Glen Head, NY
Damage Control As noted elsewhere, the tech company's have been falling all over themselves to help the government spy in exchange for lucrative contracts. This is all about damage control. I still believe, when pressed, these companies will as Bart Simpson said, "fold faster than Superman on laundry day."
I support the right to keep and arm bears.
Re: Damage Control
said by davoice:All BS because the NSA can just use their secret court to do what ever then put a gag order on Google.
Not only has the ship sailed, it sunk! Remember, if the gov can force them to give over the master encryption key, what difference does it make if the data was encrypted in the first place?
Dog meet pony Show Give me. Break. Faceook, google, phone companies, etc are wholesaling you data to the NSA through lucrative contracts. I don't believe one minute Google is going to make a truely concerted effort to thwart the government. Even if they did, any records becomeopn game under a FISA /FBI letter.
Short of never storingany data, this dog and pony show doesn't impress. The government will get its data by tapping the pipes and forcing companies to comply. Freedoms are gone post 9/11 thanks to fearmongering.
Legal Obligation to Cooperate, Remain Silent &Turn Over Data Google, like any company that has operations in the U.S. (whether based in the U.S. or not) has a legal obligation to cooperate, turn over data and remain silent about it under various circumstances.
They cannot avoid this fact without getting the laws changed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President.
Re: Legal Obligation to Cooperate, Remain Silent &Turn Over Data Perhaps not, but that doesn't mean they can't fight under select circumstances. And it certainly doesn't mean they need to go above and beyond what was asked (like AT&T allowing cloned fiber streams of every iota of traffic hitting their network). Fortunately Google's at least fighting against NSLs and these gag orders:
»Google Fighting National Security Letters
One also wonders what kind of movement would occur if Yahoo, Google, Apple, Facebook and Microsoft worked collectively to fight many of these demands under Constitutional grounds. A little collective, corporate resistance and civil disobedience using jobs as a carrot?
Re: Legal Obligation to Cooperate, Remain Silent &Turn Over Data
said by josephf:Google, MS, APPLE,etc don't have to secretly fight the law in FISA court. They can lobby Congress by buying Congresscritters at election time like they do on any law they like or don't like. If these companies REALLY want this law changed(which I doubt), they can buy it in Congress as usual.
They would have to fight it in secret with the FISA Court, whose judges will rubber stamp whatever the government argues.
"If you want to anger a conservative lie to him.
If you want to anger a liberal tell him the truth."
Yet Google... ... pays to keep advertising from being blocked.
(and adservers are HIGHEST target for malware injecting).
Pot meet kettle.
Beefing up encryption for the NSA they mean So that people won't know about the leaks unless they are a very good hacker
What good is... beefing up encryption when you just handover the keys.