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Google Makes Chromecast Less Useful
by Karl Bode 06:20PM Monday Aug 26 2013
Google's new $35 ChromeCast device plugs into an HDMI port on your television and allows the streaming of local content. The device received ample praise when launched last month, though a decision by Google to make the product less useful post launch is raising eyebrows. Google has released an update that has blocked support for Android applications that allowed users to stream any files they wanted from their local devices. Users and developers of both Fling and AllCast (aka AirCast) say the functionality of their apps has been blocked by Google, who clearly wants tighter control over approved content.

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i2Fuzzy

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Response from Google

said by Google via the Verge :
Google has responded to our request for comment, and any fears that the company may bar playback of local media appear to be unfounded. "We’re excited to bring more content to Chromecast and would like to support all types of apps, including those for local content," a spokesperson tells The Verge. Google notes that its Google Cast SDK is still in "early days" and may change significantly before an official release reaches developers.

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anonome

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Re: Response from Google

So, basically, "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by 'beta'?" (or is that 'alpha'?)
xenophon

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Re: Response from Google

Google hasn't released the SDK yet and prohibits 3rd party apps until they do. They are simply shutting off 3rd party apps until released. Sounds like local playback of videos will be allowed after they release the SDK and officially support 3rd party apps.

Karl, you're flinging paranoid shit in this case.

michieru
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Re: Response from Google

I don't think he is wrong considering it's normal behavior for most companies to lock certain features because of [insert concerns here]. Until they release the SDK the users are locked out. Just my 2 cents.

quetwo
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Nothing to see here...

AllCast and Fling were both admittingly using unpublished APIs in order to get their applications to work the way that they wanted. Those unpublished APIs changed, and their apps broke.

Google didn't intentionally break their apps (maybe the did -- we don't know), they used something that wasn't published, so Google didn't know they were breaking those apps.

Soo much doom and gloom as soon as something breaks...

milnoc

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Re: Nothing to see here...

So AllCast and Fling did the same thing that many Windows developers did a couple of decades ago: use undocumented APIs in their software, then blame the OS manufacturer for "breaking" the software.

Sheesh! Plus ça change...

workablob

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Houston, TX
kudos:3

Re: Nothing to see here...

plus c'est la même chose
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
I'm just waiting for 3 apps (in this order):

Plex
Amazon Instant
Tivo

Once I have them, I can deep six everything on all but my main TV. The other 5 have xboxes on them, and I'd rather pay $35 then send $100 bounty to MSFT every year for the same thing.

I already like CC interface better on tabs than roku ancient GUI, and ATV is out because its the ultimate walled garden, even though I have lots of istuff.

For now, Verizon doens't have the copy flag on most content, so I can watch W7MC recordings on Plex through my tablets today.

Now if Tivo gets this up, well I may consider switching back to tivo, but not for $6 a month and $100 for the Tivo mini boxes. Negative.

I hear romio can do android apps and HTML5, so streaming to a chromecast should be case, sans any transcoding foolishness.

If anything the big fail is that it's only wifi and 2.4ghz at that. That won't scale in a house too well. I can get it because 5ghz penetration stinks in current transmit power. You need moca or cat for that to fly. In the meantime it's a nice toy.

anonome

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Yeah... it's not like they added Buzz (aka Plus v0) to Gmail or anything.

skeechan
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Give it time

It is early yet. For mirroring it is still worth the $35 even if Google decides to break stuff. The PQ isn't stellar (I get a lot of compression artifacts when sending Youtube to it), but you can't argue with the price. It is worth it just to piss around with.
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elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

Re: Give it time

Chromecast doesn't mirror like say AirPlay. There is a sender (your tablet or pc) and the receiver the app running on the chromecast that peers directly from the chromecast to the cloud.

The crappy video you are seeing is the crappy video from YouTube. It's run directly off the chromecast.

I haven't checked to see if casting from the browser flings the picture or if it receives control from the sender and initiates peer to peer with the URL. Probably more like airplay but haven't looked

Now I can't cast amazon instant (drm) so methinks its using a mirroring protocol with the chrome browser which is still in early beta. I read somewhere it supports playready so the drm downers will be satisfied.

In any case the device has great potential and many apps will want to write to these API. Can't wait..

skeechan
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Re: Give it time

I have Chromecast and it isn't crappy video from Youtube as the same videos don't have the same level of compression artifacts when viewing in Chrome, ATV or on the PS3. Browser mirroring doesn't look good either.

I think Chromecast is still a bit undercooked. It may improve with time.
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patt2k

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Xbmc

I will buy it once xbmc is ported this will be a dream come true.
ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ

Re: Xbmc

Get an Android Mini PC. It does a lot more and already has XBMC.

mromero
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Android Mini TV

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFwxd3xO1ZY
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tcope
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Beta

I have little down that CC in it's current form is just Google's way of testing out what they may be rolling out later on. That is, they are using an inexpensive device to test the _system_ they are developing. So I see them dropping support for CC in a year or two anyway.