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'Google Fiber' Heads to Africa
by Karl Bode 04:00PM Friday Nov 29 2013
Google's interest in Africa as a developing market with huge earnings potential has been exemplified by their White Space broadband experiments there, though the search giant has turned up the speed a notch on the news they'll be deploying a significant amount number of fiber connections to African cities. According to the Google Blog, the company's "Project Link" initiative will begin with Google deploying fiber throughout the Ugandan capital of Kampala.

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Google's effectively shoring up the supply chain, building a fiber ring that will connect continental connectivity to the city, with ISPs and mobile carriers invited to compete over that. It's effectively the open access concept Google Fiber originally promised but discarded here in the States.

"Project Link goes beyond basic access; it enables local providers to offer new mobile data plans or high-speed Internet for office buildings and universities, and support newer technologies as they come to market," notes Google.

"For Kampala, we hope it’s a foundation to support the needs of a new crop of entrepreneurs and innovators: the media-rich projects of a successful musician, fast connections for local hospitals, or new digital learning tools for students."

Just 16% of Africans can get Internet connections, and most residents of Kampala currently connect at dial-up speeds. In addition to Project Link and White Space broadband trials, Google is also experimenting with using hot air balloons ("Google Loon") to deliver connectivity to developing markets.

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eco
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Gates

I have to agree with Bill Gates on this one...what's the point of high speed fiber Internet if you're dying of malaria or scores of other tropical diseases? Shouldn't ending those be the priority over ending dial up Internet access?
34764170

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Re: Gates

You do know that more than one thing can do on at the same time? It's not as if things in this world are only one thing at a time.
eco
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Re: Gates

The point is instead of spending money on fiber Internet for Africans, spend that money on saving African's lives.

Quake110
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Re: Gates

Proverb: "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."

It's a combination of both. Yes, you need to help those who're sick and in need, but if you help a community/country by building them a better infrastructure, they'll be able to advance by themselves, therefore, they won't been people's help anymore.
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I agree with Quake. If more people increase their income the health problem decreases and they have advanced in faster technology also. I realize health problems suck the life out off the economy but if you just cure the health problems then you have a bunch of poor people with nothing to do.

They need both. Let Gates do his thing and Google do their thing.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: Gates

Nothing like more Nigerian 419 scams! Now even faster !

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Re: Gates

Yah, here's a couple caught in the act!

»maps.google.com/maps?q=Kampala,+ ··· -5124098

cork1958
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said by WhatNow:

If more people increase their income the health problem decreases and they have advanced in faster technology also.

And just how are they going to magically increase their incomes?

That sounds like a major issue we need to fix right here in the good ol' USofA!!
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Im trying to decide if this is a pun or not, you mean give an nigerian a phish and feed him for a day ? but teach that nigerian to phish and he will phish for life?
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said by eco:

The point is instead of spending money on fiber Internet for Africans, spend that money on saving African's lives.

If you build it, they will come
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But if you promote economic development, they will have more money to help the rest of their populations...
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Maybe they should be 'educated' or direct their sexual urges elsewhere so they wouldn't contract malaria through rapes and random sexual activities.

Having the internet as a 'activity' for them to consider, would greatly move them away from usual time killing activities, though it's a doubled edge sword.
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Malaria is spread by mosquitoes.
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Re: Gates

Sub-Saharan Africa thanks the environmental movement for getting DDT outlawed. Sure, millions of human beings have died, and will continue to die, but that's a small price to pay to protect some birds of pray that may or may not have been suffering because of DDT.

Corehhi

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Crook DDT is still in production and used in poor countries. It very cheap and effective.
dra6o0n

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And like diseases, HIV and aids, can be spread between humans through bodily fluids.

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Seems like basic education is pretty spotty in Ontario.
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said by eco:

I have to agree with Bill Gates on this one...what's the point of high speed fiber Internet if you're dying of malaria or scores of other tropical diseases? Shouldn't ending those be the priority over ending dial up Internet access?

This tired argument again?

What if people anywhere could have access to information from anywhere else, instantly. That seems to be of some use. It could give them access to info that would let them know what kind of things they need to build things that help their lives.

You know what it doesn't do? It doesn't make a 3rd world population think they need to be dependent on pharmaceutical corporations to better their lives and health in a way that is better than the previous few thousands of years they have survived without it. And I bet there are a lot of old people in Africa that would agree too.

Knowledge and access to others knowledge is a lot more important than getting your pills.
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KrK
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Why assume Kampala is a disease ridden hellhole?

Take a look at it online. It's a standard city. With regular people. Many who use the internet.
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MrBungle87

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That's progress

So, at this rate Africa will probably have faster Internet in its city centers than will the United States.
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Re: That's progress

And nobody to use it when the people are dying or have no computer/power.
34764170

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Re: That's progress

The usual ridiculous exaggeration. 1.6 million people in the city but not a single person to use it. Complete and utter bullshit. Can you make anymore posts that make you look anymore clueless?
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Re: That's progress

From Wikipedia:
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Although it has abundant natural resources, Africa remains the world's poorest and most underdeveloped continent, the result of a variety of causes that may include the spread of deadly diseases (notably HIV/AIDS and malaria), corrupt governments that have often committed serious human rights violations, failed central planning, high levels of illiteracy, lack of access to foreign capital, and frequent tribal and military conflict (ranging from guerrilla warfare to genocide).

His perception of that country isn't different from mine. Where I work, there's an abundance of nurses from that side of the world, and whenever there's talk about their hometown, it's not usually bubbly.

The global economy is crummy everywhere these days, but the problems in that country are more serious than most people would think.

It's cool that Google is trying to bring literacy in a country that seriously needs it. And it's not Google's fault or responsibility to get it. They're only trying to, and probably making serious bank in the process.
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The problem is that nations that has all those issues, also have low and bad communication systems between people.

Meaning while you can spread word of mouth about how Nation X is being awful and has corrupt government and all, it's not as huge as every citizens complaining about it on the internet, thus 'causing' the government to censor them.

Having the 'internet' available to many acts as a double edged sword that the 'majority' can take advantage of over the minority.
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Re: That's progress

I personally find something very wrong with censoring people; whether facts or fiction; unless you have something really bad to hide. But everyone does things differently I suppose.

Corehhi

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Double edged sword in deed. Fiber just gives one side or another something to destroy or whole hostage. People striving isn't the real problem it's war, caste system, slavery etc. etc.
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Same as in Ohio. The State Universities have huge amounts of students from Africa. And most are here to become doctors and nurses, and they choose to stay here and NOT return home, only wish to bring the rest of their family here.
34764170

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That still doesn't translate to there being NO ONE to use the service. Stop thinking in such black and white terms.
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It's not BS and an exaggeration, you do realize that most of Africa is poor right? No water no power, nothing. Do you watch TV? Read the news? P&G and The Gates Foundation pours money into those areas by the millions for water, education and just basic needs that Africa has a whole is generally lacking. Google should be behind them instead of trying to be a PR machine.

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said by TBBroadband:

It's not BS and an exaggeration, you do realize that most of Africa is poor right? No water no power, nothing. Do you watch TV? Read the news? P&G and The Gates Foundation pours money into those areas by the millions for water, education and just basic needs that Africa has a whole is generally lacking. Google should be behind them instead of trying to be a PR machine.

So the poor conditions in parts of Africa have nothing to do with other countries moving in and taking the natural resources or riches? This happens to an extent and for such a long period of time that the local populations cultures is completely lost. They don't even know how to survive like their ancestors have. You can't just swoop in and treat the problems created by those who only take what's good and expect that to be the best answer.

I don't think putting the poor people of Africa on a prescription pill healthcare plan that someone pays for is even close to the best answer for Africa but it sure as hell is a good solution for drug companies and those that push along the greedy corporate causes.
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You still don't get it.
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Africa has about 40tb/s of backbone connecting nearly the entire continent at the coastline.

»cdn5.techchange.org/wp-content/u ··· 08/1.png

To give perspective, the Internet's peak bandwidth is about 100tb/s, so African can handle about 40% of the Internet's total bandwidth.

That's pretty good for a such a poor place.
ptbarnett

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Good grief, Karl

The last two times you posted about Google Loon, it was pointed out they do not use hot air balloons. They use gas balloons filled with helium or something else lighter-than-air.

The number of BTUs to heat and maintain the required temperatures in a hot air balloon for any significant time would require propane tanks weighing many times the payload.

Why do you keep posting something so obviously wrong?
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Re: Good grief, Karl

And it's not like they can't utilize lighter forms of objects to carry said connection up...

If someone made a innovative kite which can be tied to the ground and picks up wind and floats rather easily, then it can act as communication relay from the wave in the air to the ground, plus the cheapness of such an idea makes it easy to deploy and replace.
34764170

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Who cares! You're nit picking about the most irrelevant crap.

Probitas

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it's not just internet

It's education, government reform, exchanging ideas, communication. With these things the continent could pull itself out of third world status. With these benefits you also get higher wages, increased LOCAL spending (something that is a severe problem) and better prices abroad due to a better understanding of other markets and their commodities desires. Only people invested in status quo would argue against it, and of course, seeing GOOGLE start the ball rolling shutting out the incumbents from NA is just icing on the cake. Or it may be that Google is forcing them to take notice and start to invest rather than just milking the country of resources like the standard companies do.

What's not to like?

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