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1 edit | This company is a beast! Google is constantly pushing the envelope on technology. I would not be surprised if they come out with a PC-based operating system in the near future. Ever think about a whole Google computer?
Microsoft better take note and pay serious attention. I will be paying close attention to the G-Drive news. Google is not playing.
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 | | | Re: This company is a beast! said by fatmanskinny:Google is constantly pushing the envelope on technology. I would not be surprised if they come out with a PC-based operating system in the near future. They already do have their own "version" of Linux that they use in-house. Weather or not they will make it into a desktop OS... that is just speculation. No confirmation and I think they denied it once as well.
If they do, it will most likely be a while in the future, only be a thin-client, and have most programs available through the internet... but most of the U.S. Would have to have 100mb/s+ fiber connections before that can happen. So don't hold your breath.
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| | | | Re: This company is a beast! Their house version of Linux is said to be Debian based and is their own installation of chosen applications.
I doubt that the Linux that Google uses in house would be much different from Ubuntu (my current distro of choice) except for their own applications that are installed on it. | |
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| | | | | Re: This company is a beast! said by dualsub2006:I doubt that the Linux that Google uses in house would be much different from Ubuntu... Why would Google want to run a binary distro? Because thats what you run? | |
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| | | | | | Re: This company is a beast! Uh, no. If you read what I said, I have heard that the house version of Linux is Debian based.
I have never seen much more than screenshots. I do however doubt that there is anything so special about it that they would feel the need to pass it on to the general public. It is likely not functionally different from something like Ubuntu.
What part of that hangs in your head? And yes, I do know someone. Just never felt a real need to ask specifics about the Linux distro that is on his computer. | |
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1 edit | Re: This company is a beast! Ah, my apologies dualsub2006  . I read your OP too quickly and was in not in the best of moods this afternoon. My apologies for jumping on you and being a d*ck. I'm sorry.
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| | | | | | | | Re: This company is a beast! No worries mate.
I am trying to find out what is different about the Linux version that is used at the Goog. I'll post back if I find out. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This company is a beast! It actually is a modified version of Ubuntu. There are those that use Suse and Fedora and likely others, but Ubuntu is what it is. | |
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Vancouver, BC | said by dualsub2006:I doubt that the Linux that Google uses in house would be much different from Ubuntu (my current distro of choice) except for their own applications that are installed on it. I highly doubt it's a standardized kernel, it probably has clustering built into the current because of Google's HA environment. No stock Linux 2.6 or 2.4 kernel could handle the kind of demands a single Google server in a cluster must withstand. | |
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kudos:1 | If it's cheap I'll use them... Privacy concerns? I'm pretty dull LOL... | |
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| | | Re: If it's cheap I'll use them... Think 5GB for free to compare with Xdrive and then pricing like you see for their add on storage for Gmail and Picasa Web Albums. 40GB for $70 a year. That would make it about $50 a year cheaper than Xdrive for 5GB less storage. | |
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1 edit | Re: If it's cheap I'll use them... »mozy.com/home
2 GB free or unlimited for $60/year.
If privacy is a concern, check out their security features. | |
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| | What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? It's a fat load of steaming crap.
If it's PRIVATE don't POST it to the Internet.
Even though Google has never had a security breech and even though Google has never sold anyone's information and even though Google has never done one thing to abuse user privacy there are always these "privacy concerns" from groups or from reporters that never do one damn thing to actually call in to question the privacy of user data on Google servers.
I am a better, more productive business owner thanks to the free and paid services that I have with Google. There are bits that you can find here and there that have more features in certain areas but nothing that overall compares with Google IMHO. Bring on the gDrive. I'll pay, and I'll be smart enough to control what data I place on the Interwebs because it is MY responsibility to see to that my private shit stays private. | |
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|  quetwoThat VoIP GuyPremium
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East Lansing, MI | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? You may be smart enough to only store 'public' information on the gDrive, but what about your employees/bosses/others?? Hell, I can't even stop the 90yr old lady from HR emailing me a spreadsheet of everybody's Social Security numbers each week! | |
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| | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? I don't have bosses and my employees don't have access to any information that I would care to lose. The core digital records of my business are stored locally on a RAID server that only I have access to. It doesn't have Internet access at all and the drive is encrypted. I access it from one computer and that is the only two things on that network.
My employees know what jobs happen when and where and that is it. I didn't get to where I am by exposing the manner and method in which I do business to people that are no more committed to me than stray dog would be.
My PRIVATE business is PRIVATE and I am smart enough to keep it that way. It really is simple. If RAID storage is out of your price range then do a TrueCrypt volume and use some free options to back that up for you. | |
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Scotch Plains, NJ | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? ahahahah, too funny! | |
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1 edit | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? I just found your comments funny, because any business larger than a very small one can't do what you do, and you seem to assert that it's actually possible to even come close. | |
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kudos:12 | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? said by Frink:I just found your comments funny, because any business larger than a very small one can't do what you do, and you seem to be assert that it's actually possible to even come close. It's very possible to come close. AIG did it years ago. Even their laptop drives are encrypted.
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| | | | | | | | I am a very small business. In fact, so small that I have fewer than 10 full time employees. I did not, however, come up with this on my own. My wife works for a VERY large company with operations on every continent on the planet.
I asked her best friends husband who happens to work in their IT department to describe what I could do to keep my data safe. Over dinner and drinks he mapped it out for me on the back of a paper menu. What hardware to use, which router and firewall to control access and how to do the RAID so that it would work with the encryption.
It is THEIR model for data security. There is low hanging fruit that simply has to pass through employee hands and then there are the things that shouldn't be seen by the masses. It is a simple principle.
Hell, my wife's work laptop and desktop use full disk encryption and though she is in product development by the time it lands in her lap the secrets are already out of the bag. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? Your wife's company should hold security seminars for all these other companies out there that lose people's private, sensitive information all the time because they don't have a clue. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? That's easy. Get it away from the Internet. There is no excuse at all for these kinds of losses. TJ Maxx will take a hit in court that might put them right out of business. | |
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East Lansing, MI | Which may work for a very small company, that does not outsource, and has no remote workers.
In my past employment, over 80% of our workers did not work at the main location. I think we had 30 or so whom did (which included our accountant), but our HR was about 90 miles away. We had no choice but to exchange private data over the wire (private intranet, not the internet, but the point is the same -- it is digital).
At my Dad's company, he is a three man shop. He has an accounting firm come in and do the books twice a month. They need access to this data. Can be be sure that his data is secure? No? Was he assured that it is, Yes.
Sure you can rely on all the technologicial advancedments in the world -- firewalls, encrypted drives, etc., but it still comes down to the human element. For AIG, all it takes is a sales person who barely knows how to use a webpage, to click on the wrong link on a webpage, or to email the wrong file. It happens.
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kudos:3 | Yeah, but that's just you..... People freak out over google "cookies" (and "cookes" in general) and how they "track" you, especially in gmail with those "relevant" ads they serve up. There are people who won't even read email sent via gmail.
There will be a lot of people who won't touch this with a ten foot pole as they have a totally irrational fear of anything google, much like they have an irrational fear of other *big* organizations. Crippling paranoia is an ugly thing.
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kudos:12 | Re: Yeah, but that's just you..... said by La Luna:People freak out over google "cookies" (and "cookes" in general) and how they "track" you, especially in gmail with those "relevant" ads they serve up. There are people who won't even read email sent via gmail. There will be a lot of people who won't touch this with a ten foot pole as they have a totally irrational fear of anything google, much like they have an irrational fear of other *big* organizations. Crippling paranoia is an ugly thing. I have seen this first hand. It's sad really. If they get that paranoid about Google, I can only imagine what other paranoid delusions they hold in their real life.
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Little Rock, AR | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? I am totally with you on this, dualsub2006.
The "privacy idiots" can suck it.
Google totally rocks, and I don't think Wall Street fully realizes their value/potential yet.
I just wish I had bought more stock than I did when it was in the $450 range last year.
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2 edits | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? said by dallash:I am totally with you on this, dualsub2006. The "privacy idiots" can suck it. Since anyone who believes in privacy is an idiot, will you kindly create a spreadsheet for me consisting of your SSN, mother's maiden name, birthdate, current address and all of the addresses and employers you've had for the last ten years? Please also include the account numbers of any checking/savings accounts as well. And investment accounts. Can't forget those. Include also another spreadsheet detailing your medical history--surgery, any hospitalization, allergies if any, whether or not you are circumcized, things of that nature.
When you're finished compiling all that, I'd also like a separate spreadsheet of how much money you have earned -both above board and under the table- Please also include any spouses and children and at least 100 of your relatives, blood or otherwise. I'd also like to have their personal information as well. | |
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Long Beach, MS | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? Yes, because that's exactly what he's suggesting 
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| | | | | ANYONE that sticks this kind of personal information in an email, a spreadsheet or on a free site like Xdrive really is an IDIOT and is demanding that someone rake them.
I don't have employee information anywhere except on paper and with my payroll company. If they screw up that is for their lawyers to buy them out of. I don't one shred of the information that you have asked for here anywhere except with my mortgage company and some of it with my bank. Again, if they lose it they have lawyers.
People simply need to be smart with the shit that they put online. None of my data that is online is "public" as someone else has said, but IF Google shits the bed and my info hits the wide open intertubes I will be just fine and so will my business. | |
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| | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? said by dualsub2006:ANYONE that sticks this kind of personal information in an email, a spreadsheet or on a free site like Xdrive really is an IDIOT and is demanding that someone rake them. Didn't you just call anyone concerned with privacy an idiot? | |
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| | | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? No, that was a comment made by someone else. I did just call people who would take the kind of info that this guy wants and put it out there on a service like what is being discussed an idiot. | |
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1 edit | Here's a thought-- Why don't you just calm the fuck down and quit calling anybody concerned about their privacy "an idiot"?
You're coming across in this thread like some raving lunatic yourself.
I have serious concerns about my privacy-- from Google, the U.S. Government, the Russian mob, and anybody else. There is so little of it left, even when taking steps to protect it.
This doesn't make me 'paranoid' and it doesn't make me "an idiot". It makes me concerned.
And don't tell me this isn't what you've been doing. I can read.
We don't all play it 'your way'.
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| | | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? I didn't call people that are concerned about their privacy an idiot. That was someone else. I called people that were loose with their private data idiots. There really is a difference.
You, I will call you right out and say that you A R E an idiot and it has NOTHING to do with your concern for your privacy. Don't put words in my statements that simply aren't there. | |
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| Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? said by dualsub2006:I didn't call people that are concerned about their privacy an idiot. That was someone else. I called people that were loose with their private data idiots. There really is a difference. Fair enough on that one.
You, I will call you right out and say that you A R E an idiot and it has NOTHING to do with your concern for your privacy. Don't put words in my statements that simply aren't there. Except here we go. Simply not there, eh? Did you not say this also?
What is with all of this privacy concerns crap?
"It's a fat load of steaming crap."
I don't believe there's any mistake about that one.
The lions share of posts in this thread belong to you, and all of your statements have been delivered 'soapbox style'-- plenty of caps and bolding-- and with the not-so-underlying implication that people who might have privacy concerns, especially as regards the Google drive, are paranoid, delusional, or, perhaps, idiots.
You seemed to be awfully bent-out-of-shape about something, even though there didn't seem to be much to be bent-out-of-shape about.
So I gave you something. And of course it took you exactly five sentences to directly refer to me as "an idiot"-- longer than I would have guessed, actually.
But believe it or not, I'm not overly anxious to argue this point with you, and will admit that I was slightly off-base.
I have what I consider to be a 'healthy paranoia', and am always concerned about my personal privacy, both online and off.
As far as the G-Drive goes-- it sounds like a great thing, and I could easily see myself making use of its services from time-to-time.
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? Few things get me riled up enough to comment as much as I do.
Read the article. Once again, it states "privacy concerns" and says nothing in support of why. That is what my point was and still is. I veered off on a couple of other topics, but that point was and is that there is yet another totally unsubstantiated claim of "privacy concerns". Where? What are they?
You got your panties in a bunch and tell me I am a lunatic. I suppose you expected me to be polite and cordial and accept your admonition with grace. No thanks. | |
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| Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? said by dualsub2006:. . You got your panties in a bunch and tell me I am a lunatic. I suppose you expected me to be polite and cordial and accept your admonition with grace. No thanks. No, I didn't expect that. I figured I'd give you a legitimate reason to get riled up, and fully expected to be lambasted by your response.
You did seem to be awfully worked up about something that there didn't seem to be any reason to be worked up over.
And I'll say again that I admit that I was slightly off-base.
I hold no hard feelings towards you, and hope you feel the same.
Have a good one.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? No hard feelings here mate. Half of the fun in debating is actually having someone over on the other side of the table. | |
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| | | | Re: What is with all of this privacy concerns crap? You think a couple of Blogger hacks and some user side malware rises to the level of a Google data breech? You are flat out wrong.
Who in the hell has any kind of personal information stored on Blogger? If I used Adwords I might have cared about that malware thing, then again, not so much. It was still user side and not a systemic loss of data on the part of Google.
When someone cracks a Google server and steals a bunch of shit THEN you come back here and rub my nose in it. Stupid people have happily installed malware on their computers for a long time. That's not Google's fault. | |
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Tallahassee, FL | Linux I sure hope they show some Linux love with this. | |
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said by Maxo:I sure hope they show some Linux love with this. I don't think you have to worry, if they don't allow any traditional forms of connection (HTTP, FTP, SSH, WebDAV), it's almost certain they will have some kind of API and Open Source Developers will start pumping out GNOME and KDE programs. I'm sure there will probably even be VFS plugins so you can access it directly from whatever file browsers you use. No worries.
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Tallahassee, FL | Re: Linux said by jimbo2150:it's almost certain they will have some kind of API and Open Source Developers will start pumping out GNOME and KDE programs. This is probably true. | |
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College Station, TX | RE Google isn't concerned about your privacy, just like no other company is.
Wasn't it Google and Yahoo who were releasing information to the Chinese? Yahoo got in trouble for it. Google didn't. | |
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Alexandria, VA | And To Think... They used to lock your gmail account if they caught you using the old GMailFS hack.... | |
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Google sucks! They already have this mass storage slop, don't they, it's called crap Gmail!!
Mark my words here and now, Google will go down!! They are doing too much and spreading themselves to thin.
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| | re: privacy WTF You all are goofy. the man never ever said that anyone concerned with privacy is an idiot... he said that anyone putting private information online is an idiot.
BTW I have a small network at home locked up pretty good and who said that you couldnt encrypt a hard drive...windows has that utility built in...as long as it's an NTFS Drive(2000,XP,Vista and if im not mistaken NT 4.0) | |
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