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Google Politely Asks Georgia to Not be a Broadband Buffoon
Urges Politician to Hang Up on HB 282
by Karl Bode 04:37PM Friday Mar 01 2013
As I noted last month, AT&T and Windstream have lobbied Georgia lawmakers to pass a bill (HB 282) that would prohibit a town or city from deploying their own broadband if anyone in a single census tract has a 1.5 Mbps connection. This lobbying comes as AT&T moves to disconnect DSL lines and Windstream ceases network upgrades due to a lack of competition, meaning that these companies won't serve you -- but don't want you to serve yourself, either.

While these kinds of monopoly protectionism bills are unfortunately very common, the rabid stupidity of this particular piece of legislation has been drawing a little extra national attention. As a result, Google, Alcatel Lucent, and several other organizations and companies have fired off a letter to Georgia lawmakers quite politely asking them to stop being buffoons for hire. From the letter:
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Consistent with these expressions of national unity, public entities in Georgia and across America are ready, willing, and able to do their share to bring affordable high-capacity broadband connectivity to all Americans. Enactment of direct or effective barriers to public broadband initiatives, including HB 282, would be counterproductive to the achievement of these goals. HB 282 is also inconsistent with America’s National Broadband Plan, which calls on States to remove existing barriers to community broadband initiatives and to refrain from enacting new ones.
HB 282 was proposed by Representative Mark Hamilton, who can be (politely) e-mailed here.

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cchhat01
Dr. Zoidberg

join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY

Good guy Google...

... politely asks Georgia to STFU with their broadband (regression) plan HB 282.
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08034016
Hallo lisa Aus Amerika
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Byron, GA

Re: Good guy Google...

said by cchhat01:

... politely asks Georgia to STFU with their broadband (regression) plan HB 282.

Guys full them inbox's up , or we as Consumers well get screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

Hate to

see his inbox after this

FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
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Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

The speed referred to in the bill is 3 mbps download and not 1.5 mbps as mentioned in the story here.

»legiscan.com/GA/text/HB282/id/76···_Sub.pdf
As used in this chapter, the term:
(1) 'Broadband service' means Internet access service with transmission speeds that are equal to or greater than 3.0 megabits per second in the faster direction.
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I will be perfectly happy if the budget cuts specified in the Budget Control Act go into effect. 3 cheers for the sequester. Take the money from the drunken federal spenders.

KrK
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Tulsa, OK

Re: Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

They need to rename it slow-band.

The bill is still ridiculous.

marigolds
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The bill has since been amended.
»www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/201···0256.pdf

FFH
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Re: Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

said by marigolds:

The bill has since been amended.
»www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/201···0256.pdf

The one I linked above is a later version and totally replaces the one you linked here.
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I will be perfectly happy if the budget cuts specified in the Budget Control Act go into effect. 3 cheers for the sequester. Take the money from the drunken federal spenders.

marigolds
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Re: Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

said by FFH:

said by marigolds:

The bill has since been amended.
»www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/201···0256.pdf

The one I linked above is a later version and totally replaces the one you linked here.

Ah, okay, I read it the opposite way. Looked that way on the house website.

08034016
Hallo lisa Aus Amerika
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Byron, GA
said by marigolds:

The bill has since been amended.
»www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/201···0256.pdf

Excuse me Bills like this need to be Banned i wonder if there's a federal law regarding this mess.

intok

join:2012-03-15

Re: Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

said by 08034016:

said by marigolds:

The bill has since been amended.
»www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/201···0256.pdf

Excuse me Bills like this need to be Banned i wonder if there's a federal law regarding this mess.

This from a republican?
dagg

join:2001-03-25
Galt, CA

Re: Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

as a former republican, whats being passed off today as the republican party is... well... crap.

a true republican line of thought would be 'if i cant get new services in there, i cant get their money. and i want their money... to hell with being the bringer of services... '

what you are referring to as republicans are actually assclowns who are taking kickbacks and bribes. which are exactly the same regardless of the D or the R in front of their name when they are on the evening news.
Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
said by 08034016:

Excuse me Bills like this need to be Banned i wonder if there's a federal law regarding this mess.

It's called the Interstate Commerce Clause and the fact that states are attempting to regulate the internet with such laws clearly seems to violate it.

08034016
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Re: Correction: speed is 3 mbps not 1.5 mbps

said by Sammer:

said by 08034016:

Excuse me Bills like this need to be Banned i wonder if there's a federal law regarding this mess.

It's called the Interstate Commerce Clause and the fact that states are attempting to regulate the internet with such laws clearly seems to violate it.

Exactly!! Cox communications that, they have this Area locked down like the DMZ monopoly heaven here price you name it.

I would love for congress to get off their ass and pass this!!!!!

internet freedom and nondiscrimination act of 2008
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Holocaust survivors and their family's fill this out.
»online.ushmm.org/registry/update···form.php

Camaro
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Come on Google

Time to grease those wheels.
Os

join:2011-01-26
US

AT&T Will Write Him Another Check

He'll fight for his real constituents - corporations!

Metatron2008
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united state

How is Georgia being a bufoon here?

It's just a corporate bought politician. When are the politicians actually on our side?

It's doubtful 20% of people would want this bill.

MooJohn

join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
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Why not claim ISDN as "broadband"?

3 meg shouldn't be considered broadband anyway. It was 10 years ago maybe. Even my grandfather who is in his 80s has 12 meg service. He is a radiologist and is able to VPN into the hospital and read films via the Kodak PACS system -- something he could never think of with 3 meg service.

I am limited to 6 meg today (Windstream DSL) and I'm somewhere short of 3 miles from their office. Eventually I will switch to Charter (our only other option) who at least offers 50 and 100 meg plans.
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John M - Cranky network guy
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

exodus

until George becomes a state of tumbleweeds they won't get the message... I vote for leaving..
neil0311

join:2005-07-24
Marietta, GA

Re: exodus

said by tmc8080:

until George becomes a state of tumbleweeds they won't get the message... I vote for leaving..

Um...yeah. That's why New Yorkers (like me) by literally the hundreds of thousands to possibly millions (over about 30 years) have relocated here in Georgia from New York.

Good luck with your high tax, low productivity gov't paradise in NY.
tmc8080

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Re: exodus

said by neil0311:

said by tmc8080:

until George becomes a state of tumbleweeds they won't get the message... I vote for leaving..

Um...yeah. That's why New Yorkers (like me) by literally the hundreds of thousands to possibly millions (over about 30 years) have relocated here in Georgia from New York.

Good luck with your high tax, low productivity gov't paradise in NY.

Plenty of surrounding & southern states WITH more common sense broadband deployment.. Florida, Virginia, Louisiana, Texas, etc. Maybe in the 90s and early 2000s Georgia was a hotspot (for tourists passing through to Florida).. probably not since (AT&T bought Bell South). How's those anti-consumer policies which have the state on par with Canada working out for you down there? The mass exodus of "Notherners" moving south is all-but ended with the work-to-rule & anti-union policies. Basically much (not all) of the south is where the broke go to retire-- but since the early 2000s the northeasterners will move as far west central as they can stomach. Political polarization since 2000 has vast parts of the south off people's radar for relocation- so we can agree to disagree on that one.

*I actually liked Georgia in the mid 1990s.. the i95 corridor was ok especially Shoney's; nice people too. Since, then the rep's not so good.

TelecomEng

@rr.com

Re: exodus

said by tmc8080:

Plenty of surrounding & southern states WITH more common sense broadband deployment.. Florida, Virginia, Louisiana, Texas, etc.

While there are pockets of good network policy, specifically Lafayette, most of the other areas in the state leave much to be desired. Couple that with an economy dominated by lower wage service and hospitality jobs, few high tech jobs and an education system being eviscerated by governor who is only interested in furthering his own political career (he spends most of this time out of state at the tax payers' expense), Louisiana is not a replace to relocate to, but rather flee from.
tmc8080

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Re: exodus

I was referring to parts of these states WITH decent broadband.. before & after Katrina in '05 there have been fiber deployments in parts of the state less affected by the storm.

When the is economy crap, there really isn't a good state to be in.. just degrees of less crappiness. Using this standard, there are parts of the southwest (Co, Az and Nm for example) where you can get 10 - 40 megabits broadband too.
severach

join:2002-09-12
Jackson, MI

So long as one

phone company has a T1 somewhere in the area, no broadband for you. Don't forget, phone companies are people too.
IanR

join:2001-03-22
Fort Mill, SC

Is it Constitutional?

How can it be constitutional for a bill to be requested and possibly made "law" by any municipality which madates a lack of competition in basic utility services like braodband?
davidhoffman
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Warner Robins, GA
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Re: Is it Constitutional?

Municipalities? I thought the State Of Georgia was doing this. Where did you get the idea municipalities want this law? There is a growing nervousness among incumbent ISPs in Georgia that electric companies and cooperatives could follow the lead of LUS or EPB and decide to FTTH a city in partnership with a city or cities. The incumbents have decided to prevent municipalities from helping the electric power companies and cooperatives from doing that by getting new restrictive laws passed.
tmc8080

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said by IanR:

How can it be constitutional for a bill to be requested and possibly made "law" by any municipality which madates a lack of competition in basic utility services like braodband?

Maybe in 1900 - 1950, but in 2000 - 2050 we need quite the opposite. String a fiber cable anywhere you can!!
Slipen

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Cairo, GA
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·Windstream

No response

I emailed him and all supporters of this bill two weeks ago when it first appeared on the front page here. I have yet to hear back from any of them. I did hear back from my local rep Darlene Taylor and she said she would vote no on it and try to encourage others to do the same.

I also heard back from Casey Cagle and he said he would make sure that the views expressed by voters would be passed on. I emailed all of Windstreams executives last week and nobody but Mollie Chewning the head of customer relations emailed me back. She said she would look into the problem..not holding my breath.

LMControl

@sbcglobal.net

Sherman would be proud....

... that the scorched earth maneuver is alive and well in Georgia.