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| Re: WHAT? "It is astounding that Google, whose corporate philosophy is ‘don’t be evil’ would enable evil by cooperating with China’s censorship policies just to make a buck" It is astounding that the Republicans, whose official philosophy is "don't be evil" would enable evil by cooperating with China just to make a buck.
Didn't the pot just call the kettle black?
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| Re: WHAT? said by ronpin  :"It is astounding that Google, whose corporate philosophy is ‘don’t be evil’ would enable evil by cooperating with China’s censorship policies just to make a buck" It is astounding that the Republicans, whose official philosophy is "don't be evil" would enable evil by cooperating with China just to make a buck. Didn't the pot just call the kettle black? Yup | |
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| said by ronpin :"It is astounding that Google, whose corporate philosophy is ‘don’t be evil’ would enable evil by cooperating with China’s censorship policies just to make a buck" It is astounding that the Republicans, whose official philosophy is "don't be evil" would enable evil by cooperating with China just to make a buck. Didn't the pot just call the kettle black? I'm assuming your comment is tongue-in-cheek, so this isn't directed at you. But for those who are just figuring this out, I'm amazed that people are just now starting to see the hypocrisy of the Republican "Christian" party. This isn't new, and it's been bolstered by the cowboy-in-chief and his criminal former Halliburton CEO Dick "no-bid kickback" Cheney. | |
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| Re: WHAT? Maybe we should leave it to certain Democrats. They could sell our nuclear secrets to the Chinese again or why not just sell out the whole country from under us while they are at it. On the other front they could leave our borders wide open so we can support the whole world with free health care. Wait don't let me forget about how Osama Bin Laden agrees with other Democrats that we should pull out of the war and run away like freaking little babies. Now that we are pointing fingers at each other. Wake up and stop toking up: »http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mj015.htm | |
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| said by shashinka : On the other front they could leave our borders wide open so we can support the whole world with free health care. You mean like this??
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| Re: WHAT? No shit. I could have told you that without reading all of those surverys. I guess you don't understand. All the illegals here are pulling us taxpayers down. Maybe you like paying for useless services. I tend to keep my money for my family not someone elses. If I want to support others I do it through donations. Maybe you like socialism? How about I take your hard earned income and just give it to others who didn't work for it? I suggest you move out of the country and go to Russia if you enjoy that. Otherwise lets not flush the country down the drain. | |
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| Re: WHAT? FUCK Republicans & Democrats, both political parties are anti- middle class, therefore, anti-American. If you are poor and don't want to work for a living, or are a immigrant(non-white) wanting a free start in a business, vote a staight Democrat ticket, it's in your best interests. If you had rich relatives that left $millions$ to you, or own a business and don't want to pay your employees a living wage and feel that what little you HAVE to pay them is way too much, the G.O.P. is the obvious choice. For the 75% minority left that makes up the middle, socio-economic class, well, no political party represents you. That's what you get for allowing these criminals to hijack our country through non participation in the electorial process.Now, just give us your money and first born son, and shut the fuck up. | |
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| Ur retarded. What about all the no-bid contracts that Halliburton had when President Clinton was Commander in Chief, hmm? I guess your man Cheney even controlled the Clinton White House.
Does it even factor into your whack-o left wing conspiracy theories that perhaps there are no other companies capable of providing logistical support on such a massive scale? Or that in times of crisis, the normal bidding process just takes too long (think of the statutory authority the President has for suspending minimum contract bids [Davis-Bacon, a racist law, btw] in the wake of natural disasters)?
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| said by nonner9 :That's why people go into business... get over it. If you don't care about money, can I have yours? Nonner, that was mearly a statement. I agree, that's why they are in business. It's all about the money. Im not arguing that. | |
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| said by hopeflicker :It's all about the money. It's all about the law. If Google doesn't want its sites blocked by the Chinese government then it must operate within the laws of China just like every other company that operates in/with China does. And just like every business that operates in the US operates within US laws... maybe the Congressman should be worrying about those companies in the US not operating within US Laws.
As for China's policies, they are the business of the Chinese people, not Google or Corporate USA.
Considering this country not only buys from China but borrows from China, the Congressman's statements are not only absurd but hypocritical as well!
This whole issue is not new and is only being raised as payback for Google exercising its legal right to challenge the recent subpoena of its data. I'm no fan off big business but don't let the politicians get away with this nonsense by propagating this crap any further.
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| Re: WHAT? said by sadowski :It's all about the law. If Google doesn't want its sites blocked by the Chinese government then it must operate within the laws of China just like every other company that operates in/with China does. And just like every business that operates in the US operates within US laws... maybe the Congressman should be worrying about those companies in the US not operating within US Laws. You are right. Google isn't some super ethical corporation like some keep saying. And they are not some evil corporation either. They are just another business out to make a profit. And I see no problem with Google doing business in China and following their laws.
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| Re: WHAT? I doubt many people love what happened with Google. The problem is that China is the world's emerging power and one of the largest markets in the world.
If the Vanatu Islands adopted screwy rules concerning Internet, it is easy to stand on your principles. Giving up China is a completely different matter. | |
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| Agreed. If they didn't abide by the rules, they'd be blocked altogether and what good would that do? There isn't really any alternative except to not operate in China and that's not really a true option.
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| Re: WHAT? said by Viper007Bond :Agreed. If they didn't abide by the rules, they'd be blocked altogether and what good would that do? There isn't really any alternative except to not operate in China and that's not really a true option. Correct because the other search engines have agreed to operate within the Chinese law as well. eBay won't sell Nazi stuff in Germany and in several other European countries. It's common practise.
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| Thousands of other countries are doing business in China to take advantage of their lack of labor laws and lack of any other law to make sure businesses are ethical. What makes google different when they do business in China?
On the other hand I would have had a lot of respect for google had they stood up to China, but it probably would have resulted in Google being blacklisted too.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America Amen!
Odd that a country that embraces capitalism can't see Google's position in that regard. And I'm willing to bet this so called congressman has GWB's hand up his backside.
Not a rumble would have been heard if Google wasn't standing up to the .gov on the search results issue.
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| said by Bitey :Google is the least of our worries. And there's nothing more destructive than a Republican with a grudge. Bullshit. Limiting that statement to "Republicans" is nothing more than inflammatory. Washington DC is an equal opportunity scam with dishonest agendas on both sides of the political spectrum.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by yock :said by Bitey :Google is the least of our worries. And there's nothing more destructive than a Republican with a grudge. Bullshit. Limiting that statement to "Republicans" is nothing more than inflammatory. Washington DC is an equal opportunity scam with dishonest agendas on both sides of the political spectrum. That's true, but over the last few years we've seen some spectacular Grudgework. Like outing Valerie Plame. | |
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by Bitey :That's true, but over the last few years we've seen some spectacular Grudgework. Like outing Valerie Plame. Wrong. No one in the White House outed Valerie Plame. You can go read Patrick Fitzgerald's own report and replay the press conference he gave when he charged Scooter Libby with Obstruction of Justice and Lying to the FBI. Fitzgerald said straight out no one was being charged with outing Valerie Plame because there was no evidence to support that anyone under investigation had outed her.
Besides, if the reporters Libby had talked to already knew Plame was working for the CIA, then she was already "out." You can't out someone who's already out.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America Well I'm not going to argue with a true believer.
They've attacked enough of their former staffers, Plame is just one of many cases where there the backlash is obvious and purposeful. And yes, of course, nobody can prove anything about anybody as usual. A scapegoat or whipping boy is always waiting in the wings to take the heat.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by Bitey :It's amazing to me that anyone can support any president we've ever had, or any administration, but especially this one. Comments like these are what maintain the divide between our two ideologies. It isn't enough for you to challenge the current paradigm, you have to slap people in the face if they don't agree with you.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America That's not a slap. It's simply my honest opinion that all of our presidents have been liars and murderers and underhanded creeps. It's almost impossible to be cynical enough to keep up with 'em.
I'm sorry if that bothered you, I didn't mean it to be a slap. I can be really really insulting when I want to be, so if I slapped you in the face, you'd know it. | |
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Buffalo, NY | Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America "That's not a slap. It's simply my honest opinion that all of our presidents have been liars and murderers and underhanded creeps. It's almost impossible to be cynical enough to keep up with 'em."
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concentration camps by the end of the first week.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by Bitey :No way. I'd be throwing the conservatives into concentration camps by the end of the first week. That sounds chillingly similar to what the late flaming liberal president FDR did...
I always wonder if I will ever live to see a tolerant liberal. Somehow I don't think I will.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by pnh102 :said by Bitey :No way. I'd be throwing the conservatives into concentration camps by the end of the first week. That sounds chillingly similar to what the late flaming liberal president FDR did... I always wonder if I will ever live to see a tolerant liberal. Somehow I don't think I will. I wonder if I'll ever live to see
a conservative with a sense of humor.
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It's like the Martha Stewart case. Stewart was being investigated for insider trading but not charged with that crime. Instead went to jail for lying to the investigators about insider trading. The fact that she went to jail for the latter crime doesn't mean she was guilty of the original crime.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by oliphant :Shhhh...logic and truth is Kryptonite to them. Thanks for being a dick about it. That's cool.
I know, I know.
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| said by oliphant :Shhhh...logic and truth is Kryptonite to them. This whole exchange reminds of that clip of Howard Dean on the Today Show where he insists that the Democrats took no money from Jack Abramoff even though he was confronted with irrefutable proof that this was not true. That's insanity!
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Google is the least of our worries.
And there's nothing more destructive than a Republican with a grudge."
Typical liberal reaction. Why let facts ruin your propaganda? I live in Ocean County, NJ, Chris Smith is a congressman who represents the northern part of Ocean County. He has always been strong on human rights, especially in China and Africa. He was removed from his chairmanship of a powerful house committee because he refused to follow the party line. Get your facts, before you comment.
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| Re: When it comes to China's dealings with America said by actor90 :Get your facts, before you comment. I'm sorry if my generalization didn't take into account every single republican who ever lived. | |
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| I have no position, what's the issue? Any company doing business in another country must follow the laws of that country. If the laws violate human rights, then this is a political issue, not a business issue.
Look around you, I'm almost 100% sure that something you see was made in China. I would almost bet that 99.99% of the USA population uses or has used an item which was imported from China.
If we are going to go after a business for doing business in China, why not go after consumers of all imports from China. After all, without the consumers buying products, there would be no market in China. Hence, when you buy something, part of the profits will be taken from the Chinese gov't and used.
If people truly care about people in China, then they should not just stop at persecuting businesses, they should themselves boycott any product "Made in China".
Personally, I don't care. If China is oppressive, then it's a political issue, but maybe someone will change my mind... | |
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| Hmmmm.... It's getting to be election time.....you can expect this from both parties......Kind of takes your mind off the real $hit that is happening or tries to.....If all these countries were so bad, logic would/should dictate that we don't deal with them, except in diplomatic ways....:D:D:D
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cdru
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| Here's an idea Congress: Mind your own business Great. Now we have another round of Congressional hearings on an issue that has absolutely zero impact on anything in the United States. I'm glad we are paying our Congress Critters to run everything for us.
Google is a company. They can do business with whom ever they please. If you don't like the companies practices, tough. Don't buy their stock.
If Google offered a censored version of their search engine that filtered out all the sex, violence, drugs, etc pages, Congress would be applauding it saying how great it was for the family. Yet when they perform the same censoring for a different set of topics, it's now suddenly so evil and against human rights.
Google had a choice to make: They could either "become evil" and censor search results and in the process pick up a contract in China, or they could keep the philosophy of "don't be evil", lose the contract, and let their competition get it.
I don't approve of the censorship China imposes on their internet feeds. But I also accept it's their sovereign right to do so. Guess what folks, not every country has the same rights as those of us in the US have. (Even those rights we are suppose to have seem not to matter thank you very much Mr. President but that's for another rant).
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| Re: Here's an idea Congress: Mind your own busines NPR reported yesterday that MSN and Yahoo when to China and agreed to censor material the government didn't like first.
Singling Google out seems a bit unfair.
In the NPR report a Google rep said that Google in China is better than the other more limited search options that are already there. That's probably true.
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Google is a company. They can do business with whom ever they please. If you don't like the companies practices, tough. Don't buy their stock.
I see now, Google is a company and can do whatever it wants! If a company takes your children and works them to death, then your righteous response should be to not buy their stock.
Fortunately, we live in something called a democracy, and we can elect leaders to pass laws to limit this sort of nonsense, leaders with a little more spine when it comes to "sovereign rights." | |
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| Re: Here's an idea Congress: Mind your own busines said by rennon :
I see now, Google is a company and can do whatever it wants! If a company takes your children and works them to death, then your righteous response should be to not buy their stock. I knew that as soon as I wrote that someone would take it to an extreme. I'm not saying Google can break laws, force slavery, under-aged workers, etc. Nor has anyone accused Google of doing such things. Even if you want to presume that China is currently guilty of child and/or forced labor (which I can't say one way or another for sure), it would be China that is guilty of that, not Google. Google is just doing business with China. Did you complain the same way when Verizon purchased MCI, which was guilty of cooking their books?
Fortunately, we live in something called a democracy, Better go back to your high school government class. We don't live in a democracy, we live in a federal republic.
and we can elect leaders to pass laws to limit this sort of nonsense, leaders with a little more spine when it comes to "sovereign rights." If the US wants to pass such laws, it's within their power to do so. However it must be universally applied and not just limited to trade that allows us to sleep better at night. If Google is going to be blocked due to "rights violations" China imposes on it's citizens, then other technology firms, such as Microsoft, should also be blocked from doing business with them as well. And that isn't going to happen.
And if the US ever was to pass such a law, we would also have to deal with the repercussions of literally billions of dollars of potential exports to China going elsewhere...other places that don't have quite such a superiority complex.
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| Re: Here's an idea Congress: Mind your own busines said by cdru :Even if you want to presume that China is currently guilty of child and/or forced labor (which I can't say one way or another for sure), it would be China that is guilty of that, not Google. Google is just doing business with China. Wow. I would be ashamed to claim that viewpoint in public. "I'm not the one that starved kids in sweatshops. I just bought and sold the toys they made while they starved." Don't you see the total lack of integrity in that? | |
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| Re: Here's an idea Congress: Mind your own busines said by Talis :Wow. I would be ashamed to claim that viewpoint in public. "I'm not the one that starved kids in sweatshops. I just bought and sold the toys they made while they starved." Don't you see the total lack of integrity in that? The circumstances are different between your example and what Google is doing. If Google manufactured a product in China and in the process starved kids in sweatshops, then you would have a point. But Google isn't making anything in China. The are providing a service to China.
I'm not passing judgement on what Google is doing. If a company wants to stick to their principals and turn down the business, good for them. Ideally I probably would have liked to see something different then what happened, but I can't change that. All my original post was trying to say is that we don't need another volley of congressional hearings to investigate something that thousands of business are currently doing already withing issue.
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Translated into English: "According to the local law laws and regulations and the policy, the part searches the result not to demonstrate."
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| Re: Baidu anyone I have never been but I know that the country is not evil, it is the government. I am not saying the government is evil they are just communist, and communism is government control and as we know government does very few things well.
Communism "A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people."
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| Re: Baidu anyone said by czar99 :I have never been but I know that the country is not evil, it is the government. I am not saying the government is evil they are just communist, and communism is government control and as we know government does very few things well. Communism "A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people." We know in communism a very few hold the power and very little is "equally shared". Now you will understand how much you're being brainwash by your Government and news media. The poster above is very correct, no form of government is good. They will enslave you if you let them like the movie star wars, the empire wants to use you in their world conquest. Peace is not an option, war is peace for them costing you your life if you are a fool to join them. Our lack of responsibility as an individual is what cause all the bad things to happen. That's like letting a dog lose in the neighbor and not care about it but you know it's your dog. Without you to control, it will bite anyone and you get the blame since it belongs to you. Let me ask, do government represent the people or the few that is controlling them on a string like a puppet?
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| It is about running a business Google has share holders to take care of if you expect to do business in another country then you have to follow the laws of that country. Google can not ignore such a big market. What China does with their people is China's business. Autocratic forms of Government is what China as had for several thousand years, War lords, Emperors, Communist strong men it is all the same by a different name. The Communist leadership in China has a dragon by the tail and if we are patient and let things take there course then perhaps things will change to our liking, in the meantime just sit back a marvel at the economic giant China is becoming.
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join:2000-12-01
Chantilly, VA | It is so obvious that Google is run by librals How else can you explain, collaborating with Chinese Communists while at the same time going out of the way not to collaborate with US govt to catch terrorists...hmmmm | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Re: It is so obvious that Google is run by librals said by Sumeet :How else can you explain, collaborating with Chinese Communists while at the same time going out of the way not to collaborate with US govt to catch terrorists...hmmmm Makes sense to me...
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join:2002-10-15
Philadelphia, PA
| Re: It is so obvious that Google is run by librals Actually, I would say this shows they're capitalists first.
The government is not looking for terrorists on google, they're fishing for data to prove that child porn is findable by google - to help enact an internet law that was deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Re: It is so obvious that Google is run by librals said by petecellar :The government is not looking for terrorists on google, they're fishing for data to prove that child porn is findable by google - to help enact an internet law that was deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court. The irony of that being that the law in question was signed by Bill Clinton.
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join:2002-10-15
Philadelphia, PA | Re: It is so obvious that Google is run by librals Where is the irony there?
That's refrain from making party-based statements. They both have individuals making bad decisions for nefarious purposes.
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | Money or Moral? Simple money.. | |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| Re: Money or Moral? said by MysticGogeta :Simple money.. So which is the moral choice: prevent China from censoring, or don't offer content at all? | |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | they call China evil but keep borrowing from them if our govt is so concerned about kidde porn on google they should ask them to block it like china do with its issues | |
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golgoj4
join:2005-10-19
Los Angeles, CA
| Re: they call China evil Proof again republicans are morons. Google is now responsible for spreading democracy and creating instability in other countries? No, sorry kids Google is a BUISNESS not a State. Why is this even a topic? So now we have to have an argument about every American buisness that does buisness in China because they support the Chinese by adhering to their laws?
jeez people, even you repubs are generally smarter than this... | |
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join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ | Re: they call China evil Heck at least it is google going to China. Could be China copies google calls it something else and exports it to the US like everything else they export. | |
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peerimpact
join:2005-11-07
Londonderry, VT
| Bussiness as usual. Google also block search results for Neo-Nazi sites in France and Germany to comply with those countries Laws .
China also has its government firewall .
Google also certain block search results in Saudi Arabia to comply with their laws .
They block certain sites related to terrorism and child porn and they comply with DCMA requests from copyright holders. in the USA.
In Australia they are supposed to block sites that promote online gambling to Aussies to comply their e-gambling laws.
Nothing new here just a different country and laws | |
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zabes63
join:2003-04-05
Batavia, IL
| So let me get this straight.... Corporate America off shoring what's left of this country's manufacturing base to work with an oppressed workforce at the detriment of our tax base and GNP = not a problem.
One company altering a search engine to conform with the laws of a sovereign nation at virtually no impact as to the US economy = the end of the world as we know it. | |
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