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Google Unveils Nexus 5, Android 4.4
by Karl Bode 04:44PM Thursday Oct 31 2013
Google today finally took the wraps off of their new Nexus 5 smartphone and Android 4.4, aka Kitkat. There wasn't much in the announcement that wasn't already established by countless leaks; like the 2.3GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor and a 4.95" 1920x1080 display. The unlocked device is available now in the Google Play store (well, the 16 GB black version is already sold out) at $350 for the 16 GB version and $400 for the 32 GB version.

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Unlike Google's last Nexus flagship device it does include an LTE radio, and it will work on AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint's networks. Sprint says they'll be offering the phone with contract for $150, while T-Mobile will only state they'll offer the device at an "affordable price."

Unfortunately, despite Google and Verizon being such BFFs a few years back (to the point where they worked on weakening net neutrality rules together), Verizon customers are once again being left out of the fun.

The original Galaxy Nexus suffered from getting stuck in Verizon's software approval purgatory. The Nexus 4 only supported GSM. Now Google has confirmed that the Nexus 5 will not be coming to Verizon, though as a feeble attempt to console the annoyed, Google vaguely insists they're working with Verizon on an unspecified "set of projects" to be released in 2014.

Angry Verizon customers believe the culprit is Verizon's lust for control, distaste for true network openness, and insistence on shoving heavily Verizon-ware bloated Droid handsets down the throats of their subscriber base. Verizon customers in the company's support forums are, needless to say, not amused.

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decifal

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From what i've heard about it not having a replaceable battery and no sd slot. Pass, pass pass pass
xenophon

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Not thrilled about those two knocks either but decided to go for it.

Cabal
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Different than the iPhone or previous Nexus 4 how?
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skeechan
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Many people avoided the iPhone and Nexus 4 for the same reason.
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decifal

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said by Cabal:

Different than the iPhone or previous Nexus 4 how?

Never bought a nexus, I own an iphone4, it sucks not being able to swap out the batteries or not be able to use SD cards for more memory.. I'm living the suck atm, but not for long thankfully.. I know not having these options sucks thus, nexus 5 is a Pass for me,, by all means, run out and buy all of em if you want...
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
Maybe the best thing about N5 is that if teetering on what carrier to go with, can buy unlocked phone and switch between ATT/Tmob/Sprint as you please with no contract.
elefante72

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We have a winner. No carrier bloat either. Or just shuffle to prepaid..
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amungus
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Nice device

Looks good. Too bad about Verizon being so lame with their ways. If Moto can please at least keep up with the 4 new devices that they just released, and not leave them at 4.2.2, that'd be awesome (specifically, the Moto X that I just got ). At the very least, it'd be a good gesture.

It shouldn't be legal for these updates to ONLY come along for their 'flagship' while 99% of other devices linger on older versions for months at a time. It should be maybe 30-60 days between Nexus and then other capable devices.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Re: Nice device

Not Google's fault. Gotta love the carriers.

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

Re: Nice device

Yup. That's the carriers' fault, not Google. Goog's been releasing the code. The carriers aren't doing their part.

It's even worse for non-Nexus devices. There you have Android adulterated by the handset manufacturer, then further-adulterated by the carriers.

I like that N5, but no user-replaceable battery is pretty much a show-stopper, for me.

Jim

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Re: Nice device

doubtful that you will ever see a replaceable battery in another nexus device.
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iansltx

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Bought one

It'll be nice to have a device that can, depending on my mood and the cell coverage, switch between Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile by just a SIM swap. Including support for all three carriers' LTE bands...all of their LTE bands, in fact.

It'll be a bit of a step up from my trusty 32GB S III.

delusion ftl

@comcast.net

Re: Bought one

Will Sprint auto activate a device on a sim swap yet, or is a phone call/website login still required?
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Bought one

I would think you just activate on Sprint with ESN number on phone.

delusion ftl

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Re: Bought one

auto activate, meaning you do nothing except swap in an already activated sim

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said by iansltx:

Including support for all three carriers' LTE bands...all of their LTE bands, in fact.

This supports all three of Sprints LTE bands and everything they are doing with them?
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xenophon

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Re: Bought one

said by swintec:

said by iansltx:

Including support for all three carriers' LTE bands...all of their LTE bands, in fact.

This supports all three of Sprints LTE bands and everything they are doing with them?

yes

skeechan
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Would this include the coming in a couple of years TD-LTE also?
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said by skeechan:

Would this include the coming in a couple of years TD-LTE also?

The one on 2600 band with clearwire? Yes that appears in there now that i look at radio sepcs. It is already live in some markets since around the end of August.
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Re: Bought one

Even without SD or a replaceable battery...no bid deal for me, an iPh5 user, this looks like a great phone at an even greater price. At $400 for 32GB that is almost a contract price with any other high end phone but is carrier free from Google.
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iansltx

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Yeah. TD is actually live in a few places around here. I know because I have a hotspot that picks it up.

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About damn time

Finally! Well, guess I'll be selling this HTC 8X around Christmas and buying a Nexus 5. I've missed Android. Really enjoying Windows Phone 8 though. I don't miss iOS.

Phones to date this year: iPhone 5, Nexus 4, Galaxy S4, HTC 8X... oh, and a few "interim" phones: BB Curve 8300, iPhone 3GS, Nokia Lumia 900... and the best phone of all, the Samsung SGH-A157 (Google it).

Don't ask.

Edit: Maybe I'll buy an iPhone 5S and a Lumia 1520 alongside the Nexus 5, just so I can say I have all 3 flagships. Totally kidding. Maybe.
TheRogueX

join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO

Re: About damn time

You've had more phones in 10 months than I've had in 10 years. And I've had cell service for every one of those 10 years.
pkorx8

join:2003-06-19
San Francisco, CA

GSM + CDMA Sprint + LTE device

About time they finally cramped the GSM + CDMA Sprint + LTE radios onto one device, a Nexus device no less...
And I just bought Tmo LG G2 yesterday.... returning it soon!

BTW, google's webstore is NOT amazon. In this mad rush ordering period, my order attempts errors out, but they actually went thru as "pre-orders".... I had to cancel all the "pre-orders" after I got one actual order go thru.
Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Re: GSM + CDMA Sprint + LTE device

How is the LG G2 as I was considering that one or waiting for this one?

If I wait for this one, I'll still give it a few weeks or couple months to let the dust settle and see how it really is. Patience is a virtue.
pkorx8

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San Francisco, CA

Re: GSM + CDMA Sprint + LTE device

Actually, I'm currently on sprint with the optimus G, as I was transitioning to tmo and in the "14day try out period"(I pay $50 restocking fee).
The 2 big things that I need are android WiFi tether and Google wallet, which I have working on the sprint optimus G.
If timing works out, I may have all 3 devices on 2 carriers to test out.

JasonOD

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Can't block google wallet on nexus devices

You guys are aware that if VZ accepted the N5 on their network, there would be no effective way to block wallet. They can with GSM as the secure element can be delegated to the SIM. There is no equivalent on the CDMA side. Sprint has made the decision to just live with it.

I'd bet if ATT or T-mobile didn't have the ability to block wallet on these devices, they wouldn't be allowing it either.

mromero
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Re: Can't block google wallet on nexus devices

with kitkat you no longer need a secure element, »www.androidpolice.com/2013/10/31···karound/

Lone Wolf
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Review The Nexus 5

Let us know more about it please when you buy one.

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csiemers

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White 32GB

Ordered mine and should hopefully be in my hands next week!
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milnoc

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Re: White 32GB

Unfortunately, I ordered it in the 3 to 4 week range. But since I'm pretty busy this month, it's no big deal.

First time I ordered a gadget in white. Everything else has always been black except for a couple of old camcorders. It'll be interesting to see if I can keep it clean, and possibly print my company logo on it.

csiemers

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Re: White 32GB

I've already got a clear back cover for it and I could probably put a picture between the case and the phone, or just leave it.
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Onedollar

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Pageplus replacement

Does anyone know of a prepay plan for this phone that is equivalent to pageplus(vz)? Replacing an old webos prepay phone
ConstantineM

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San Jose, CA

Available on Amazon.com when?

»googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/10/···s-5.html

This still seems to be as shaky a launch as we are all used to with Google now.

They ran out of supply, but you can finally at least pre-order for shipment in 2-3 or 3-4 weeks, depending on the model, right on their web-site.

However, they've also explicitly announced that they're making it available on Amazon.com, which has free shipping etc.

Well, I want to pre-order now, but there's no item on Amazon.com that could be pre-ordered!
bunklung

join:2002-07-13
Northampton, MA

Band 4

By design the snapdragon supports band 13. At the software or driver level band 13 is disabled. Band 13 is Verizon C block LTE network.

However band 4 is enabled. So someone who has band 4 vzw enabled tower (rare) can try a Sim swap. Band 4 is AWS 1700 LTE for Verizon and TMO.

Since this phone works on Sprint and has CDMA support the phone is capable of working with voice service in band 0 or 1 on Verizon. It will clearly work for roaming.

So I am certain some clever XDA member with get band 4 working with voice. Band 13 would be a stretch.

Just my opinion.