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Google May Offer TV Services Over 1 Gbps Fiber
Talks Have Occurred, But Nothing Set in Stone
by Karl Bode 12:38PM Friday Nov 04 2011 Tipped by Gbcue See Profile
Google has already stated that the company plans to deliver 1 Gbps fiber connections to users in both Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas. While Google hasn't specifically stated pricing, it's expected the service will cost local residents somewhere around $50, with the first customers coming online during the first half of 2012. Now according to the Wall Street Journal, Google may also be planning a television service that they'll offer those customers:
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Google has looked at ways to expand a previously announced project to build a high-speed Internet service in Kansas City, Mo., and Kansas City, Kan., adding video and phone service in a mirror of offerings from cable and telecom companies, according to people briefed on its plans. As a result, Google has discussed distributing major TV channels from companies like Walt Disney Co., Time Warner Inc. and Discovery Communications Inc. as part of the video service, though the discussions were exploratory and no final decisions have been made.
While Google has shown interest in video services, their Google TV platform (despite a recent 2.0 update) hasn't exactly set the world on fire just yet. Even after Google TV manages to overcome usability glitches, the service is hamstrung, like all such services, by broadcasting license restrictions designed to protect legacy business models.

While Google may want national Google TV integration into existing TVs and set tops, they likely don't want to be a national TV provider, and would face steep opposition from cable and broadcasters should they try. Like the 1 Gbps fiber offering, Google's interest is in smaller-scale deployments aimed at testing next generation ad technologies -- while collecting the kind of real-world end user congestion and performance data ISPs work very hard to keep private.

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JasonOD

@comcast.net

Yeah, good luck with that

Nobody in the content industry wants to touch you with a 10 foot pole.

ArrayList
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Re: Yeah, good luck with that

they don't? then why are all those movies on youtube?
25139889

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Re: Yeah, good luck with that

most of what is on youtube is uploaded by regular people. Content owners are NOT uploading their own movies to YouTube. Remember ViaCom suing Google to remove their safe harbor rights? Google one that and still refuses to police their sites better. By not working with Content Companies over piracy; Google will shoot themselves in the foot.

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Re: Yeah, good luck with that

*COUGH*http://www.youtube.com/movies*COUGH*

this sure looks legit to me.
elray

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Ala Carte? Not so much...

I would hope this would be Google's iTunes-Store moment, wherein they would throw a sledgehammer in the face of Big Brother, and use their influence to deliver genuine choice for the consumer.

But instead, they're going down the "me too" road. We'll hear of the wonders of OTT and IPTV, but they'll still be selling packages and bundles.

Why I am not surprised, the day after Amazon switched sides and became the Tax Collector.

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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

said by elray:

... Amazon switched sides and became the Tax Collector.

what do you mean?
leo81486

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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

yea google. plz bring everything to NYC.. brooklyn bayridge..
elray

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said by ArrayList:

said by elray:

... Amazon switched sides and became the Tax Collector.

what do you mean?

Yesterday Amazon stopped fighting the states on sales tax, and instead, offered itself up to enforce them, for a fee.
mogamer

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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

said by elray:

said by ArrayList:

said by elray:

... Amazon switched sides and became the Tax Collector.

what do you mean?

Yesterday Amazon stopped fighting the states on sales tax, and instead, offered itself up to enforce them, for a fee.

Look at it from Amazon's point of view though. They were losing independent sellers by leaving states that wanted to tax them Eventually they would have had to move some warehouses offshore.

Sales taxes don't bother me. I end up paying them on my state income tax form anyway (thanks to my too honest wife). I will still use Amazon because of pricing and selection that b&m stores find hard to match.

Armyzon

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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

said by mogamer:

Look at it from Amazon's point of view though. They were losing independent sellers by leaving states that wanted to tax them Eventually they would have had to move some warehouses offshore.

Sales taxes don't bother me. I end up paying them on my state income tax form anyway (thanks to my too honest wife). I will still use Amazon because of pricing and selection that b&m stores find hard to match.

I'll just go with independent sellers on ebay. I rarely shop on Amazon anyway especially for used items because I have no idea what I'm going to get.

I predict Amazon is going to become the next AOL and Overstock in a few years. The only thing keeping them alive at this point is their hosting services.
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said by mogamer:

Look at it from Amazon's point of view though. They were losing independent sellers by leaving states that wanted to tax them Eventually they would have had to move some warehouses offshore.

Sales taxes don't bother me. I end up paying them on my state income tax form anyway (thanks to my too honest wife). I will still use Amazon because of pricing and selection that b&m stores find hard to match.

Sales taxes don't bother me at all. Its new and/or increased taxes which bother me.

Our city, county and state are constantly inventing new taxes, although they try to call them something else. Just this month alone, the city, county, and state cost me nearly $1,000 in NEW regulatory compliance and fees that they just pull out of their rear. That's $1,000 not invested in our business, not paid to contractors, not circulating in the economy. And that type of nonsense shows up every month, without fail.

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said by elray:

said by ArrayList:

said by elray:

... Amazon switched sides and became the Tax Collector.

what do you mean?

Yesterday Amazon stopped fighting the states on sales tax, and instead, offered itself up to enforce them, for a fee.

Any news articles on this? First I'm hearing.
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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

said by Gbcue:

Any news articles on this? First I'm hearing.

»articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/03···20111103

»www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/1···tor.html

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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

said by elray:

said by Gbcue:

Any news articles on this? First I'm hearing.

»articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/03···20111103

»www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/1···tor.html

This is only for third party vendors.

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In an abrupt about-face, the company is now offering to handle sales-tax chores for merchants who sell products through its site for a fee equivalent to 2.9% of the taxes collected.

The optional service, which is set to roll out Feb. 1, will be offered to Amazon's third-party vendors in all 50 states. It's a strategy that could reap millions of dollars in new revenue for Amazon, which has been among the most vocal opponents of government attempts to tax e-commerce.
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elray

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Re: Ala Carte? Not so much...

You can spin it any way you want. That doesn't change the fact that Amazon has thrown in the towel, and chosen to bed down with government thieves, rather than defend their customers.

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Google

Until anything is actually built this is nothing more than empty promises. I also currently own a sony google tv, and although it has some very nice features like many said it's lacks content. Unless google makes it's own tv networks and provides alternative media, they are going to have to deal with licensing and permission to get content. Just look at how they have netflix.
romulusnr

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I still wish

that they would buy T-Mobile instead.
tmc8080

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want to help?

build where it's desperately needed... the heart of CenturyTel land (Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona)!! If the telco & closeby Comcast don't want to deploy fiber to the home... google should step in and make the southwest a priority!
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Re: want to help?

said by tmc8080:

google should step in and make the southwest a priority!

Why? Why should Google do this when no other entity really wants to? Google needs to pay for this laboratory exercise somehow and building infrastructure in markets that apparently aren't that profitable doesn't make too much sense from a financial perspective.
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Re: want to help?

said by openbox9:

said by tmc8080:

google should step in and make the southwest a priority!

Why? Why should Google do this when no other entity really wants to? Google needs to pay for this laboratory exercise somehow and building infrastructure in markets that apparently aren't that profitable doesn't make too much sense from a financial perspective.

Customers ALREADY shell out between $30 and $60 for phone service... they would LIKELY shell out another $30-$60 for broadband and VIDEO services as well (more emphasis on broadband than video..). The fact that companies have not done so is because they S Q U A N D E R E D their profits which were very good from the 90s and early 2000s, that's why... almost NO major metro area is left without fiber backed central offices or major nodes in strategic places. The profits left over after those upgrades go back at least a decade. So, there SHOULD be multiple BILLIONS of dollars of revenue ** AND USF FUNDS ** that should be pumped into upgrades at first in the most densely populated geographies and branch out... but companies have chosen to profiteer on the consumer when left with little to no competitive choice (Comcast, or nothing). If google wants to make a profit out of this, they can... BUT the incumbents have spent MILLIONS protecting their cash cow customers. As people begin to rise up against major malfeasance that's been happening for a decade or more and actually do something about it, there won't just be google wanting a piece of the southwest market.

* There are a few caveats... markets too close to the border with Mexico or in vastly rural areas (250+ miles from a central office) may never get fiber due to the scope of deployment (line miles) needed to get the job done. This isn't just a problem in the southwest, there are vast stretches of rural customers who know they're not going to get anything anytime soon so they'll have to rely upon some wireless broadband to bridge the gap and the newly $ RAISED $ USF fund fees "collected" by the federal government! Right now my usf donation with Verizon stands @ $2.98. You can't go anywhere taking a piss without finding broadband and/or a wireless signal in the northeast... who the hell needs MORE usf money in the northeast!?!?
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Re: want to help?

Thank you for the caveat. The southwest and midwest/great plains parts of our nation are sparsely populated which decrease the ROI of deploying new infrastructure. The telcos had decades of profitability and ubiquitously deployed telecommunications infrastructure because they were regulated monopolies with guaranteed profits. Do we want to go back to that? And I'm not talking about a slush fund like USF fee.

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Never happen!

The thought of 1ghz uncompressed video SOUNDS nice but will never happen with the content providers holding all the gold.
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traker1001

@comcast.net

Re: Never happen!

Who cares!, I don't give a crap until they undue the damage they did to SageTV!