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Google Delivers Mobile Voice For Android, Blackberry
AT&T, Verizon paying very close attention...
by Karl Bode Wednesday 15-Jul-2009 tags: competition · business · alternatives · VoIP
Google's voice ambitions already have telecom operators watching the search giant carefully, and now Google is poised to expand their reach into voice further with the release of a new Google Voice mobile application. According to a post over at the Google blog, the new application will soon be made available for Blackberry and Android users, allowing them to make calls directly from their phones (obviously you'll need a Google Voice account first, which remain in limited supply). Google's Vincent Paquet explains what's different:

Previously, to place a call using Google Voice, you had to dial your own Google Voice number from your cell phone or use the Quick Call button online. With this new mobile app, you can make calls and send SMS messages with your Google Voice number directly from your mobile phone. The app is fully integrated with each phone’s contacts, so you can call via Google Voice straight from your address book.

Users receiving calls (or texts) from you while you're using this application will see your Google Voice number instead of your mobile phone number. As usual, Google has offered up a video that also explores the new service in more detail. Google says they're currently working with Apple to eventually bring the functionality to the iPhone as well.

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baineschile
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So...

I have to use my cell phone to download an application....so I can make a call?

Doesnt make any sense to me.

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Re: So...

No, so you can mask your cell number. I use my GV number as my office number, so if I want to call a client and not from my cell number, but from my cell phone, I can use my GV app to make the call to mask my number, make intl calls, etc.
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Think about it like this, those of us with T-Mobile's myFaves or Verizon's friends and family can make the GV number a "Friend". If you route all calls (inbound and outbound) through your GV number, like this app and the ones before it do, you don't use ANY minutes what-so-ever. When you dial out, GV calls your phone using the GV number you picked and when you pick up, the call continues as usual. The person picking up sees your GV number on the caller ID, and you're not using any minutes. (At least for people not on AT&T or Sprint).

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Re: So...

Now that's a good idea.
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Sprint has a package call Pick3. If you call Sprint ask for the retention department and state I would not cancel if there were 3-5 numbers I could call unlimted. They will add the numbers and you are on your way. I did it last month and now under my minutes.YES
GIve it a try.
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Re: So...

said by tphillips:

Sprint has a package call Pick3. If you call Sprint ask for the retention department and state I would not cancel if there were 3-5 numbers I could call unlimted. They will add the numbers and you are on your way. I did it last month and now under my minutes.YES
GIve it a try.
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Already an android app for this

There is already a 3rd-party android app for this that I use regularly; it's quite a useful feature! I think the app is called "gv"

This service does NOT use voip for the traffic; you either initiate the call via the network connection whereby the google voice service calls you back and then calls the number, or by dialing in and then entering the number you want to call.

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Re: Already an android app for this

yesit started out as g1 central then they updtedthe app and now call it gv. I also have been using it on my g1 for months and its worked great for calls, I havent had to much luck with the sms feature

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So what is the major benefit to this for a mobile phone?

It sounds like you're still using airtime minutes to make calls, so the only obvious advantage is that the person you're calling won't see your cell number. But most providers allow you to block your caller ID from a cell phone, so this feature isn't anything new.

Am I missing something else here?
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Re: Already an android app for this

said by NOVA_Guy:

So what is the major benefit to this for a mobile phone?

It sounds like you're still using airtime minutes to make calls, so the only obvious advantage is that the person you're calling won't see your cell number. But most providers allow you to block your caller ID from a cell phone, so this feature isn't anything new.

Am I missing something else here?
It doesn't use airtime minutes, it either deducts from your data plan or you connect via a wifi connection, in which case you pay nothing but the bill you get from your ISP. Remember, T-mobile's "unlimited" data plan has a 10 GB monthly cap.

I don't really have a use for this, as I have unlimited voice. The only real use I would have is if I were in a dead-zone for voice and data, but had a wifi network I could connect to.

Edit: minor spelling error

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Re: Already an android app for this

you do use airtime minutes. its not voip. i've been using this application for at least 2 months.

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Re: Already an android app for this

When it comes down to it, it is in fact VoIP... They use Level3 to process the calls, which routes them over IP... So VoIP, but not at your phone level.

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It does not use data. It uses the airtime. There is an existing third party app call gvdailer that does the same. The advantage is that it let you keep your cell # private and you can use the better filtering options that

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The "COOL" parts of google voice

1. if you block someone lets say a ex girlfriend who just wont stop calling while with your new girlfriend the block feature when enabled gives a "where sorry the number you have dialed is not in service.. please hang up and try again" message

2. With the app your text goes threw the internet .. so yeah you can take off your SMS plan if u have one. oh and also voice.google.com (( automatically brings you to the mobile version at least on my G1 it does using the reg browser and Opera mini) you can text threw there

3. For me this is pretty awesome.. is when i don't feel like typing on my phone because I'm on the computer i just open google voice browser online.. and reply back using my computer.

4. The cheap international calls probably one of the cheapest your going to get.

5. If you have T-mobile or Verizon now you can put the number on your faves and have unlimited calling to who ever

6. it saves all messages . to me which is good because that's a backup of all my messages.

7. and to me i think is the greatest feature of all .. because when they call your google number of course since it goes threw google. if you get a missed call and you have no service.. when you go online or threw the app . you can see all the missed calls you had when you had no service.

8. The do not disturb feature which automatically sends all calls to voice mail is a good feature to have. your phone never rings not even once. and you can of course view who called you online or via the app

9. You can set up a time when you don't want to receive calls lets say in the middle of the night ! when you quite just don't care that your friend bob got kicked out his house for the 100th time because he was drunk. you can set it up so you won't receive calls from 12am to 7am

10. This is a cool feature. the record feature .. when your on the line you can press 4 to record the conversation and would be stored online forever. so when your" friend" borrows money you can record the conversation so you have proof he borrowed and and the time he said he would pay you back

that to me are 10 features i don't believe most voice carriers have and there all useful at one point in time or another

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Re: Already an android app for this

said by GV USER :

5. If you have T-mobile or Verizon now you can put the number on your faves and have unlimited calling to who ever
If you do this you are violating your T-Mobile terms of service. (I don't know about verizon)

said by »www.t-mobile.com/templates/gener···sLrnDemo :

*Your five numbers must be US domestic numbers and must not include 411, voicemail, toll-free, 900, calling card, and customers' own numbers; and single numbers allowing access to 500 or more persons.
(emphasis is mine.)

So if you do this, you are violating at least TWO aspects of what you agreed to when you got service.

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Re: Already an android app for this

When it comes down to it, the grandcentral number is not yours, you never gain a legal right to it like you do a traditional phone number. Because of this, the final item is the one that comes in to play, making it okay, as long as you don't use Google Voice with over 500 persons, or people, depending on what you feel like calling them.

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Re: Already an android app for this

said by EvelKub:

the final item is the one that comes in to play, making it okay, as long as you don't use Google Voice with over 500 persons, or people, depending on what you feel like calling them.
Regardless of whether or not you actually use the google voice service to contact 500 different people or not, it still provides access to them, which is how the terms are worded
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said by nklb:

said by GV USER :

5. If you have T-mobile or Verizon now you can put the number on your faves and have unlimited calling to who ever
If you do this you are violating your T-Mobile terms of service. (I don't know about verizon)

said by »www.t-mobile.com/templates/gener···sLrnDemo :

*Your five numbers must be US domestic numbers and must not include 411, voicemail, toll-free, 900, calling card, and customers' own numbers; and single numbers allowing access to 500 or more persons.
(emphasis is mine.)

So if you do this, you are violating at least TWO aspects of what you agreed to when you got service.
I think that "customers' own numbers" refers to other phone numbers on the same family plan. So you couldn't use MyFaves slots in lieu of purchasing the "free mobile to mobile minutes" option. There was a time when T-Mobile sold some family plans that didn't have it, while other plans did. That meant that on plans without it, calling another phone on the same family plan meant double minute usage.

However, many if not most of the family plans do include mobile-to-mobile minutes so you wouldn't have to use MyFaves slots for the other numbers anyway.
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Big deal. Are you policy maker and enforcer at TMO?

Get a life.

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It is through, not threw.

I threw up last night, I threw out the first pitch but I went through Google Voice.

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said by NOVA_Guy:

So what is the major benefit to this for a mobile phone?

It sounds like you're still using airtime minutes to make calls, so the only obvious advantage is that the person you're calling won't see your cell number. But most providers allow you to block your caller ID from a cell phone, so this feature isn't anything new.

Am I missing something else here?
It would use airtime minutes unlike what some are saying here. SO I agree with you, there is no big benefit unless you can use it to make cheaper international calls or want to hide your cellphone number from those you are calling.
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said by Romney2012:

It would use airtime minutes unlike what some are saying here. SO I agree with you, there is no big benefit unless you can use it to make cheaper international calls or want to hide your cellphone number from those you are calling.
I don't think you really understand the service. There are LOTS of benefits aside from hiding your number. The benefits relate to call management:

you can send callers to voicemail and listen in while they are leaving their message;
you can switch phones (cell to landline or vice versa) in mid-call;
voicemails are transcribed and emailed to you;
friends and family only have one number to remember;
unlimited call blocking (as opposed to just 10 or 25 numbers like on most cell and landline phones;
free text messaging;
and the list goes on and on...

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Re: Already an android app for this

said by JasonX:

said by Romney2012:

It would use airtime minutes unlike what some are saying here. SO I agree with you, there is no big benefit unless you can use it to make cheaper international calls or want to hide your cellphone number from those you are calling.
I don't think you really understand the service. There are LOTS of benefits aside from hiding your number. The benefits relate to call management:

you can send callers to voicemail and listen in while they are leaving their message;
you can switch phones (cell to landline or vice versa) in mid-call;
voicemails are transcribed and emailed to you;
friends and family only have one number to remember;
unlimited call blocking (as opposed to just 10 or 25 numbers like on most cell and landline phones;
free text messaging;
and the list goes on and on...
Those are benefits of the Google Voice service overall & NOT just the benefits of CALLING FROM a cellphone. The subject being discussed in this thread was what does calling from the cellphone add to the mix.

I am well aware of the benefits of Google Voice, as I use most of them.
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Rec'd my invite

I received my google voice invite yesterday. I set up my account but I'm going to delay giving out my google voice number until Verizon releases an Android phone (they say within the next six months) or when google gives you the ability to port your existing number (which google has said is in the works). I'm not thrilled to call my gv # and then input the number I want to call so my gv# shows up as the caller ID. I know you can set up your contacts to dial your gv# first, pause, enter 2, pause, and then the number, but who wants to do that for all their contacts?

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Re: Rec'd my invite

When did you ask for a GV account? I applied last month and nothing yet. Once I get it for my iPhone, I will be able to down-grade my AT&T account to the lowest minutes, and shed the $5.00 SMS thievery, and use GV for most of my cell/SMS

How long did you wait?
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Re: Rec'd my invite

GV is not a phone service. You still need a phone to forward your calls, and you still need cell phone minutes to pick up a call on your cell phone. Also, if you want your SMS forwarded, or SMS alerts when you get voicemails, you're going to want to keep your SMS plan.

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Hmmmmm I thought this was essentially a VOIP end-run around the basic plans. Where I can basically make GV calls via Wifi/3g and avoid the long minutes while chatting with GF for hours. Receiving a call, would mean saying "hold on, I will call you back" and then use GV.

Also I thought getting SMS would happen via VOIP/Wifi/3g, and not use the AT&T 200 SMS for $5.00 rip-off. Perhaps I am looking for too much, but I sure would love to lower my AT&T bills from the minimum $59.00/Mo I use up now. BTW, my iPhone is the only phone I have, I discontinued my POTS, and went with $19.99/Mo Dry Loop DSL with VZ. That in itself saved a bundle.

Perhaps I am I totally missing the point here?

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said by watice:

GV is not a phone service. You still need a phone to forward your calls, and you still need cell phone minutes to pick up a call on your cell phone. Also, if you want your SMS forwarded, or SMS alerts when you get voicemails, you're going to want to keep your SMS plan.
You can use their free SMS service if you use the Google Voice mobile app.
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Re: Rec'd my invite

It'd be worth it just to have an alternative to texting plan extortion.

AIM works to some extent, but having an actual phone number that other people can put in their address books and treat like any other text recipient would be wonderful.
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said by TamaraB:

When did you ask for a GV account? I applied last month and nothing yet.
I think most of us who have it signed up back when it was "GrandCentral" and every account came with 10 free invites. There are no more included invites anymore, I am afraid.
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said by nklb:

... I think most of us who have it signed up back when it was "GrandCentral" ...
Yeah, I read about this and also read that Google finally opened GV up to others who were not from GrandCentral.

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I signed up for GV about three or four months ago and got my invite last week.
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i signed up around march of this year

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nice...

I've been using Google Voice for about a week or so now. The interface was really simple to use, and felt very similar to Gmail. I just downloaded the app for my BB today, so I will have to mess around with it for a few more days to see how much I really like it.
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App for iPhone already exists just not googles

I have been using this on my iPhone »www.seankovacs.com/index.php/gv-mobile/ and it works great. Much cheaper to make international calls main thing I use it for on my cell phone.

This app rings the GV account rings your cell and once you pick up it dials the number you want.

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Google "drops" Mobile Voice?

Doesn't sound like they're dropping it at all. Dropping it sounds like cancelling, giving up, not-going-to-do-it.

Headline doesn't seem to fit the story.

Edit: I see it's been changed.

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Re: Google "drops" Mobile Voice?

That was my initial interpretation too.

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Me three. I read earlier on CrackBerry about this new Google Voice app, only to see that Google was apparently dropping it when I came over here.

I would have otherwise ignored this news story, so perhaps Karl is a marketing genius?

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Release

Sign into your Google Voice Acct.....these apps are already released. Very nice interface.
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Official vs Unofficial

I like the official Google Voice app as it is very sleek and works well with my android phone.

Howver, the GV for Google Voice app has one advantage. Every call made is sent to your google number. What i did was add the google number to my 5 Faves, so all of my outgoing calls no longer use minutes. I don't think this will make T-Mobile happy

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Re: Official vs Unofficial

said by MightyPez:

I like the official Google Voice app as it is very sleek and works well with my android phone.

Howver, the GV for Google Voice app has one advantage. Every call made is sent to your google number. What i did was add the google number to my 5 Faves, so all of my outgoing calls no longer use minutes. I don't think this will make T-Mobile happy
If anything, it makes T-Mobile happy.

You don't use any of the minutes you paid for and go 100% on the myFaves.
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Re: Official vs Unofficial

Until I decide that since I'm using less than 300 minutes, I can downgrade my plan and spend less money
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Re: Official vs Unofficial

Less than or more than? I have been using GV (the app) since I switched to T-Mo. I set up my Google Voice number as my one and only fave. Last month I used almost 500 minutes, and 7 of them were direct calls, the balance routed through Google Voice.

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Outstanding as a Business Tool

I've been using GV dating back to the days when it was still called Grand Central. It's a very nice feature to be able to link any phone with the GV # and spec the timeframe during which you want callers to be able to ring through to that line. This way you don't have to give out any #s you'd prefer not to because even when Caller ID is blocked, some recipients do not accept blocked calls. The web interface is also a very convenient way to view/manage voicemail, especially the transcript feature. The best part about GV is that it's FREE. F*ck the telcos.

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Google Apps...

Doesn't work for people that signed up for Google Voice with their Google Apps for Domains accounts. The G1 app is forcing me to try to log in with a Gmail account, which I didn't use for GV...
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voicemail to text feature

I don't live on my phone like some people, but I can see the benefits of Google Voice. You can give out the number to untrusted sources, and filter everything off your whitelist to voicemail. You don't need to waste time dialing voicemail, simply read the transcripts.

The voice to text does make mistakes, but you get a pretty good idea of what's being said. There's a neat karaoke feature where you play the voicemail, and it highlights each word as it's spoken. Being able to search old voicemails might be handy.

It can't hurt having another phone number either. The international rates are cheap. Google Voice is a Skype-killer for me, I won't be renewing my Skype-In number or buying anymore minutes. I'll see how it goes on my next trip.

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All I want to know is.......

I have a few Google voice accounts and just got 3 invites tonight so they are rolling them out.
But for those of you who have the service so far......

Isn't the Google Voice mail lady actually Katie Couric's Voice?
Listen closely to it - she pronounces certain words exactly like Couric.

I posted this once before but no one bit onto it.
Anyone agree or does someone have actual confirmation that she IS THE voice.....

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What about WINMO?

So I got my invite the other day and it looks like a cool service too bad theres no freakin app to use it on windows mobile!!??@@

Seems like a pretty large user base to ignore but whatever..

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Blackberry Tour

Now has anyone been able to get this working on the Blackberry Tour 9630?

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I downloaded it last night. I can make calls, listen to voice mails, send SMS. So far so good.

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Someone broke it.

I have not been able to get the app. I have tried accessing it from both my BB and desktop, and no luck so far.
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This only affect international calls

The call is still done over the wireless dial tone, so it still uses your minutes. The only time it can bypass the carriers is for international calls.
The only benefit this has to the user is that the phone number that shows up on the receiving end is your Google voice number. You also get to use your Google contacts, so that is the other benefit.
I don't think there is any big reason for the wireless carriers to get upset.
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Re: This only affect international calls

Nope, doesn't use your minutes because when you initiate the call GV dials both your cell phone and the person you are calling FROM your GV number. If you have your GV number set up as a FAV then the call doesn't use any of your minutes.

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Re: This only affect international calls

So you are saying that if someone in your Fav list on T-Mobile calls you, then it doesn't use your minutes?
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Re: This only affect international calls

That's correct. Calls to/from Favs use no minutes. Same with Verizon.

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Re: This only affect international calls

Thanks for the info.

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