karpodiemHail to The Victors Premium Member join:2008-05-20 Troy, MI 4 edits |
would love to see an expansionto one of the midwest states where Comcast is jettisoning and s/RejectedLand/Greatland Communications is taking over. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionIt's time for Google to expand up north and hit some mid-large sized cities.
Atlanta/Dallas so far seems to be the largest cities thus far. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionActually it's Austin, not Dallas. And it might just be a few Atlanta burbs, not city. BTW, KC metro is 2M-2.4M people depending on how you measure it - not exactly small but not a top 20 metro. So far Atlanta only top 20 metro if it's true. | |
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2015-Jan-27 11:54 am
Re: would love to see an expansionThey will need Big Tenn network alternate channels + CSN CHICAGO + CSN CHICAGO plus HD and CSN plus 2 HD there. | |
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cahiatt
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2015-Jan-27 1:11 pm
Re: would love to see an expansion» fiber.google.com/newcities/They are showing on their site that Atlanta is one of the included cities... Woohoo.... | |
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IF your'e going by population Charlotte is about twice as big Atlanta. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionsaid by drjosh121:IF your'e going by population Charlotte is about twice as big Atlanta. Not the metro, ATL CSA is over 6M. Charlotte and KC are below 3M. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionI see where you're going, but Google fiber is only going to city limits initially in Charlotte and ATL. Charlotte 792,862 ATL 447,841. I heard that they just started issuing fiber all across the county in KC so there's a chance eventually that all the Metro area could get Google, but as of right now Charlotte will be largest of the new areas. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionActually it sounds like they are doing some ATL burbs, not city. But what matters more is the market they enter. GF only announced 2 KC cities at first but now have agreements with most of KC metro burbs. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionThe plans I saw for Charlotte included the entire city limits, 2/3 of the county, for fiber huts, but I guess we will find out at 1pm | |
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Anon
2015-Jan-27 12:21 pm
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Charlotte also has a law that says all cables must go under ground something that Google will run from as they already have. The city also will not cave to Google. Esece when they won't see service for another 5 to 10 years. Hell even Austin is behind on building. Announced over what 2years ago and no sign of a real network??? Even MSOs expand fastet when overbuilding-- aka wide open west. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionI am unfamiliar with that law. I live in the county and most of the cable utilities are run from pole. All of uptown is done by conduit, but once you're five miles from the epicenter of uptown there are poles all over the place. | |
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Re: would love to see an expansionI just heard they green lighted Charlotte for fiber. 50% on poles 50% conduits. | |
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Don't feed the troll. He's a known Google hater, about 75% what he posts seems made up. And he doesn't join the forum, which is questionable.
Turns out he was wrong again. | |
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Good luck to the 4 citiesEr, I don't believe in luck, so sending photon vibes your way from KC. Google Fiber is worth it, for the city in general and increased competition. But be prepared for sloooow kickoff and rollout. It'll be a while before real connections happen. | |
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Re: Good luck to the 4 cities"and increased competition"
Ever notice that Google won't go where there they would have competition? Kinda of a pot calling the kettle black here. They want competition but only if they are going have little to no real competition. | |
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Re: Good luck to the 4 citiesThere are 10 ISPs in KC metro. Nearly all the majors are in the broader KC region (western MO, eastern KS) except VZ. Since Google arrived, TWC bumped to 300M, ATT announced Gigapower, Surewest/CC is now offering Gbit at same price and City of North KC has _free_ Gigabit (muni fiber). And Comcast apparently doesn't enforce the caps.
Seems Google first went where they could touch as many ISPs as they could in a market.
I had TWC and the signal was so poor in my condo building that I couldn't get more than 20/1 even though they offered 50. Building mgmt complained for years but TWC wouldn't do a thing (they own the wiring in building). As soon as we signed contract with Google, TWC shows up unsolicited to upgrade the cabling and allow for 300M.
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said by battleop:Ever notice that Google won't go where there they would have competition? Yeah, because Comcast and AT&T U-Verse aren't any competition in Atlanta. | |
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Re: Good luck to the 4 citiesSorry, I wasn't clear in what I meant by competition. I'm talking about Google isn't too quick to go any place that has 1GB FTTH competition. I.E. You won't see Google headed to Chattanooga any time soon.
Comcast can be competition for Fiber, AT&T on the other hand isn't. Comcast and EPB have done a pretty good job at beating AT&T to death in Chattanooga. The only competitive edge that AT&T has over EPB and Comcast is that they are the only one that will offer a cheap plan compared to the other two. | |
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Re: Good luck to the 4 citiesAh, well the competition I was initially referring to was that GF does impact other ISPs in the market. But yeah, Google doesn't need to go in markets that have Gbit, it helps their overall biz model when any ISP offers a Gbit. But apparently they selected NC even though ATT is already doing Gigapower, so not sure what you mean. | |
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2015-Jan-27 11:35 am
Re: Good luck to the 4 citiesIs it already up or did they just announce it? What city hasn't AT&T announced Gigapower for? Nashvile and Atlanta are on the Gigapower city list too. | |
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Re: Good luck to the 4 citiesIn NC? Yes, there are many who have Gigapower active now. | |
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Re: Good luck to the 4 citiesI agree. Giga power is live in Cary and Durham. There is also a Gig telecom doing business out of wake forest. Ive also "heard" that several rural western areas have gig power, but I have not personally seen them. | |
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"it helps their overall biz model when any ISP offers a Gbit."
That's their real motive. Google Fiber is just Google's way of forcing ISP's hand to move to fiber today instead of progressing as the needs arises. In the end Google just want's faster access to your data so they can cram more advertising down your throat. | |
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2015-Jan-27 11:59 am
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If they come to Atlanta, they compete with AT&T, Comcast and a rather large number of DSL resellers. | |
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Anon
2015-Jan-27 12:43 pm
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And only when laws are changed for them which Charlotte won't do. | |
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SmartAtlanta and Nashville.
Aren't these the two cities monitored by comcast's "data cap?" | |
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Re: Smartsaid by bigballer:Atlanta and Nashville.
Aren't these the two cities monitored by comcast's "data cap?" What bigger reason to is there for Google to set up shop? People I know and talk to around these parts are so tired of Comcrap it isn't even funny. Everyone is so excited about the possibility of Google fiber. Fortunately I'm on TDS fiber, otherwise I'd be forced to use Comcrap, but for Nashvillians, they don't have that choice. Google Fiber could change all that. | |
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Yeah, and if Google indeed announces this, watch the data cap in those cities suddenly be discontinued (albeit probably not right away). | |
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Yes they are, the brilliant bit of it is they are still called test markets so they can drop it in those two markets and still save face. I don't know what Comcast has been doing lately but their monitoring of bandwidth has gotten wonky the last couple of months. Before I was always hitting close to 95+% of my monthly cap but since November I haven't been getting past 70% with no change of my internet habits. | |
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Comcast's network in Nashville has to be the one of their worst markets. We monitor a lot of Comcast circuits around the country for customers and Nashville Comcast circuits send us more Nagios alerts than any other market where we monitor Comcast circuits. | |
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Re: SmartAgreed...... Though my home network is on fiber, I have two Commercial Sites on Comcrap... These two sites are in high availability mode, and I get alerts every day about Comcraps network. If you're monitoring Comcrap using NNM, Nagios, SolarWinds etc, you can expect to have many false positives every day (Blips/Bouncing). Fortunately I only have to deal with 2 Sites on Comcrap.. I couldn't imagine having hundreds etc. God bless those who do because they need it. | |
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Re: SmartMost of the problems we see are 10+ minute outages often hours. I think this month we have seen most sites with 2-3 hours during business hours. We see this both on the Coax Consumer Network and their Metro Fiber network. | |
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YES! I'm hoping they'll mysteriously disappear... | |
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IowaCowboyLost in the Supermarket Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA |
Would love to see it in Springfield MassGive Comcast a run for their money. And help drive up our property values. | |
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2015-Jan-27 9:50 am
@KARL - Charlotte event was moved up a day to today - apparently. | |
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2015-Jan-27 11:44 am
Re: @KARL - Charlotte event was moved up a day to today - apparently.Guess Durham will still be the last on their official invitation if the Charlotte event was moved up. Interesting that this is nothing directly about Chapel Hill.
With Frontier being the LEC and AT&T supposedly building in Durham, this city may have more choice than others if Google is here too. I don't really see AT&T duplicating fiber right next to Frontier though even though they are part of the NCNGN. I don't really see Frontier deploying fiber very fast either though. | |
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2015-Jan-27 10:16 am
Need to get the RSN rights and WTBS is not TBS any moreNeed to get the RSN rights and WTBS is not TBS any more | |
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2015-Jan-27 10:16 am
TallahasseeCome to Tallahassee! You either have Comcast or CenturyLink here. | |
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2015-Jan-27 10:17 am
GAAtlanta yes lets hope!!!!!!!!
Google has the money cox Communications don't lol... | |
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2015-Jan-27 11:10 am
The industry shills won't be happy about this.The MSOs/Telcos have decided that those particular cities should be under served and ignored. How dare Google exploit the market gap they left behind. When the incumbent providers decide that an area shouldn't receive any investment, that means nobody should be able to invest there, not even another corporation let alone the local government. Its the American way! | |
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ke4pym
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2015-Jan-27 12:56 pm
Charlotte Live Stream» www.wsoctv.com/videos/ne ··· 2/vtRgs/Announcement is being streamed live. Banner in the background says "Charlotte - Fiber is coming" | |
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