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Google Tries to Right the Google TV Ship
Though It's Not Going Particularly Well
It was kind of clear that Google TV landed with a bit of a thud, though it was made clearer when Logitech CEO Guerrino De Luca earlier this year stated their launch of the Google TV powered Revue was "a mistake of implementation of a gigantic nature," and that Google's product was a glorified beta. Google's clearly trying to keep the project afloat with new software updates and an expanded lineup of content, which will now include all of Sirius XM radio content. The company has also launched some new hardware in the wake of Logitech's retreat from the space, but the latest entry, the Sony NSZ-GS7 -- isn't faring too well in reviews.
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ITALIAN926
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ha

Trying to fix TV with the addition of radio. LMAO.

quetwo
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Still need an XM Online Subscription

This is nothing more than XM offering an app for the devices/televisions. You will still need to have an XM/Sirus subscription, PLUS the online/mobile access (at an additional fee).

Seems like a lot of press for a subscription app that still won't make me coffee.
25139889 (banned)
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Re: Still need an XM Online Subscription

did you think they would let this out for free?

quetwo
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Re: Still need an XM Online Subscription

said by 25139889:

did you think they would let this out for free?

Well, the press release really didn't mention that it required a subscription. Rather, it made it seem that you didn't need a subscription without saying it. Really a marketing fail to make that really apparent.

dvd536
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said by quetwo:

This is nothing more than XM offering an app for the devices/televisions. You will still need to have an XM/Sirus subscription, PLUS the online/mobile access (at an additional fee).

Seems like a lot of press for a subscription app that still won't make me coffee.

screw that!!1
tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

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$

the pay-tv (cable) subscription model is fading fast and google would be smart to steer clear of the online version. they should stick to doing what is the future.. multi-gigabit internet access to the home and expand.

ITALIAN926
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Fading fast eh? Vonage started VoIP more than 10 years ago, there are STILL millions upon millions of landlines. The TV model that you declare as "fading fast" will still be here for decades, it will NOT erode nearly as fast as landlines.
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where is it fading at? The customers that one company loses all go to another company. Telco TV has shown a huge increase in customers. And these customers bounce back and forth all the time for the best deal- you can even see it being discussed on here. CATV will not go away. There still will be someone who wants it and someone willing to pay for it. Especially those out in the sticks with no internet to get an online source. DirecTV/Dish will be there to pick those customers up.

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Announcement

There is supposed to be an announcement today at Google I/O for the Google TV that will dramatically improve the situation. Rumors are pointing to a new version of Google TV that addresses a lot of the shortfalls.

Also, the Sony device is an epic fail of usability, but the Vizio device that was announced yesterday at half the price ($99) looks like it could be a nice one. Especially since it supports 1080p MKV playback.

»www.vizio.com/costar/overview

Eddy120876
join:2009-02-16
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Adios Google TV

Look googles short falls are simple. Too many different version of their G tv that are incompatible with other or the usual no apps for then or nothing to watch besides youtube. Besides the king of the internet tv are not going to let G tv take up(Apple,Roku etc etc)

tc1uscg
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Re: Adios Google TV

Apple? Your kidding, right? Who pays for Apple tv? Roku, yes! I never understood why do the likes of Sony and Google (and Apple) want to charge people for stuff that's free already? I had a sony media tv player w/blue ray all of 2 days and took it back. Got a roku instead. Some companies should just stick to what they do best and stop trying to venture into areas they have no reason to.

Fronkman
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Re: Adios Google TV

said by tc1uscg:

Apple? Your kidding, right? Who pays for Apple tv? Roku, yes! I never understood why do the likes of Sony and Google (and Apple) want to charge people for stuff that's free already? I had a sony media tv player w/blue ray all of 2 days and took it back. Got a roku instead. Some companies should just stick to what they do best and stop trying to venture into areas they have no reason to.

You mean how you have to pay a monthly fee for roku to play hulu or netflix content? (especially when hulu content is free on a PC?)

Roku is no better.

Thaler
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Re: Adios Google TV

Sadly, Apple TV's best feature is that it can run Netflix.

Eddy120876
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Re: Adios Google TV

Yet it selling well.

Thaler
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Thaler

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Re: Adios Google TV

Compared to the iProducts & computer departments, Apple TV's not exactly where they want it to be. It's still seems to be a pet project if anything.

Eddy120876
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Re: Adios Google TV

Correct and like i said if you try to purchase the 720P Apple Tv you will see it still selling quite well and so is the 1080P version,something the competition wish they could do.

Thaler
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Re: Adios Google TV

But barely anyone buys an Apple TV, and buying integrated solutions and/or standalones like Roku instead. That's why they're making money hand over fist, and Apple TV still remains Apple's fledgling "pet product".

Just because Apple is happy where their product currently stands doesn't mean that they're selling well.

Eddy120876
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Re: Adios Google TV

It is selling well since you know Apple hasn't cut the price like Roku did.

Thaler
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Thaler

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Re: Adios Google TV

But Apple doesn't cut the price on anything, regardless of how it sells.

Eddy120876
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Re: Adios Google TV

True but the demand is high for the Apple tv . So why lower the price if the consumer wants to buy.

Thaler
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Thaler

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Re: Adios Google TV

We're getting in a circular logic loop here:

• Apple TV sells well because the price doesn't drop.
• The price doesn't drop on Apple TV because it sells well.

This is a "Built Ford Tough" kind of argument.

Eddy120876
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Re: Adios Google TV

I just go with what actually counts and what counts is the sales and what is selling well. I don't go with "blog sites surveys" since they can't be fix to target a particular audience. Also the ford tough is also subjective to you liking the brand or not. Hence why i only go with sales because if not then Google tV would be number one if you listen to fandroid site..LOL

Thaler
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Re: Adios Google TV

"Built Ford Tough" is an example of cyclical logic. Every item is as good/bad/tough/whatever as itself.

Thus, why your "it sells well because the price doesn't go down" and "the price doesn't go down because it sells well" is a meaningless statement.

tc1uscg
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said by Fronkman:

said by tc1uscg:

Apple? Your kidding, right? Who pays for Apple tv? Roku, yes! I never understood why do the likes of Sony and Google (and Apple) want to charge people for stuff that's free already? I had a sony media tv player w/blue ray all of 2 days and took it back. Got a roku instead. Some companies should just stick to what they do best and stop trying to venture into areas they have no reason to.

You mean how you have to pay a monthly fee for roku to play hulu or netflix content? (especially when hulu content is free on a PC?)

Roku is no better.

Roku doesn't play hulu. Hulu standard doesn't carry as much and has more interruptions. And it seems roku is easier to set up and works well streaming video off my media server, or in pinch, plug in a use and just watch from there. So, for portability, putting a few dozen movies on a 200gb portable usb drive then plugging it up to the roku has all but removed the need for a blue ray player except on the PC.

Eddy120876
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Re: Adios Google TV

yes Hulu on the pc works ok too many interruptions and yes Hulu + is better. I do the same for my Apple tv everything is connected. Ipod,Ipad and when friends bring their laptops or iphones.
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Dude the problem is that G tv will always fail when it has to face Apple,Roku or even WD tV. PS like @Fronkman says you want Netflix or Hulu you still have to pay

tc1uscg
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Re: Adios Google TV

said by Eddy120876:

Dude the problem is that G tv will always fail when it has to face Apple,Roku or even WD tV. PS like @Fronkman says you want Netflix or Hulu you still have to pay

No, Roku is free. Some of the content providers charge. Just like my sony Blue ray. If I want anything to work on it, I have to pay. So, I have my Hulu+ and Amazon Prime account there. I also have a sling shot for my Dish dvr so i can stream on my phone or tablet when I'm not at home. All I'm saying is, I brought home a Sony blue ray media device that offered G tv. I wasn't going to pay for stuff I could get for free. Then, I got the Roku. Hulu+ won on a coin toss. I paid a couple of bucks for hub-d-pub and I get Amazon prime and Epix for free (thanks to dish). Maybe roku is getting a kickback from those guys, but my charge card shows Hulu+, not roku.

Eddy120876
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@tc1uscg

yes Roku is free thats why i said why G TV has a stiff competition to get people away from Roku,Apple or DW.