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Google Fiber Expands to Shawnee
Overall Kansas City Footprint Grows Larger
by Karl Bode 09:04AM Friday May 03 2013 Tipped by mob See Profile
Google has announced via their Google Fiber blog that they'll be expanding Google Fiber's presence around Kansas City futher. According to the company, the Shawnee City Council voted to bring Google Fiber to their city, though there's no hard date being given as to when locals can expect to sign up for service. "We still have a lot of planning and engineering work to do before we’re ready to bring Fiber to Shawnee, so we don’t have an estimate for when service will be available yet," says the company. Shawnee is the fifth Johnson County municipality to sign an agreement with Google for the service, after a similar expansion announcement for Olathe was made in March.

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mob
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Soon enough then

It's 7 blocks to the north, and 3 miles to the south of my home. Hopefully my city (Merriam, KS) gets in on the deal and I can get more speed!
vlad1000

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new york city?

i wonder if new york city will be on google fiber list anytime this century

YukonHawk

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Patterson, NY

Re: new york city?

You go Google....NYC can use you too!!!
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No. It has FiOS.

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verizon isn't stupid and google is not a charity.

nyc areas with no fios are generally low income low education high twc penetration areas - there simply is no profit in lighting them up, so verizon would rather pay lawyers to keep nyc off it's back, then fully build out their system.

karpodiem
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have any Google Fiber users popped up on DSLR yet?

are there any Google Fiber users on DSLR? I'd love to take apart one of these boxes - »cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_im ··· cape.jpg

You'd be reimbursed for a replacement (I realize these things go for $500-600)
TBBroadband

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Re: have any Google Fiber users popped up on DSLR yet?

None that I have seen

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said by karpodiem:

are there any Google Fiber users on DSLR? I'd love to take apart one of these boxes - »cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_im ··· cape.jpg

You'd be reimbursed for a replacement (I realize these things go for $500-600)

Working on it man. Everyone I know that can sign up has - but their neighborhoods have not been deployed yet. I'm hoping my city is on the list soon as well. We already have one FTTH provider, so another is just gravy, tbh but I want dat speed.
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axus

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Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

I was curious, after reading about the VTel gigabit, does Google have any big subsidies from the federal government as well? I realize they have some non-cash help at the local level.
TBBroadband

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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

Nope. It's out of their pocket and what the tax payers are paying for with all the free stuff the Cities are pissing away. The only thing this proves though is that, any company can move in and offer services without a problem, the only thing that is the problem. is laying the cables, etc.

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Not unless you consider the standard tax expenditures all corporations use. All of their real subsidies come at the expense of local taxpayers, power, office space, ROW, etc.

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TBBroadband

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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

Actually with this, Google is getting FREE power by locating their equipment in gov't offices. So that's not fully a tax expenditure. That's just something on the tax payers back and no different than Muni build. I see Google doing the samething VZ and others are doing; get approval and then not wiring up the locations, especially with how long it's taking them with only 2 cities now.
ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

But keep in mind how long it took cable companies to do their original builds way back in the day. Basically, Google is having to do that, so it's going to take longer. Plus, this is their first significant fiber build, so that will also add to the time.

If Google decides to expand into other markets, expect them to staff up for such a project. And you may be correct about them getting a bunch of permits that they may or may not use. From a business perspective, there's a logic to it. At the moment, they don't know if Google Fiber will be a success, but they have to plan for the possibility that it will. That means having permits in hand so that, if things go well, they can quickly jump into other markets.
TBBroadband

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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

If they were serious in building out, they could easily call in a few major contractors and had the system built out already. They're doing it by "fiber-hood" those with the most about of people see it and those with nobody- don't see anything.

And Google Fiber won't be a success its a money pit when you factor in their losing on EVERYTHING at this point; including on TV. And VZ deployed markets fairly easy and fast, and still are. No excuse for Google.

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And back then it was a zillion different cable companies. Everyone had their own tiny slice of the pie so there were lots of simultaneous deployment back in the 1970 into the early 1980's.
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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

Not only was it a lot of companies but when the Franchise authorities had the advantage they require a known build out schedule.
Google( having the extreme advantage in the current negotiations) is specifying they'll build areas as demand is shown.
If people would step back from how bad they want fiber, they might recognize how manipulating google is being.
Ring the bell, watch them drool.
Soon they will want your first born child.

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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

That is the perfect system. Demand drives supply.
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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

Agree, but some people may not have cheap power, sewer, mail, trash pickup, water, police, fire dept...

It would become an open market to serve, but the costs to the consumer would go up, no being subsidized by the general public.

I'm game.

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Re: Does Google use any federal subsidies for this?

That is the thing...subsidies merely hide the cost and when costs are hidden in other costs they are always cumulatively higher. There is no accountability. Ultimately taxpayers are paying for all of those services.
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Kamus

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said by TBBroadband:

especially with how long it's taking them with only 2 cities now.

You seem to be very knowledgeable on the time it takes to deploy FTTH on a big city, please share your expertise with us.

Just how long does it take to deploy fiber on a city like Kansas? Please be as specific as you can be, thanks.
TBBroadband

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Johnson County

Richest County in KS and also one of the richest in the US. Also with a great school system, and a neighbor of Spent-Nextel, along with GAP.

And in the meantime, groups like OneCommunity and are expanding fiber networks in Ohio that can be used by local ISPs to bring in faster and affordable Internet since OneCommunity is a non-profit with help from PNC and the FCC
dustman81

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Tallmadge, OH

Re: Johnson County

I live in a area served by OneCommunity, however I can't get fibery goodness as they sell to commercial and non-profits only. If they started to sell to residential customers, they'd give TWC and AT&T a serious run for their money.
xenophon

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Another KC suburb on MO side reported today

Raytown to the E of KCMO is now reported to get it as well...

»www.kansascity.com/2013/05/03/42 ··· gle.html
TBBroadband

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Re: Another KC suburb on MO side reported today

There is a difference between getting it and a "plan" to getting it.
xenophon

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Re: Another KC suburb on MO side reported today

The report says 'tentative agreement' with Google, so really no different than Shawnee report.
xenophon

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Re: Another KC suburb on MO side reported today

Another KC suburb on MO side added, Grandview...
»thenextweb.com/google/2013/05/08 ··· service/