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Google Fiber in Portland Hits Another Snag, Inexplicably Delayed

Google Fiber's launch in Portland appears to have seen another snag that will delay the start of construction in the city another few months. The city has been on Google's radar for some time, the company already having gained approval for the company's "fiber huts"; 500-square-foot buildings that will each eventually serve 40,000 Google Fiber customers. Google Fiber has also been quietly signing utility pole access deals throughout the city with Portland General Electric and Pacific Power and regional incumbent CenturyLink.

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But a report in the Oregonian, these efforts have once again been delayed.

That's according to contractors who expect to work on the deployment, who say the delay will be several months -- but weren't able to specify why. The delay comes despite a several year effort by Portland and the state of Oregon to make things as attractive as possible for Google Fiber.

Portland in 2014 reconfigured a city ordinance that banned the placing of fiber cabinets in city rights of way. The state meanwhile, after a few misfires, crafted a law designed to provide Google Fiber with several tax breaks for deploying gigabit service.

"We're continuing to explore the possibility of bringing Google Fiber to Portland and other potential cities," is all Google will say of the not-so-secret Portland launch plan. "This means deploying the latest technologies in alignment with our product roadmap, while understanding local requirements and challenges, which takes time."
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existenz
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Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

With the Webpass acquisition and fixed wireless testing in KC, perhaps GF is delaying Portland with consideration for broader fixed wireless rollout, which might alter current preliminary designs/plans and the way fiberhuts are laid out, causing the delay. May not be that at all but if the case, hopefully fixed wireless is used only where FTTH is difficult to pull off rather than GF's default/preferred method.
gsm
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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

back in 2012/2013 the Chinese government made it a mandatory rule that all new builds for apartments condos and houses must have a fiber optic install even if they cant get it yet. Why cant congress in the united states pass a law like that guess it goes to show how useful congress is these days

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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

Because we're not a socialist/commie country. Stop asking and demanding the government to get into deciding what wiring a building has. Be glad someone wants to service you instead. And if the ROI was there, someone would already have built Fiber into the units.

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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

The Government already has decided what wiring buildings have. It's called code. The reason why this is necessary is because of shoddy, dangerous, short-cuts and cost cutting in the past.

So, it's not much of a stretch to require a building to be fiber ready.
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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

They should require conduit be placed so what ever tech they want to use can be placed. If the wire, coax, or fiber is damaged upgraded it can be pulled out and replaced with a new connection. The biggest problem with upgrades now is you have to open up the wall, floor or ceiling along the route to get it from one end of a building to the other end.

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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

Good call.

No reason why all of it can't be pulled.
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Cuz Freedom. God (literally, with the outspoken and activist evangelical wing) forbid that we do anything that forces improvements on us. People would just complain it's extra costs they didn't want.

The New Deal, TVA, rural electrification would NEVER pass in modern times. Sad but that's the contemporary state of mind.

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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

The first homes started getting electricity installed in the late 1870's early 1880's. Even into the 30's only 70% of homes had power run to it. That is a 60 years of building infrastructure. Even for early adopters the internet "in homes" is around 25-30 years old. If you look at the time line wired internet service has been built out to homes at a much greater pace then electricity. If you add in the option of wireless service it grows the gap that much more.
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said by shanghaista:

Cuz Freedom. God (literally, with the outspoken and activist evangelical wing) forbid that we do anything that forces improvements on us. People would just complain it's extra costs they didn't want.

The New Deal, TVA, rural electrification would NEVER pass in modern times. Sad but that's the contemporary state of mind.

It really comes down to money. US Representatives represent corporate interests over people due to unlimited campaign funds and lack of regulations in place. Even if they would prefer to represent majority, they still have mouths to feed, right?

We also have too many people bliss ignorant who do not get informed. They put their all hope in presidents even though they elect Congress that works against them. They ignore local and state governments that are the biggest culprits in neglecting infrastructure, public education, business investments even though we want our country run with decentralized power and no big government. We are simply hypocritical.

This video explains it well.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· cLUqYqrs


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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

That's not surprising many of the bridges in America are rated d- or below and most people don't even know it until something happens and they ask why. Just watch Americas failing infrastructure on the history channel if you really want to get scared
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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

said by gsm:

That's not surprising many of the bridges in America are rated d- or below and most people don't even know it until something happens and they ask why. Just watch Americas failing infrastructure on the history channel if you really want to get scared

I know. And it is sad after watching Extreme Engineering, how Hong Kong build so much of infrastructure to open the new airport in so little time in expedited manner. We can't even get CA High Speed Rail to get started after over 20 years of planning.
I personally visited there and it was mind boggling how easy to was check in my luggage in town and then take express train straight to the terminal.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· 1JP2C6f8
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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

As I been saying but no one listens to me America just isn't what it used to be we losing on a number of things we no longer have the fastest super computer in the world any more china beats us. I keep saying we got maybe 12 to 16 years left of status quo that's all we got left we cant keep living like this for much longer the system cant support it or take it
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Re: Considering broad fixed wireless rollout for Portland?

In many cases we or the West does the expensive research and China comes in and stills the technology. If you notice they are pushing out companies like Apple, Amazon and allowing local Chinese companies to take the market. Then when they take over the Chinese market they under cut the cost and spread into the world market finally dooming the company with the original idea.

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As I said in the morning links...

Google Fiber will delay Portland launch for months or longer
So what else can they extract from Oregon and Portlanders specifically?
Perhaps, the mothership didn't like this too well
Portland will levy 'digital equity' fee on Google Fiber »www.oregonlive.com/silic ··· er_index

perhaps they thought GF shouldn't pay, and Portland should tax food trucks instead.

Sorry, Portland, GF DEMANDS the peasants pay greater homage.
Pray that they choose to allow you some broadband crumbs, if only you learn to bow a little deeper.

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Re: As I said in the morning links...

That's google. They want everything for free!

They got one massive wake up in CLT when they got locked out of much of the apartment buildings and HOAs. No $$$ no entry.
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Re: As I said in the morning links...

CLT is getting ATT Gigabit upgrades in many areas.

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Re: As I said in the morning links...

Yes. But not GF. ATT is paying to get in. GF is not. T will have more buildings and properties that GF.

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Buildings/huts

Are nothing more than a trucked in cell equipment shelter. If they were serious about this they should have told Sprint they wanted the ones they demoed when they moved to our door equipment.
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Aaaargh, another delay

Maybe I'll finally get Google Fiber when I'm 80 or so (55 now).