at newspapers; etc.
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| | | | good luck tracking me. Most of the time i posted by borrowing wifi. Usernames are on most boards are different. In reality tracking me is hard. | |
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| Re: We knew this already... I think it all becomes immeasurably less spooky if what's being collected is entirely transparent, consumers are given the tools they need to manage their online identities, and we have effective regulatory protections in place for abuse.
Just in case I gave the impression I'm entirely defeatist on the issue.  | |
| | | | | | | Re: We knew this already... said by Karl Bode: and we have effective regulatory protections in place for abuse. I hope this was sarcasm at its finest, otherwise I'd have to take issue with this statement!
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Marietta, GA | What is more of a problem is if someone could come along and "create" data that appears "official" and then that could be used against you. Similar to a TSA agent slipping a little "something" into a bag just to make someone's day interesting (which if memory serves actually happened at the Philadelphia airport earlier this year). | |
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| | | | I like your attitude, everyone else who just "let's" there Constitutional Rights sink down the drain sickens me!!!! Land of the Free - ha! What a bunch of Fuck'n BullShit - I blame the people for being slackers and truly being Un-American!!! This nation is too celebrity-driven, narcissistic, hysterical, xenophobic FUCKERS!!!!! TV is also to blame, it has insulated the masses to such a degree, that as a nation we just ignore all that is repulsive. Therefore, I ask you, how do you truly make informed decisions when you only get part of the story? The FCC in its recent secret meetings with big Verizon, AT&T, Google, etc,. Not to mention world events, Israel/Palestine conflict, we're to cozy with Israel, and as such we only get a one way story! That's a fact!!! | |
| | | | | | Re: We knew this already... Damn, man. That was impressive how you turned that into a rant about Israel. Well done. | |
| | | | | | | Re: We knew this already... the only thing he missed was "think of the children"!
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| | | | | | | | Re: We knew this already... i agree.what does israel have to do with this post anyways
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| said by silentlooker:good luck tracking me. Most of the time i posted by borrowing wifi. Usernames are on most boards are different. In reality tracking me is hard. When they sold your computer to you, they had the MAC address in their database. Did you link your name to that purchase in ANY way?
Well, your MAC address is transmitted through air in the wifi connection. That's where it stops and goes via IPv4 without your MAC address in it (although a recent article mentioned IPv6 may be different in that it can include the MAC address even if you're a passer-by.
So why would you fear your MAC address when it stops transmission at the wifi router? Two things: (1) if a sniffer is local, they could see you. But more pressing is #2: (2) actually, the wifi router may send your MAC address out across the Internet anyway. It might happen as an informational packet, a BOOTP/DHCP packet, a logging packet, a tracking packet, or something else of the sort.
Add that to correlative data mining from things like your browser identity, viruses, hidden programs, etc., and you might be surprised to find that your information does leak out occasionally. The same correlative data mining will be able to assign you to your MAC address to some degree (a strong degree), eventually, if you ever reveal it somehow. The only question remains, is it enough to be a threat? | |
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kudos:5 | Re: We knew this already... said by Ulmo:The same correlative data mining will be able to assign you to your MAC address to some degree (a strong degree), eventually, if you ever reveal it somehow. The only question remains, is it enough to be a threat? Google collected my MAC address at least six months ago. Because of that, Twitter thinks I'm still in a different state. Lesson: even though they've got your data, it doesn't mean it's correct.
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|  danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA | The keyword there, about Blizzard, is *attempt*. They angered so many users they backtracked away from the idea after a few days. I'm an avid WoW player, and I followed the thread with great interest, and was extremely opposed to the idea.
Most things on the internet do not need your real name attached to them. When you walk into a physical store, you don't automatically broadcast your full name and other personal details to them. You might carry an ID on you, but, if you're just shopping at Target, for instance, no one knows your real name just by looking at you. You can pay in cash, and go on your merry way with your purchases. No one knows who you are. If you commit a crime while there, they'll have certain information about you that helps them track you down - your footage on a security camera, a license plate number from your car in the parking lot - but they don't directly have your real name. Neither does that random person you meet in the bar, have a one night stand with, never give your name to, and never see again.
That's what bugs me about the comparisons to how we have no anonymity in the real world. Sure we do. No one walks around with their name plastered on their shirt or glowing above their head in neon letters. In some ways, you almost have more anonymity, because if you pay in cash for everything, you really are off the grid. Everything we do under our online personas is already attached to usernames/usernames and can be traced back to an ISP. Whenever we participate in an online forum like this, or buy something, some kind of identifying information is available about us. Not so in the "real world". I can have conversations with people I don't know and never reveal my identity. Do you announce your name and address to the person you pass on the bike trail and stop to discuss the weather with? Highly unlikely. Short of following the person to see where they live, or asking their name, you'll never know who they are.
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| | | | | Re: We knew this already... said by danawhitaker:Most things on the internet do not need your real name attached to them. When you walk into a physical store, you don't automatically broadcast your full name and other personal details to them. You might carry an ID on you, but, if you're just shopping at Target, for instance, no one knows your real name just by looking at you. You can pay in cash, and go on your merry way with your purchases. No one knows who you are. If you commit a crime while there, they'll have certain information about you that helps them track you down - your footage on a security camera, a license plate number from your car in the parking lot - but they don't directly have your real name. Neither does that random person you meet in the bar, have a one night stand with, never give your name to, and never see again. That's what bugs me about the comparisons to how we have no anonymity in the real world. Sure we do. No one walks around with their name plastered on their shirt or glowing above their head in neon letters. In some ways, you almost have more anonymity, because if you pay in cash for everything, you really are off the grid. Everything we do under our online personas is already attached to usernames/usernames and can be traced back to an ISP. Whenever we participate in an online forum like this, or buy something, some kind of identifying information is available about us. Not so in the "real world". I can have conversations with people I don't know and never reveal my identity. Do you announce your name and address to the person you pass on the bike trail and stop to discuss the weather with? Highly unlikely. Short of following the person to see where they live, or asking their name, you'll never know who they are. How do you trace someone when they are using open wifi? Where i am sitting right now, i can see 6 open wifi to which i can connect. How do you trace someone in that case? | |
| | | | danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA | Re: We knew this already... Open wifi at home, or at a public place? If it's a public place, and I were with law enforcement, I'd contact the businesses in question and check security footage in and around the vicinity of the open wifi for people who might be accessing the system. If it were in a residential area, and I were investigating a crime, I'd try to get any information I could from the owner of the connection about who was accessing it at that time. I maybe couldn't find you specifically, directly, but I could sure narrow down the search.
You're in the minority. Most people aren't doing that. Most people have some kind of stable internet connection, at home, at work, etc. Though, I admit, that's definitely undergoing a shift as people get more and more mobile devices like iPhones and iPads. But with the sheer number of cameras around, I'd never be arrogant enough to assume no one could have at least a start on tracking me down. You're still leaving a trail on whatever connection you *were* using.
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| | | | | | If you're really interested in tracking someone, you can track someone by MAC Address or by physical surveillance. Like someone else said were all so boring it's not worth it, besides I don't think the FBI has enough manpower to follow everyone around.
Speaking of name glowing in neon above your head, awesome novels by Daniel Suarez, Daemon and Freedom™ have names floating above people's heads. Haha! | |
| | | | | | | Re: We knew this already... said by ZachAttack:If you're really interested in tracking someone, you can track someone by MAC Address or by physical surveillance. Like someone else said were all so boring it's not worth it, besides I don't think the FBI has enough manpower to follow everyone around. Speaking of name glowing in neon above your head, awesome novels by Daniel Suarez, Daemon and Freedom™ have names floating above people's heads. Haha! Mac address easy to change so that is kind of hard. It's true that following everyone around is nearly impossible. | |
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Onion, NJ | Re: We knew this already... said by silentlooker:said by ZachAttack:If you're really interested in tracking someone, you can track someone by MAC Address or by physical surveillance. Like someone else said were all so boring it's not worth it, besides I don't think the FBI has enough manpower to follow everyone around. Speaking of name glowing in neon above your head, awesome novels by Daniel Suarez, Daemon and Freedom™ have names floating above people's heads. Haha! Mac address easy to change so that is kind of hard. It's true that following everyone around is nearly impossible. Until you log into your email, and give away the store.
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| | | |  VR LauraQueen Of CyberspacePremium
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NYC | said by silentlooker:How do you trace someone when they are using open wifi? Where i am sitting right now, i can see 6 open wifi to which i can connect. How do you trace someone in that case? I think the point is that they can build a profile about you. E.g., if while you're on that open WIFI and logging in to DSLR's forum, then what you've just posted becomes part of the profile for the username associated with it. And yes, not everyone using an open WIFI posts anonymously. Vanity prevents that.
OTOH, if when using an open WIFI connection you only browse the internet and don't log into any website, e.g. your bank, messageboards or your e-mail account via a browser, then you're "safe" from "snooping", or at least safe from what you've just done online getting "added" to your "profile".
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| | | | | | | | | | What you've described ( i.e paying cash to not be tracked) may be true right now, but all of that is very quickly changing.
RFID's which are already in many credit cards, shopping cards and will soon be stitched into the clothing you wear, will transmit everything about you to receivers planted all over the retail world, workplaces and very soon public spaces. Nearly every inch of our public spaces have camera monitoring (and if not 100% now, it soon will be). Retail and other commercial spaces are already at very near 100% video monitoring. This coupled with advances in face recognition software and very fast computer processing speeds (the real threat to anonymity is the increasing ability to process vast amounts of data quickly), whats left of our 'anonymity' will be gone from all urban areas - my guess is in about 3 to 5 years. All it will take is govt applying face recognition to images they already have of you (drivers license,passport, etc). Its the new fingerprint.
Our very faces will be the equivalent of holding up a giant sign containing information on who you are, where you live, where you work, DOB, eating habits, shopping habits, who your friends are, websites you like to visit, places you've been to recently, etc, etc.
" When you walk into a physical store, you don't automatically broadcast your full name and other personal details to them. You might carry an ID on you, but, if you're just shopping at Target, for instance, no one knows your real name just by looking at you. You can pay in cash, and go on your merry way with your purchases. No one knows who you are. If you commit a crime while there, they'll have certain information about you that helps them track you down - your footage on a security camera, a license plate number from your car in the parking lot - but they don't directly have your real name.
No one walks around with their name plastered on their shirt or glowing above their head in neon letters. In some ways, you almost have more anonymity, because if you pay in cash for everything, you really are off the grid." | |
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Basketball Coach Nailed in Sex Scandal by Internet
September 12, 2010 -- Bryan Wisher, head basketball coach at Eastern University, was fired yesterday after a FBI sting found he was a client of a call girl service. His Google searches revealed hundreds of call girl searches. He also used his cellphone Internet to arrange services.
Asst. U.S. Marla Ryan said, "No one is anonymous on the Internet. The university reported it to police and then us and we found he had been arranging dates in nearly 30 cities. Just because he used Yahoo and Gmail doesn't mean he couldn't get caught nor could anyone else."
Bryan Wisher faces 22 counts of solicitation which carries up to 22 years in prison. Calls were not returned from the university or the coach's lawyer. Boosters and players all said he was a nice guy and they never expected he was Eliot Spitzer. -AP Wire Reports | |
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Onion, NJ | Re: We knew this already... said by cameronsfx:AP Basketball Coach Nailed in Sex Scandal by Internet September 12, 2010 -- Bryan Wisher, head basketball coach at Eastern University, was fired yesterday after a FBI sting found he was a client of a call girl service. His Google searches revealed hundreds of call girl searches. He also used his cellphone Internet to arrange services. Asst. U.S. Marla Ryan said, "No one is anonymous on the Internet. The university reported it to police and then us and we found he had been arranging dates in nearly 30 cities. Just because he used Yahoo and Gmail doesn't mean he couldn't get caught nor could anyone else." Bryan Wisher faces 22 counts of solicitation which carries up to 22 years in prison. Calls were not returned from the university or the coach's lawyer. Boosters and players all said he was a nice guy and they never expected he was Eliot Spitzer. -AP Wire Reports Can you get me some stock prices on that day too?
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| | | | | | Re: We knew this already... said by AVD:said by cameronsfx:AP Basketball Coach Nailed in Sex Scandal by Internet September 12, 2010 -- Bryan Wisher, head basketball coach at Eastern University, was fired yesterday after a FBI sting found he was a client of a call girl service. His Google searches revealed hundreds of call girl searches. He also used his cellphone Internet to arrange services. Asst. U.S. Marla Ryan said, "No one is anonymous on the Internet. The university reported it to police and then us and we found he had been arranging dates in nearly 30 cities. Just because he used Yahoo and Gmail doesn't mean he couldn't get caught nor could anyone else." Bryan Wisher faces 22 counts of solicitation which carries up to 22 years in prison. Calls were not returned from the university or the coach's lawyer. Boosters and players all said he was a nice guy and they never expected he was Eliot Spitzer. -AP Wire Reports Can you get me some stock prices on that day too? I can if I can get Gordon Gekko on the phone tomorrow. | |
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kudos:5 | This is just a heads up... That the trial run of google's full data collection was successful. Just waiting now for the wink, wink, nudge, nudge before implemented in earnest. | |
| |  SSX4lifeHello WorldPremium
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kudos:2 | Re: This is just a heads up... mark of the beast here we come! | |
| | |  TigerLordResident pentaxianPremium,Mod
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kudos:5 | Re: This is just a heads up... Skynet's coming for real. Call Arnold! | |
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| | hmm How much information is being gathered off those Android phones. | |
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kudos:1 | For the Children! This is all about the children! Sheesh!  | |
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| This is the same Google These guys are only interested in making a buck off anything they mine and sell about you, just like they've been from the beginning. For some reason they've received a free pass from the world for years, but maybe people are starting to wake up and realize what Google is really all about under the dumb exterior of "do no evil" and endless beta's of mostly useless applications.
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| Is Schmidt speaking for himself or the government?
One man's anti-social behavior is another man's freedom of speech.
Fascism is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.
Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the conventional left-right political spectrum.
Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.
Fascists reject and resist the autonomy of cultural or ethnic groups who are not considered part of the fascists' nation and who refuse to assimilate or are unable to be assimilated. They consider attempts to create such autonomy as an affront and a threat to the nation. Under fascism, the will and autonomy of the individual is subjugated to that of the state.
In layman's terms, most of the far-right Republicans and almost certainly all Teabaggers in the USA, and some of the Reform Conservatives in Canada fit the fascist bill quite well. | |
| | | | Re: Is Schmidt speaking for himself or the government? Yeah ok, you go run with that buddy! LOL | |
| | | | | Re: Is Schmidt speaking for himself or the government? It amazes me how Americans can't or refuse to see the forest for the trees. Here we have an articulate and eloquent description of the Fascist State and how Conservative Corporate American ideology fits the model almost to a T, and immediately we have a rejectivist comment in response. | |
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Minneapolis, MN | Re: Is Schmidt speaking for himself or the government? Probably because the "articulate and eloquent" description... isn't. "Batshit crazy" would be more accurate. | |
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| said by MaynardKrebs:One man's anti-social behavior is another man's freedom of speech. Similarly, "facism" is dependent upon the perspective of time and how a society's challenges become more (or less) complicated.
For example, the federal Deptartments of Education and Energy would have seemed facist to the founding generation. But, as an agrarian society with little dependence on oil, or threat of global economic competition, there was no need for such centralized, uniform regulation.
Heck, to the founding generation, the creation of the federal government would have looked fascist prior to 1789. They needed 12 years of experience with the relatively anarcho-libertarian Articles of Confederation to evaluate their challenges and willingness to compromise liberty for efficiency (independence at the expense of corporal uniformity).
That's where I think modern, self-styled freedom fighters miss the boat entirely. Relatively speaking (in terms of what they gave up, and what they accepted), the founding generation embraced "big government" and fascism like no other generation since. (Perhaps the Civil War generation embraced a similar relative jump when it destroyed the idea of succession, and gave the federal government the power to enforce the Bill of Rights against state enfringement via the 14th Amendment.).
Anyway, I don't think recent generations have done anything different than the founding generation, expanding government power/efficiency to balance individualism versus society's collective need for "ordered liberty."
If anything, recent generations have done a worse job of it because we have an incessant desire to create *ineffective* government. For example, resistance to National ID is almost a shibboleth of being American. The result? Dozens of national and state IDs. Private companies creating what amounts to a national database, with government being their largest customer. No control by individuals over the information collected about them.
All because a National ID would be "fascist." | |
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Indianapolis, IN | subject I am for one happy that the day when nobody can hide from anybody on the net will be a reality, Once you've had a stalker with a hardon try to ruin your life you will understand. | |
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Nepean, ON | Re: subject I'm going to assume this isn't sarcasm.
If the person is stalking you online and this bothers you and you can't wait for the day where people wouldn't do that out of fear of you knowing their real name, you may want to consider the opposite, with you're real name out there, how easy it will be for them to stalk you in real life (much worse in my view).
There are some "special" people out there. | |
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Indianapolis, IN | Re: subject Defiantly not sarcasm. | |
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| said by moes:I am for one happy that the day when nobody can hide from anybody on the net will be a reality, Once you've had a stalker with a hardon try to ruin your life you will understand. How does someone stalk another on the internet? Why couldn't you abandon your userIDs?
From what little I've seen on teevee, stalking seems to involve people who share everything about themselves on facebook, and won't delete their facebook account when it turns out badly.
I don't understand it. If you created a new Yahoo email account, new DSLR account, etc., how could someone "stalk" you without you revealing too much about yourself on those new accounts? | |
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Indianapolis, IN | Re: subject What happend to me was I had websites registered without privacy enabled and this allowed the person with the hardon to come after me. Now I have wised up and enabled privacy on all my domains (these are new) and changed my user names and crap. | |
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| | They can try.... Well, just means better SSL, vpn's and a few other servises to hide myself. If they are trying to make it easier to track you, it enables criminals the same ability. Some agencies cant get over themselves for the good of the world.
To prevent anti-social purposes? What is this? If you don't fall into the norm you are targeted by the normality police? | |
| | | | Re: They can try.... Your Absolutely Right!!!! You can't define normality because of the very nature of people. Everyone is different so therefore, who's to say what's normal? | |
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| | protocols The protocols available for internet use right now cannot sustain this "end of anonymity" desire at the moment. I can spoof almost anything I want with very little effort.
Even the "Script kiddies" can defeat this one easily.
I just don't see this as a reality until major changes come to the protocols used for internet traffic. | |
| | | | Re: protocols I'll tell you what! Besides people being tech savvy, spoofing this and that, securing this and that! Anonymous OS's are going to proliferate, they already exist. Live OS's certainly help too! | |
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| I don't think he is really wrong but I am not saying it is right
It seems that some sites are now requiring names/numbers to post....seems more social sites are exploding in numbers thus peoples names are being more exposed...etc....
Seems that being anonymous is much less of an option than in the past | |
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| obey the cow god A web is meant for one thing; entrapment.
IPv6 was meant not just for a larger pool of numbers... extrapolate what you will from that.
What is certain is that once power is attained, people seldom relinquish it willingly, or easily.
Enjoy these days while we have them, and remember to love one another. None of this will matter in the end. | |
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Troy, NY | Re: Voyeur World! "You'll be perfectly safe if you just don't speak up or stand out. Shut your mouth, toe the line, keep your head down and accept whatever is given to you."
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| | | | | Re: Voyeur World! That's soooo messed-up!! Completely Un-American and yet I find validity in your statement. To anyone that reads this, exercise your Freedom of Speech and speak out!! Dissent is the greatest form of patriotism!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| | | missing the point You people are completely missing the point here, there is nothing else that a business will respond to besides competition. So if you want to compete against google then pay for a vpn service or a pro proxy service or just chain together some proxies in your browser or even better, use someone else internet connection. The one thing that will wake up the entire country is to take away the internet and all of its different forms of entertainment. When that happens it will be just like when the draft was still around. People will protest in the streets by the thousands until they get their way. Smart greedy people that run everything know this and they know that if you want to change things, you change them a little at the time until one day everything is just like they want it and nobody cares because they are used to it.
I don't think that society is going to let google get away with killing anonymity on the internet but it may take a very long time to see the end of that argument. | |
|  george357Resistance is futilePremium
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Hot Springs, NC | Why not stop it..... .....grow networks like TOR!!!
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| | |  Connecting the dots. . .
The White House Blog
The National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace
Posted by Howard A. Schmidt on June 25, 2010 at 02:00 PM EDT
»www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/···berspace
The government is talking about a Digital Passport.
This coupled with Schmidt's remarks, which he has made several times. (Watch the CNBC doc about Google). And the movement towards IPv6 is a bit worrying to say the least. The time to speak up is almost over. | |
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1 edit | Re: Connecting the dots. . . This wouldn't bother me at all! I was just discussing this with some friends and family, seems alot of people I know are getting tired of forking out hundreds in entertainment $. This may just be the incentive in my circles to unplug. The kids can skip rocks again, screw the stores, internet, mess the man up just stop consuming. | |
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| | Kind of self serving Of course Googleboy wants the end of anonymity, it interferes with his business. One wonders if he views avoiding targeted advertising as an anti-social purpose. Or perhaps as a crime. | |
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Santa Clara, CA
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| If you want to remain anonymous... If you want to remain anonymous, just buy your own ISP. You can get "sloppy" with the records you keep about your own IP addresses. You can even obtain blocks of IPs from other countries just to make (their) life interesting!
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Voyeur World!
It will be great when you employer or some Right Wing Extremists uses your on line comments to get you fired. Back in 2004 the Right Wing Extremists managed to get several people fired that asked politically incorrect questions at Corporatist President George Bush's town hall meetings. That capability will be expanded when everyone must register to use the internet. 