Google Unveils White Space Broadband Trial In Ohio Hospital trial got one-year experimental FCC license Wednesday Sep 15 2010 09:35 EDT As we've been noting all week, with the FCC poised to craft new white space broadband rules on September 23, the sales pitch for the technology has reached a fevered pitch this week, with the FCC talking up the technology as a cornerstone of our broadband plan, and Microsoft showcasing a campus-wide white space network. Google has now posted an entry to their blog announcing they've been conducting a white space broadband trial in a hospital in Logan, Ohio, with an experimental one-year license granted by the FCC. Says Google: quote: First responder vehicles, hospital grounds as well as the health department are being equipped with high-speed wireless Internet access. Additionally, the hospital is using the network to manage its outdoor video surveillance system. To prevent interference with other signals, the network is using Spectrum Bridge's real-time TV white spaces database (to determine TV white spaces availability at any location, check out Spectrum Bridge's free search tool.)
White space technology takes the unlicensed and partially vacated spectrum created by the shift to digital television to create a new wireless broadband delivery system that can operate at significant range and through walls. While hyped as the greatest thing since sliced bread by the FCC and a coalition of companies (Dell, HP, Google, Microsoft), the technology has seen very slow traction over the last two years. |
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The devil is in the detailsAccoridng to Tvfool Logan, Oh is the middle of a OTA dead zone. | |
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2010-Sep-15 9:29 am
Re: The devil is in the detailsI'm sure that wasn't well planned by Google and the FCC. It'll be interesting to see what conclusions are drawn from this test and how they might be extrapolated to areas with more congested spectrum. | |
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Re: The devil is in the detailsAre you sure?
Every major system implementation I have been in has started at a place in the company that would probably work with little issues and slowly expanded out to parts that would see more and possibly bigger issues.
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Re: The devil is in the detailsThat's why I stated it'll be interested to see the conclusions. Considering the FCC's 23 Sep vote, it seems to me that further "real" testing should've been conducted sooner for something that has potential to greatly affect existing services and spectrum allocations. | |
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that's exactly how I learned to swim. | |
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This is either a real-world test, or it isn't. The last 2 TV Band Device tests (Microsoft doesn't count) have been in the Appalachian mountains, in terrain shielded dead zones. Proves nothing.
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dead zoneI live just 15 miles NW of Logan, it's an absolute deadzone for nearly all wireless signals unless your right on top of towers, it's very hilly, heavily forested and has one main highway (33) running through it which is the only decent spot for wireless coverage. GOOD LUCK | |
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OTA Dead Zone = Perfect environment for trialing a new techA dead zone is a great place to start a trial of a new technology that uses this spectrum. Get the scalability bugs out in a somewhat pure environment and then figure out a way to deal with the interference issues that will come in a more crowded RF environment. | |
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Re: OTA Dead Zone = Perfect environment for trialing a new techsaid by plunkman:A dead zone is a great place to start a trial of a new technology that uses this spectrum. One of the major debates with this technology is if it can accurately sense, and account for, transmissions in licensed frequency bands. If no/few transmissions exist, how can the technology's ability to handle interference accurately be tested? | |
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They could've done all that in a shielded indoors environment. Reinforced concrete tilt-up buildings with foil in the ceiling block UHF really well. A poured concrete structure will stop the TV band energy as well.
How will a device, built into a laptop, be sensitive enough to detect the TV station that you need a rooftop antenna to see? It's impossible.
This is BS. Google knows it, too. | |
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FCC considering selling to cell providers chs 14 -51 as wellWhite Space spectrum is supposed to be using unused TV channels 2 - 51. Based on the Spectrum Bridge search tool, at my house there are only 2 channels not being used already ch 2 and 40. And only 40 can be used for portable devices. Now the FCC is discussing selling off channels 14-51 as well to cell providers, leaving only 2-13 for White Space. » forums.highdefdigest.com ··· off.htmlThis whole White Space plan sounds like an abortion in the making. | |
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Re: FCC considering selling to cell providers chs 14 -51 as wellsaid by FFH5:White Space spectrum is supposed to be using unused TV channels 2 - 51. Based on the Spectrum Bridge search tool, at my house there are only 2 channels not being used already ch 2 and 40. And only 40 can be used for portable devices. Now the FCC is discussing selling off channels 14-51 as well to cell providers, leaving only 2-13 for White Space. » forums.highdefdigest.com ··· off.htmlThis whole White Space plan sounds like an abortion in the making. If you don't like it, it must be a good idea. | |
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Spectrum Bridge suggests that I've got two vacant channels available at my house too, both of which are over channel 20. And I agree, that as the FCC continues reclaiming spectrum from TV broadcasters for more effective use, such as mobile wireless communication devices, this white space effort becomes much less viable...or necessary. | |
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Re: FCC considering selling to cell providers chs 14 -51 as wellsaid by openbox9:Spectrum Bridge suggests that I've got two vacant channels available at my house too, both of which are over channel 20. And of course that site UNDERCOUNTS the number of channels in my area thus increasing the potential of some moron using a frequency being used for DTV. | |
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