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2014-Mar-25 6:57 pm
If you miss your deadline, we dont currently have plans to reopen signups..No pressure sales here  "Today Only" | |
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Re: "If you miss your deadline, we don146;t currently have plans to reopen signupsAnd better known as down count on them offering service beyond this. They're uptake is probably not that high there either, even after having the network given to you and the tax payers still on the hook to pay for it. | |
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Re: If you miss your deadline, we dont currently have plans to reopen signupsOr maybe smart planning? They have 3 separate crews in KC working. One pulls conduit/trenching, one runs/splices fiber, and one does the install in the home.
Why would you keep the first crew around once the deployment in the city is done for 10% of the fiberhoods that didnt have enough interest the first time around? | |
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2014-Mar-25 8:06 pm
Re: If you miss your deadline, we dont currently have plans to reopen signupsPeople move house, people grow up, people die. | |
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Why be a cherry picker and just not run to everyone. Oh wait- they claimed they'd be better than the local MSOs/ILECs. | |
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2014-Mar-25 11:46 pm
Re: If you miss your deadline, we dont currently have plans to reopen signupsAny other provider picking and choosing 'hoods' based on promised ROI would be chastised for its actions; not Google. | |
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Repeat after me... "It's cool cause... it's google!"
The only reason they are doing it at such bargain basement prices is the ad revenue, cause that is where they are getting their deployment cash from. | |
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Imagine if AT&T said this.......This goes to show yet again how Google gets away with murder. If your ILEC where to say it they would have instant lawsuits.............. | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......Imagine if Comcast said this to a corner of a country without ANY cable TV. | |
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Very true, but with Google and DSLR it's okay. | |
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Uverse is available in my zipcode but not on my street, so you can accuse them of cherry-picking. | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......Zip codes are related to population inside then. They can be 1000s of sq miles (as big as a county) or less than 1 sq mile. They are not fixed units of area. | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......I live in a fairly dense urban zip with mix of lots of residential hirises and single family homes in typical urban streetgrid. Uverse is available in only about half the zipcode (about 10x10 streetblocks), so ATT chooses where they wanted to deploy, what the Google detractors call cherry-picking. Google polls to see who is interested... that's not cherry picking, that's actually asking who wants it and they go there. | |
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Imagine if ATT offered 1 Gbit/s for 70 dollars without pesky competition driving them to do so like Google.
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......or, lifetime free internet for the cost of installation... they have free 7mb, I pay Fairpoint $60 a month for 7mb dsl... | |
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2014-Mar-26 10:08 am
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this....... not for life, it's "no monthly charge for at least 7 years" and a $30 install
And they still are having to threaten people to get them to sign up... could it be they just don't want it? they are tired of the whole "iProvo Experience " of having there city in debt over a system "that wouldn't cost anything extra" charge a property tax and now a sales tax in order to pay the "for life" cost and seen it given away ,repo'd, and given away again while they still pay for the FREE internet, whether they want it or not? | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......In KC, I don't know a single person (directly) who doesn't have Gfiber who can actually get it. Even my sister who didn't have any interest (she's been a phone only internet user, no interest in pay TV) got the 5M for 'free' in her condo building. She used to bumb off her neighbors WiFi, now she has her own and can do Netflix. I set her up with Chromecast and is a new world for her.
My condo building is almost wired up and should be scheduling my unit soon. Even older people who don't have internet (some use the public PCs in our condo library) are looking forward to the free Gfiber version in home. Every unit automatically gets 5/1 with of course option to upgrade.
Basically every condo/apt building I know of in KC is going for the free 5M except for some buildings run by slum lords. | |
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2014-Mar-26 3:33 pm
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......yeah this is exactly why I wish I could get Google's attention for my town here in Massachusetts (Chelsea).
We have a ton of low income folks who would greatly benefit from the free 5/mb service. It would give a lot of households with children that cannot afford Comcast's high prices.
I could easily get the city manager and city council on board, as we could pitch this to businesses also, as we have many hotels and businesses coming to town and having fiber avaliable city-wide would give Chelsea a better edge on attracting more businesses (since FiOS is very cherry picked around here, and VZ has zero plans to come to Chelsea).
Of course Google has no services anywhere near us, so not sure how feasible it would be to pick one town in New England where no other nearby towns. (aka Google would need to build a data center here.. HOWEVER Google does have a soon-to-be larger office in Kendall Square, Cambridge. (which is mainly for development). But hey it's a start. | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......And the 'free' 5M is also great for those who could afford internet/paytv but are such light users/viewers that smartphone internet is all they do. I gave my sister an older WiFi tablet (she was already Android smartphone user) after she got the 'free' 5M and she uses it heavily now (as well as for a Chromecast remote).
The free 5M does change the dynamics for light Internet/non-pay TV peoples... not just for those who can't afford it, but for those who choose not to or were turning into phone only internet users. The bottom line is they may use the Internet more often and more services, and more potential clicks for Google. | |
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said by cybah:It would give a lot of households with children that cannot afford Comcast's high prices. You do know that Comcast will provide 5 Mbps to the families of kids who qualify for free/reduced price lunches for $9.95 per month? » www.internetessentials.com/ and they do it everywhere they serve with no activation or equipment fees? But unlike Google, their franchise agreements require them to cover ALL areas of a city under carefully planned rollout requirement, no threats of no chance to sign up later required. Eventually they cover virtually ALL the homes in a given area, profitable or not It's not fiber or the discounted services that cause some of us to question GoogleFiber as a broadband model, it's the inequitable pass that Google gets in meeting basic "fairness" requirements i.e. No redlining, no skipping difficult to serve buildings, paying for RoW and pole fees and franchise fees, power and insurance etc etc etc. While the fanbois pump Google up, forgetting to scream at the unequal treatment received by other providers or acknowledge the actual costs and restrictions force on those attempting to compete on a much larger scale. | |
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2014-Mar-26 5:36 pm
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......But it boils down to Free vs 9.95? You can't beat free.
Also ever try to get such a plan from Comcast? Its IMPOSSIBLE to get. I tried getting my sister who's kids qualify for this service. The reps either do not know what she's talking about, or try to upsell her on more expensive service. That whole program is a total scam because its IMPOSSIBLE to get, and really was put in place just so Comcast could by NBC/Universal. | |
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2014-Mar-26 6:07 pm
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......Somehow 300,000 families (1.2 million users) did get it and they have tried to make it more accessible/better advertised.
Not sure what happened in your case. (if you follow the link I posted looks fairly easy online/by mail/and has it's own phone number too.)
But giving FREE to anyone unwilling/unable to pay doesn't make it viable business plan/model other can follow.
Only the deep pockets of Google are making this possible (for now) hardly a commercial product you can expect other ISP's to match.
For every free you need one or more paying customers to make up the difference. | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......said by tshirt: Only the deep pockets of Google are making this possible (for now) hardly a commercial product you can expect other ISP's to match. Google and the majors all have deep pockets. The incumbents like to use lobbyists to buy their way out of competition. Google worked directly with the most difficult paths of resistance to deploy infrastructure and worked with local govts to reduce the bureaucracy and red tape. At least in KC, the incumbents also get some of those breaks now so not exclusive to Google. Google trailblazed a different approach (for others to use) while incumbents try to lobby their way out of competition (as they attempted recently in KS and failed). | |
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And they still are having to threaten people to get them to sign up...
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2014-Mar-26 11:34 pm
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......said by DataRiker:How on earth are they threatening people?? What does "sign up NOW or NO SOUP FOR YOU" sound like? | |
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2014-Mar-27 12:02 am
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......If people really wanted the service but couldn't afford the package they wanted at the time they could simply sign up for the free service and upgrade later. Don't really see how you have any kind of legitimate issue with this. I mean after all, you argue how great Comcast is. Why would anybody ever even consider signing up in the first place, let alone worry about a deadline????  | |
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2014-Mar-27 11:16 am
Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......said by DataRiker:If people really wanted the service but couldn't afford the package they wanted at the time they could simply sign up for the free service and upgrade later. But that's not what they said, this is "if you and enough neighbors don't sign up, we will NOT service your neighborhood, and we don't know if/when we'll be back to offer it again" YOU wouldn't find that an acceptable sales tactic from any other ISP. | |
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Re: Imagine if AT&T said this.......The other ISP's are not offering FREE service with absolutely no commitment or strings attached.
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Imagine that...planning deployment where people show interest in your product. (Don't you wish everyone did that?)
As a side note... I had this "vision" of the future (something from "Demolition Man")--all ISPs are Google Fiber (instead of all restaurants being Taco Bell). IOW, franchise ISPs take over the world by 2032 2132 (it always takes longer in real life than in movies). | |
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2014-Mar-25 10:59 pm
Re: Imagine that...said by GlennLouEarl:planning deployment where people show interest in your product. (Don't you wish everyone did that?) Planning and committing to buy are two different things, people are fast to have an ISP put down good money on a Hope and a Prayer. Google is smart to get some kind of commitment, the Average Person says go ahead and lay your Fiber and then if the price is right I might buy it. Then like with AT&T and Verizon when their deployment stops short of these people, they cry out with Cherry Picking! | |
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said by GlennLouEarl:planning deployment where people show interest in your product. (Don't you wish everyone did that?) Or where for profit businesses believe that they can actually get their money back in a reasonable timeframe. | |
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2014-Mar-25 11:42 pm
I tried to sign up....... but apparently Tulsa is a little far out to be a suburb of Provo, UT. At least they let me sign up for updates on when it will be available in my area. | |
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2014-Mar-25 11:45 pm
Might be mis-interpreting this....As I read this I realize these deadlines may be applying to this "special" deal where you sign up for Google Fiber for only $30 installation fee.
Unlike earlier areas where the install fee was $300. | |
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2014-Mar-25 11:52 pm
No leadership here. It's just Corporatism.Cities that are on the list for Google Fiber..... Of course nothing in Oklahoma. Not surprising. | |
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I'm a little confused.So, if someone were to buy a house in Provo after the sign-up date for Google Fiber in that neighborhood, they wouldn't be able to get Google Fiber unless the previous owners signed up and paid the $30 install fee? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding this. | |
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