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Google, Facebook Take Heat For Violating Neutrality Overseas

While Facebook and Google are still often referred to as "net neutrality supporters" here in the States, they were largely quiet during the latest round in the ongoing fight. That's in part because Google helped AT&T co-write the 2010 rules and was quite pleased that they contained ample loopholes, and given they didn't cover wireless, wouldn't impact Google's Android ambitions.

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Both Google and Facebook also have a lot invested in zero rated apps (see Facebook Zero and Google Free Zone) and ensuring net neutrality rules don't prohibit them.

Such programs, more popular overseas, usually involve customers getting free, walled-garden access to a select number of content and services. Google and Facebooks efforts are framed as philanthropic efforts, though the focus is obviously reaching billions of new ad eyeballs in developing nations.

In India the net neutrality debate has heated up of late and Facebook's venture into zero rated apps isn't going so well, as previous supporters of the company's Internet.org initiative are jumping ship. Numerous companies have dropped out claiming Facebook and ISPs shouldn't be in the position of picking winners and losers:
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Facebook partnered with Reliance Communications to launch the app in India in February, the list of services on internet.org, which provides internet access to a limited portion of the internet for free, included a total of 37 websites or apps other than Facebook. Cleartrip posted on their blog that they had withdrawn their association with internet.org entirely, saying that it was against their core DNA, and that was impossible to pretend there is no conflict of interest.
Susan Crawford recently didn't pull any punches when explaining why Google and Facebook's vision of the Internet is doing users a disservice:
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"For poorer people, Internet access will equal Facebook. That’s not the Internet—that’s being fodder for someone else’s ad-targeting business,” she says. “That’s entrenching and amplifying existing inequalities and contributing to poverty of imagination—a crucial limitation on human life."
Here in the states, both AT&T and T-Mobile have tried to implement zero rated app systems (Sponsored Data and Music Freedom, respectively), but not without controversy. While Chile, Canada, Slovenia and The Netherlands have all banned zero rated apps under their net neutrality rules, the FCC so far has given every indication they'll support such models despite the agency's shiny new neutrality rules.
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en103
join:2011-05-02

en103

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Walled gardens

Had a place with companies like AOL in the 90's and old dial-up BBS's, but in this day and age, walled gardens shouldn't exist. I understand that companies like Facebook, Google, etc. want to be able to give free 'service' (nothing about Internet) to consumers, and in theory, if the law allows it - to do so. Similarly, users should also be able to have (open) alternatives. In some places - this isn't always feasible. This will be an interesting piece.

Flyonthewall
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Flyonthewall

Anon

If even one company can get free caps, they all should

By selling cap free service, it shows how disingenuous the whole issue of caps really is: It'snot about protecting the network from congestion, it's about getting paid, and paid big. Either 1) from the user for going over usage caps, or 2) from the app owner directly to let the customers use that app in an unlimited fashion.

The first one, while stupid, at least treats everyone fairly. The second is just a money grab and an attempt to funnel people to use certain apps for advert purposes and is against net neutrality.

Hmm
@rr.com

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Hmm

Anon

NOT News

This is not news and has been covered by others for years now. And I have even cited where it has happened. Google, FB, and Netflix don't care unless they're grabbing your data.

This is why making them pay here is no big deal since they do it in many other countries. What is good for them to do in AUS is good for them here.

fg8578
join:2009-04-26
San Antonio, TX

fg8578

Member

Minor point

It was a google-VZ effort that resulted in the 2010 rules that VZ later sued to overturn. AT&T had nothing to do with it. Your own 2010 article confirms this.